Outside the box: a different view on roulette numbers

[MoneyT101]

If we do this for all possible number groups we get a "number systems" that is random and similar to what we are used to. I you would only use this number set, you would not see any difference with roulette numbers spun.

So what is the fun part?
Every set of random numbers can be used to create another set of random numbers BUT the sets themselves are related!

How? For example: when we have a repeat in the first set on the straights, in the second set, this will occur in 99.7% of the cases on "low". Or, even stricter: a repeat on straights in one system will will occur in the second system for 99.99994% on the first two dozens.

try it yourself, play with it!

Fun isn't it?

rrbb

So from my understanding

1.If we only use the set created we will not see a difference

2.The sets created are related

3.A repeat on a regular will happen 99% on the first half of the created table

We don't know when the repeat will happen but we do know which numbers will repeat if and when a repeat happens.


How do we solve the when?

Or

How do we avoid the losses and get more wins?

[Drazen]

How do we solve the when?

Or

How do we avoid the losses and get more wins?

If I would had to pick one question, I would go with 2nd.

[Taotie]

We don't know when the repeat will happen but we do know which numbers will repeat if and when a repeat happens.


How do we solve the when?

Or

How do we avoid the losses and get more wins?

As for the when, I wouldn't wait around for repeats in the first place.

You will never get more wins than you deserve, and as for the losses I would say they are unavoidable So use sensible MM,

[3Nine]

Sorry, Money, I'm struggling with the best way to present this as it's intentionally confusing.  Plus, there are still members lurking that I'm not a big fan of (for obvious reasons). 

[MoneyT101]

I understand...

I haven't had time to look into it further.  But soon I will.

How is everyone else doing with this one?

[Priyanka]

We don't know when the repeat will happen but we do know which numbers will repeat if and when a repeat happens.

From what you have written, the way i read it is slightly different. We do know 99.xxxx% of the time when the repeat will happen, but we dont know which exact spin it happens. And I dont think anyone can predict that mathematically.

How do we solve the when?
Or
How do we avoid the losses and get more wins?

Now that we have solved when, avoiding losses and getting more wins is a puzzle everyone of us would love to solve, but is eluding us.

Instead of trying same things again and again may be we can try different things. I am trying a game where i use three streams. ECs, lines and streets. While EC repeat happening in the "low" as per your definition is only 50%, as we use lesser and lesser numbers like lines and streets, this percentage keeps increasing. 

This game am referring to can be played in few simple steps using this information you have given. I am not sure whether it will give an advantage or not, but definitely can help think in  a slightly different way.

1. Use three streams EC, lines, streets for the spins from roulette and maintain them in parallel.
2. Try keeping these streams unique all the time with no repeats. Say for example if spins, 27, 24, 30, 2 and 4 appears in that order, our EC stream will have 1 element, line stream will have 1 element and street stream will have 2 elements.
3. Try removing "high" elements as per your definition. Again if we have spins 20, 24, 30, 18, 2. Then our EC stream will have 1 element, line stream will have 3 elements and street stream will have 5 elements. Line stream only has 3 elements even though there are 4 uniques appearing one after other because to keep "low" elements only we can only have 3 elements in that stream at any point in time.
4. Place your bet only on streets that appears in all the three streams. No waiting, no looking for events, keep betting continuously. It is a process as someone mentioned.

Example from yesterdays West spiel casino spins.

27
15 - Street 25-27
8 - street 25-27, 13-15
23 - 13-15, 7-9
6 - 13-15, 7-9, 22-24
30 - 7-9, 22-24, 4-6
2 - 22-24, 4-6, 25-27, 28-30

and so on..... It goes deep in red in flat bet before the sessions ends in +21.

And before anyone jumps in "No. There is no change in odds of next spin". Just an idea based on what 3Nine posted.

[Priyanka]

Try keeping these streams unique all the time with no repeats. Say for example if spins, 27, 24, 30, 2 and 4 appears in that order, our EC stream will have 1 element, line stream will have 1 element and street stream will have 2 elements.

