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Outside the box: a different view on roulette numbers

Started by rrbb, May 30, 08:46 AM 2016

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MoneyT101

Quote from: praline on Oct 30, 02:18 PM 2017
This one must be correct... with a little tweak :xd:
1 million spins 226 units of profit  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
And it goes directly to my collection of winning systems. The collection is now expanded from 0 to 1... what a great achievement after 3 years of rx, readings and writings with testings...LOL

Looks good to me! Heading in the right track.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

MoneyT101

So I went back through all the ideas and some notes I made.  I came across some very interesting data

I kept creating methods and as soon as I saw to many losses I would give it up. Until today!!! 

Now this out of the box method showed the repeat idea

Pri showed the idea of not waiting for a repeat but use the information continuos.

If you create something that losses don't be afraid to look into the opposite bet.  You might just have a winner 😱🎁
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

cht

I did work to compare VdW with repeaters and VB, I can't find the potential to be even close to the latter two. Praline's 226 from a million spins is pathetic, not taking a knock just stating it as it is. Not too far off from Nickmsi earlier data which says that variance extremes is limited. Then what.....?

Years has gone by with plenty of hype about non-random play, seriously anybody can post real profitable edge from this ? I doubt.....

praline

Quote from: cht on Oct 31, 11:30 PM 2017Praline's 226 from a million spins is pathetic
Completely agree with you, it will took two years of 24 hours play to earn those 200 units. 😁
Quote from: cht on Oct 31, 11:30 PM 2017seriously anybody can post real profitable edge from this ?
Why should somebody post something profitable? Nobody want to easily share the Hg, because of years spent to discover it with hard work and sacrificing life and time you could spend with family and friends.
However these sacrifices are the only way to protect the Hg.
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

MoneyT101

Quote from: praline on Nov 01, 07:05 AM 2017
Completely agree with you, it will took two years of 24 hours play to earn those 200 units.

Maybe there is a way to play as if your playing more spins!

Roulette is random.  You can take spin 1 and 9 and 17 and make a game!

You can even play regular spin 1 and 2 and 3 and create a different game with the same data.

Do you really have to wait 1 million spins?  Or can you create different games using the same data?

Think about it
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

praline

The hard work is not appreciated this days!
You need to be a social engineer to earn your holly grail,  you need to LIE, you need to forget about your dignity, and just follow what an "elected" has to say. I've been followed by one of those, he always said " you are so fun"ing close to the solution, you are so fun"ing smart, you will definitely find it"...
Unfortunately I didn't received all those tips and answers like maestro and 3nine, and I have to find  by myself the solution.
And now, that I'm on this stage, I want to ask!
How You, priyanka and reddwarf, decided who deserve to have a possibility to find an answer? How you select people who can change their point of view? Who are you to decide which of us is better and who really want to change this world...???
Priyanka and Rrbb, for my taste, you are Not so smart as you think, or at least not so generous ! You have shared your knowledge with an awful people like maestro that can't write on forum without offending anyone, or 39  that even created the group to control and mislead people who really want to "understand" and not just to accept what other have discovered.
This little forum is just a microscopic image of the world.. The "know-how" people are sharing their knowledge with cannibals, while others are betting black after 7 red.
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

praline

And again I can't rate my own post. But I'm proud of it
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

ignatus

Quote from: praline on Nov 01, 08:25 PM 2017
And again I can't rate my own post. But I'm proud of it

Yes? For those who have not found the "grail" i don't believe there is such a thing, as a "grail"...all systems/progressions WILL lose in the End, it's just a question of time, WHEN it will happen. So? What can we do? Find a DECENT betselection,......and find a DECENT progression. (Because Flatbet will also lose, sooner or later!!) Greed will kill you,.. you can have a "happy streak", for some time, and you never think it's going to End? Guess what, you better take that money and run, now, when do we run? STOPLOSS & WINGOAL IS ESSENTIAL. Knowing when to Quit when you're ahead of the game. There is No other way??, you cannot play Endlessly and hope to win forever,... (That's what i "know").
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

cht

Quote from: praline on Nov 01, 08:22 PM 2017
The hard work is not appreciated this days!
You need to be a social engineer to earn your holly grail,  you need to LIE, you need to forget about your dignity, and just follow what an "elected" has to say. I've been followed by one of those, he always said " you are so fun"ing close to the solution, you are so fun"ing smart, you will definitely find it"...
Unfortunately I didn't received all those tips and answers like maestro and 3nine, and I have to find  by myself the solution.
And now, that I'm on this stage, I want to ask!
How You, priyanka and reddwarf, decided who deserve to have a possibility to find an answer? How you select people who can change their point of view? Who are you to decide which of us is better and who really want to change this world...???
Priyanka and Rrbb, for my taste, you are Not so smart as you think, or at least not so generous ! You have shared your knowledge with an awful people like maestro that can't write on forum without offending anyone, or 39  that even created the group to control and mislead people who really want to "understand" and not just to accept what other have discovered.
This little forum is just a microscopic image of the world.. The "know-how" people are sharing their knowledge with cannibals, while others are betting black after 7 red.
hahaha a burst of frustration. I 'Like' your post that came 2 yrs late.  :lol:

No worries, you didn't miss anything that I can tell you. Move on from this topic that's my advice do you a lot of good. The casinos couldn't care less of this kind of stuff, technologically they're so way ahead to take care of this minor blip. There're bigger battles to fight definitely not here. Read this to get you up to speed what we're actually dealing with.

