Outside the box: a different view on roulette numbers

[3Nine]

Check out this set!

[MoneyT101]

Check out this set!

I'm having a hard time understanding what you want to show us with this post.

Tracking regular lines that can happen once in a while also.

Position 6 was hot in this case

[3Nine]

I'm having a hard time understanding what you want to show us with this post.

Just a cool sample.  Nothing to see.

[3Nine]

rrbb:

I hope you played with Nicksme excel. If so, you would have noticed that sometimes it is a tie: both R and B would lead to an AP. in around 12% of the cases this happens.

There are now two options: either we lower the number of L's in the bets that we would place make (no tie),

OR we create a second stream on which we would bet in case of a tie (or maybe, we ONLY bet when we have a tie on the first stream).

Hint: start playing around with a new "stream":
if two subsequent colors are identical, we give it the value "1". Otherwise we give it the value "2". This is an half again!

Now we apply VdW sequence on this new stream, we ONLY bet when the first stream has a tie, and when the second stream would indicate we should bet (so no tie on the second stream, but with the possibility of an AP).

I leave the details to you. Do you notice anything???

[Nickmsi]

"rrbb:

I hope you played with Nicksme excel. If so, you would have noticed that sometimes it is a tie: both R and B would lead to an AP. in around 12% of the cases this happens.

There are now two options: either we lower the number of L's in the bets that we would place make (no tie),

OR we create a second stream on which we would bet in case of a tie (or maybe, we ONLY bet when we have a tie on the first stream).

Hint: start playing around with a new "stream":
if two subsequent colors are identical, we give it the value "1". Otherwise we give it the value "2". This is an half again!

Now we apply VdW sequence on this new stream, we ONLY bet when the first stream has a tie, and when the second stream would indicate we should bet (so no tie on the second stream, but with the possibility of an AP).

I leave the details to you. Do you notice anything???"


Here is another similar way to play VDW with multiple streams.  Use 3 streams as follows:

Stream #1: Black, bet any Black AP.

Stream #2: Red, if no Black AP then bet any Red AP

Stream # 3: Different or Same, if no Black or Red AP or if a mutual Bet, then bet D or S.

Cheers
Nick

[cht]

Hi guys, I did check out VdW quite a bit. I use this excel sheet to try various things out. Now that I know more about roulette I thought it's a waste anyway so it be good to share this maybe someone might find good use to improve their system betting. I also have one done for bacs, shout out if you want it. Good luck !

[3Nine]

"rrbb:

I hope you played with Nicksme excel. If so, you would have noticed that sometimes it is a tie: both R and B would lead to an AP. in around 12% of the cases this happens.

There are now two options: either we lower the number of L's in the bets that we would place make (no tie),

OR we create a second stream on which we would bet in case of a tie (or maybe, we ONLY bet when we have a tie on the first stream).

Hint: start playing around with a new "stream":
if two subsequent colors are identical, we give it the value "1". Otherwise we give it the value "2". This is an half again!

Now we apply VdW sequence on this new stream, we ONLY bet when the first stream has a tie, and when the second stream would indicate we should bet (so no tie on the second stream, but with the possibility of an AP).

I leave the details to you. Do you notice anything???"


Here is another similar way to play VDW with multiple streams.  Use 3 streams as follows:

Stream #1: Black, bet any Black AP.

Stream #2: Red, if no Black AP then bet any Red AP

Stream # 3: Different or Same, if no Black or Red AP or if a mutual Bet, then bet D or S.

Cheers
Nick

Nice one, Nick.   My guess is most will think it's too much work

[3Nine]

A 'PROCESS' is NOT an 'EVENT', but CONTINUALLY happens. 

Sound familiar?

[3Nine]

Now that we have solved when, avoiding losses and getting more wins is a puzzle everyone of us would love to solve, but is eluding us.

This one is funny. 

[3Nine]

Most of the time the roulette line repeat happens on the low derived straights. 

[3Nine]

I wonder how we can use the ordinality here?  Any ideas? 

[Priyanka]

3Nine - the whole post started with ordinality or ordinal numbers. They are nothing but the position of spins.  The second stream that you created - “derived stream” - is the ordinal set. 

The term low derived straight, low derived lines is a form of using the ordinality. If it is unclear I can explain with an example.

[MoneyT101]

3Nine - the whole post started with ordinality or ordinal numbers. They are nothing but the position of spins.  The second stream that you created - “derived stream” - is the ordinal set. 

The term low derived straight, low derived lines is a form of using the ordinality. If it is unclear I can explain with an example.

Please provide an example...

Maybe it would shed some light on how to combine the facts( repeats happen on low and It's dependent on stream 1)

[Priyanka]

Please provide an example...

Maybe it would shed some light on how to combine the facts( repeats happen on low and It's dependent on stream 1)

I will give an example using double streets in creating ordinal set.

Consider the following 6 spins.
31,31,25,22,34,33

The double streets for this will be
6,6,5,4,6,6

However the ordinal stream considering we start with double streets 123456 will be
6,1,6,6,3,1

Now look at where the original double streets has repeated with numbers in ordinal stream - 1, 3 and 1.  If we take 6 double streets then all of them are low numbers with high numbers being 4,5 and 6. 

That example should clarify ordinal numbers and why repeats in original stream will happen statistically in the low number in their ordinal stream.  As you go up and up like streets, splits and straights the probability of this occurring increases. 

However as always the big question and funny old puzzle is how to apply this while playing. 

[MoneyT101]

However as always the big question and funny old puzzle is how to apply this while playing. 

Parallel game with a different set on same number group 🤔

Based on the tracking the parallel game should have the same outcome on the low but with different numbers