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Why do we win, and Why do we lose....

Started by SimonZed1, Jun 19, 08:18 AM 2016

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RouletteGhost

Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 01:32 PM 2016
This why you irrelevant.

Hopefully one day the parasite leaves its host.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

dimsun

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 01:32 PM 2016
This is just a distraction. It's not useful information. It's like teaching somebody that to play effective tennis you need a racket and a tennis ball. A soccer ball won't do because it can't bounce high enough. OK great - thank you wise one! At least with Priyanka she gave us Cycles and VdW - far more useful tools and far more relevant. Roulette is a technical game, you know? This advice is more about when to step away from a losing game of Patball: as soon as somebody beats you with a lowcut then step away from that game immediately otherwise you will dig yourself a bigger hole that you can't get out of.

Need learn not lose before learn win. How many time you winning then end loser?

Like said can lead horse water not make drink.

falkor2k15

Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 01:39 PM 2016
Need learn not lose before learn win. How many time you winning then end loser?

Like said can lead horse water not make drink.
It has a lot to do with the payout odds vs. probability of winning I reckon. If we bet sleepers over repeaters then we lose more because we are choosing events that pay worse over time. Winning/Losing streaks are a product of that: more losing streaks because our events have a negative edge associated with them. Hence we lose more and we have longer losing streaks. Our decisions cannot help us other than to look at a framework like cycles for limiting combinations and knowing when to enter/exit a game based on the flow of repeats.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

MrJ

Quote from: The General on Jul 16, 01:26 PM 2016
Duh!  It's like reading your Pri nonsense.

100% correct General sir.

Falkor said its not useful information but indeed it is. As I have said MANY times, knowing what does not work (or silly reading), how is that not "useful"?

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

falkor2k15

Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 01:47 PM 2016
100% correct General sir.

Falkor said its not useful information but indeed it is. As I have said MANY times, knowing what does not work (or silly reading), how is that not "useful"?

Ken
We don't lose more because we keep playing after the first losing spin. If we have positive edge (predictability wins over payout odds and default bias) then we win more and we win in longer streaks, but since by default we have negative edge from the unfair payouts and house edge then we are guaranteed to lose more and lose in longer streaks regardless of any decisions we make in reaction to a winning/losing situation.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

dimsun

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 01:35 PM 2016
Hopefully one day the parasite leaves its host.

You right. Sometime parasite useful to host. This time not. Smart host purge. 

Irrelevant best ignored.

dimsun

Falkor you play real or simulation always?

RouletteGhost

Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 01:56 PM 2016
You right. Sometime parasite useful to host. This time not. Smart host purge. 

Irrelevant best ignored.

:twisted: :twisted:
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

MrJ

Back to...its not "useful information".

So I post a system... bet on the second column with a "soft" (lol) progression after the 13-18 DS hits. Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.

You happen to love my system, would you say this information is not useful?

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

falkor2k15

Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 01:59 PM 2016
Falkor you play real or simulation always?
It's the same IMO: bias from different dealers average out over time like how random numbers behave from 0 to 36. The Law of the Third and the Law of Large Numbers apply to both real data and a decent RNG like random.org. My simulators use real data anyways.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

dimsun

Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:06 PM 2016
Back to...its not "useful information".

So I post a system... bet on the second column with a "soft" (lol) progression after the 13-18 DS hits. Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.

You happen to love my system, would you say this information is not useful?

Ken

Took long time learn.  System not make loser.

dimsun

Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 01:59 PM 2016
Falkor you play real or simulation always?
Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 02:09 PM 2016
It's the same IMO: bias from different dealers average out over time like how random numbers behave from 0 to 36. The Law of the Third and the Law of Large Numbers apply to both real data and a decent RNG like random.org. My simulators use real data anyways.
Disagree simulation no experience make not real.  Real bring emotion.  That when winner or loser.

RouletteGhost

Least turbo was mature and smart enough to leave.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

MrJ

Looking for an answer to my question.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

MrJ

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 02:15 PM 2016
Least turbo was mature and smart enough to leave.

He'll be back. You should kiss the ground he walks on. Why?

Thats simple....he knows more than you and you should LEARN from the people that KNOW MORE THAN YOU instead of fighting them because your ego is over inflated.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

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