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Drazen

Quote from: praline on Nov 01, 08:22 PM 2017
The hard work is not appreciated this days!
You need to be a social engineer to earn your holly grail,  you need to LIE, you need to forget about your dignity, and just follow what an "elected" has to say. I've been followed by one of those, he always said " you are so fun"ing close to the solution, you are so fun"ing smart, you will definitely find it"...
Unfortunately I didn't received all those tips and answers like maestro and 3nine, and I have to find  by myself the solution.
And now, that I'm on this stage, I want to ask!
How You, priyanka and reddwarf, decided who deserve to have a possibility to find an answer? How you select people who can change their point of view? Who are you to decide which of us is better and who really want to change this world...???
Priyanka and Rrbb, for my taste, you are Not so smart as you think, or at least not so generous ! You have shared your knowledge with an awful people like maestro that can't write on forum without offending anyone, or 39  that even created the group to control and mislead people who really want to "understand" and not just to accept what other have discovered.
This little forum is just a microscopic image of the world.. The "know-how" people are sharing their knowledge with cannibals, while others are betting black after 7 red.

I am quite sad to read this my friend. But I can understand where is this coming from.

In this voyage I found myself a HG of life I think. Do I need a roulette one then? Good question. Being ok with anything that hits you and trying to make difference wherever you can will make you happy. Not money from roulette no matter for what purpose you might use it... It sounds trivial but it is true.

I think you are wrong when you are estimating efforts vs rewards. Look at Ignatus or Falklor for example. Honestly, for their efforts I think they deserve what they are looking for. But yet, they are light years away....

There is a quote on which I really hooked up: "In the end you might or might not get it". And it seems I took it for granted.

Be well Pavlo

Drazen

maestro

QuoteUnfortunately I didn't received all those tips and answers like maestro


i told you before no one gave me any tips or whatsoever
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

maestro

Quotewith an awful people like maestro that can't write on forum without offending anyone

oh i did not realize this so please everyone accept my deepest apologies from myself for me being such a dickhead and asshole
Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

Badger

I think it's important to remember that roulette is a random game.
Out of 37 spins, 24 numbers hit on average leaving 13 unhit.
These unhits express themselves as repeaters. BUT it is important to remember that
for a number to become a repeater, it must first hit once.
So you need to take a step back and let repeaters help you WHERE to bet.
Then zoom in and bet where the most chance of success lies within the repeats.

I think that is the direction we should be looking at.
The biggest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance ; it is the illusion of knowledge.
Daniel J Boorstin.

cht

Repeaters is most definitely the way to go - Hit to repeat1.

I posted about it earlier. How I record down spin results filtered with AP means the following -
1. Choose the wheel - wheel bias
2. Choose the dealer - dealer signature
3. choose the spin - visual ballistic

The last one is the tedious one. You wait for the correct spin you want and then record down the spin result. 2-3 hrs of 200+ spins for 33 spin results, then start flat bet on clusters(normally 7-8numbers) from spin34 to spin 40 based on correct spin pt3. Easily double your br each session.

The result is shown below. No special secrets. About AP, google read about the subject and practice with your eyes till they get twisted, says denzie.  :thumbsup: That's the key skill really. And know when the casino is out to screw you.  :twisted:

The casino will take action against you if you play like I do, I posted on another thread. :o

So better to play this at your local b&m casino. It's not difficult to do the analysis with pen and paper instead of excel sheet. :thumbsup:

MoneyT101

Quote from: praline on Nov 01, 08:22 PM 2017
The hard work is not appreciated this days!

Unfortunately I didn't received all those tips and answers like maestro and 3nine, and I have to find  by myself the solution.

And now, that I'm on this stage, I want to ask!
How You, priyanka and reddwarf, decided who deserve to have a possibility to find an answer? How you select people who can change their point of view? Who are you to decide which of us is better and who really want to change this world...???

This little forum is just a microscopic image of the world.. The "know-how" people are sharing their knowledge with cannibals, while others are betting black after 7 red.

Praline, it's not their fault.  It's hard to tell ppls motives and intentions.  Also they can't speak to every single person that wants to learn.

But yes 3nine is deceitful!  He doesn't have an HG, he just manipulated ppl to share information with him so he can try to figure it out.  I'm sure redd and Pri caught on to that. 

I do understand your frustration!  I hope your hard work pays off and you find what your looking for.

I found something that works using the ideas but it's not to my liking yet.  It wins flatbet playing every spin, but betting on to many numbers.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

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