Hmm. Street stream will have 5 elements

[3Nine]

What?

[MoneyT101]

1. Use three streams EC, lines, streets for the spins from roulette and maintain them in parallel.
2. Try keeping these streams unique all the time with no repeats. Say for example if spins, 27, 24, 30, 2 and 4 appears in that order, our EC stream will have 1 element, line stream will have 1 element and street stream will have 2 elements.
3. Try removing "high" elements as per your definition. Again if we have spins 20, 24, 30, 18, 2. Then our EC stream will have 1 element, line stream will have 3 elements and street stream will have 5 elements. Line stream only has 3 elements even though there are 4 uniques appearing one after other because to keep "low" elements only we can only have 3 elements in that stream at any point in time.
4. Place your bet only on streets that appears in all the three streams. No waiting, no looking for events, keep betting continuously. It is a process as someone mentioned.

Example from yesterdays West spiel casino spins.

27
15 - Street 25-27
8 - street 25-27, 13-15
23 - 13-15, 7-9
6 - 13-15, 7-9, 22-24
30 - 7-9, 22-24, 4-6
2 - 22-24, 4-6, 25-27, 28-30

and so on..... It goes deep in red in flat bet before the sessions ends in +21.

And before anyone jumps in "No. There is no change in odds of next spin". Just an idea based on what 3Nine posted.

Ok I see what you mean and I understand how to set it up. 

I will look into it tonight, thank you.

[Drazen]

Thank you Priyanka!

[psimoes]

Is this all about reintrepreting past history in a hope to add an offset that will somehow resonate with the future random outcomes?

If so, why not translate to another base? I recommend base 9:

01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36

translate to

01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09
11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29
31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39

or

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1
3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 2
4 5 6 7 8 9 1 2 3

So for ex. 1=1, 15=7, 23=7, 18=1, etc.
New numbers have apparently nothing in common with the old ones, but the connection is there.

[psimoes]

Betting last two columns.
1, 4, 7 are Column A
2, 5, 8 are Column B
3, 6, 9 are Column C

24 W
0  L
7  L
33 L
22 W
2  L
19 L
5  W
7  L
3  W
23 W
30 W
33 W
6  W
30 W
33 W
28 W
-- -- --
24 W
21 W
11 L
35 L
13 L
0  L
17 W
14 W
26 W
23 L
16 W
26 W
33 L
7  W
9  W
10 L
-- -- --
6  W
23 W
11 L
20 L
27 W
0  L
25 W
3  W
6  W
24 W
23 W
19 L
34 W
13 W
35 W
31 W
-- -- --
11 W
5  L
18 W
23 W
26 W
27 L
10 W
30 L
33 W
19 L
7  L
7  W
29 W
1  W
13 W
0  L

[denzie]

Ah matrix style.... Where Lanky at with his crap. There was a time I actually believed in it. Anyway good luck 

[praline]

why not translate to another base?

Why not try to understand the importance of this topic?

[psimoes]

@ Denzie,

Thanks, but it´s not a matrix. The numbers are just placed that way to more easily locate the respective counterparts. There´s no relation between the horizontal and vertical lines. Not that it matters much. Past spins are past spins. It´s only good for looking like you´re following your gut when in reality you´re using a betting method. Not that it matters much.

We use base 10 because we were born with ten fingers. Some tribe in Papua New Guinea only count up to 10. Higher than 10, like "How many birds are on that tree?" they simply say  "LOTS".

Reality doesn´t change if we represent it using another base. With base 3 for ex. 4, 5, 6, 7 and so on are not used.

1 2 3 11 12 13 21 22 23 31 32 33 111 112 113 121 122 123 131 132 133 211 212 213 221 222 223 231 232 233 311 312 313 321 322 323 331 332 333 1111 1112 1113 1121 1122 1123 and so on.
Number 21 for example would therefore be represented by 133. To use it on roulette I´d simply add 1+3+3=7, but you can use in a different way. If 133, 3 is dominant, so each time 21 shows up,  bet Dozen 3 or Column C. If 18 shows up, represented by 123, then No Bet...