Steve's computers

[denzie]

Hey guys,

Just curious what you guys really think about those computers.

@Steve .... this is done with positive intentions 

My opinion. Yes I am. Only JAA though. The others is really to expensive. I wouldn't pay 80k for it. Just imagine you get busted and they kick you out the casino and throw the computer at your head 

But yes if I lived near Steve I check it out for sure. No doubt.

[Steve]

Denzie:

1. See link:://:.roulettephysics.com/computer-service/
You can get the $80,000 hybrid with virtually no up-front cost. There are "pay as you go" options. And if you lose the computer, replacement cost very little. Its development that cost money, not the equipment.

2. For whoever doesnt believe in it, you've never tested a roulette computer before, have you? You dont have any experience. Maybe Angelos Kavouras bet is for you  But once my free trial computer is released, you can test for yourself and know better. You will see how easily tens of thousands can be made, then you'll know the price is justified.

3. The hybrid is in a different league to other computers. You can only know its capabilities if you see a personal demo. To see "everything" takes about 2 days of demonstrating. Its mostly for high rollers who make very large bets and need to be able to have nothing suspicious on them even if strip searched... not that they'd ever be searched anyway.

4. They are LEGAL in about half of casinos. No broken legs or any of that bullshit. It just doesnt happen. If youre caught, they just do something like call earlier no more bets.

5. There are many peopke who have sweet fa experience with AP or computers, yet think theyre in position to know. People like this everywhere. Its very easy for anyone to find the truth for themselves with no risk. Start with :.roulette-computers.com/free-trial/

[tuddilue]

Do you sell all over the world or how does that work?
- Tuddilue

[Steve]

It makes no difference where you live. Although you may want to research where you intend to play, to ensure its legal. I already know where but i cant give official legal advice.

Its only a matter if time before the game changes too much, and they wont be viable on enough wheels anymore. For now, the casinos know about them but dont fully understand them. Some casinos may have tested less effective versions created by casino consultants, and think they are safe. Its only a matter of time before it all changes. And people unaware will have missed the boat.

Some casinos know better computers that what theyve seen may exist, but they still allow late betting because:

a. allowing late betting means normal players bet and lose more, and
b. there arent enough computer users to cause a big enough problem to call no more bets earlier
c. if any player wins too much with late bets, they can just close bets earlier

Its easy to win thousands without being detected.  Anyway the information is all out there on my sites, and its easy to find the facts, free trial, demo or whatever.

[Steve]

One more thing... normally I detest ignorance. Stupid people who think they know, but really know nothing. In the case of casino staff, their ignorance is a blessing. Many of them just dont really think computers or even ballistic systems like jaa can do real damage. And its their ignorance that makes sure that roulette ap will be alive and well for some time. Change will happen, but it is so slow because of:

1. ignorance and apathy (casino staff think who cares if some players win, and we can stop big winners most of the time, right?)

2. closing bets earlier will lose more revenue for casinos than it saves,

3. changing thousands of wheels that are easily beatable isnt so simple. Only rare designs are what Id consider worthy of being called "sufficiently random" but even they have downsides that lose casinos revenue. We can still beat these ones, but theyre much harder to beat. Still a better edge that MIT card counters.. just not the 50% we're used to.

[Lucky7Red]

Not sure, I will not buy it. It is not possible to beat roulette.

[RFMAXX]

steve...i signed up for the free trial computer you announced some time ago. never got any reply...how is the status? anybody got one? release date?

[Steve]

It is already working but I havent sent everyone access details yet because the server gets overloaded. I upgraded it today. Ill send the rest of the access details probably tomorrow.

[Steve]

All access details have now been emailed. The first video is a mk7 semi-tilted with teflon ball. This is to replicate the perfectly average wheel in modern casinos. I havent checked the edge, but the profit after the test is roughly $8000 (starting with $2000 bankroll).

Sounds great, and it is, but it gets even better with the Hybrid and diamond targeting.

[denzie]

ive been reading again on your websites. I can imagine your tired of answering the same questions. But it are very very very busy websites. Its bit chaos. And a lot of links.

Anyway my focus is on the JAA. Coz of the online feature only. Im sure the Uber and hybrid are much better but its to expensive. Also i wouldnt be qualified/selected for it. So i think JAA would be a good first step into the roulette computers.

About JAA...it predicts before spin release which is what i like. So well yes...im gonna buy one!
The payments are very clear. What i receive is very clear too.The terms and agreement too but i see only 50% of the use of JAA and half price. Thats probably why it cost double to get 100% right?  And as i understand it i get acces to the private forum and the 20 online casinos where i can use the JAA and win ?  That would give me a good start while i search and test other wheels.

Denz

[denzie]

So ive been doing some more research...
About JAA..

They all seem to be happy about it but they all yakking it needs patience and sometimes its difficult.

Now about the time...collecting the spins cant be that difficult right? I can do that from my sofa till i find a wheel that gives a good rate.
Or in a b&m i can collect that with my wife in shifts or whatever. So i dont really understand why that is an issue. Or they need more then just the spins?

About the difficulty factor...whats difficult about it? I mean collect the data...let it run by the software...if its no good then move to another wheel right? Or is there more to it then this?

One last question...if i would prefer to play in a b&m then why would i buy JAA? I mean shouldnt i be better of with one of your roulette computers which gives better accuricy?

Happy to hear from you Steve. I ask it here coz i know some are interested in this.

[Steve]

Denzie, see below:

Does your system work online?

Yes, if the wheel is real and viewed via webcam. You cannot beat all wheels though as explained on this site. Usually you can beat about 35% of them with varying edges with the system. See a video recording of online play with real money at link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=0T5u5UKQ3TE. About a third of players only ever play online as there are over 20 suitable online casinos.

The advantages of online play are that you can play from home, and more easily share data with other players via the player forum. Also you can use automated software to video record all the spins you need, then play them back later at a faster speed to get the data you need. This saves time, so online play is much quicker than real casino play. The disadvantage is you need to use multiple accounts to avoid detection, and some casinos refuse payouts. So you need to carefully consider the reputation of online casinos and your plan of attack.

Although you can do well online, the more serious players tend to focus on real casinos because you can win more without being noticed. And in real casinos, you don't need to worry about payout refusal. I suggest start at online casinos because it's easy to practice, but focus on real casinos to earn larger amounts. The exception is if you use the "hit and run" approach explained below.

Can I earn a living playing online?

Yes and some players do, but it's more difficult than with real casinos because:
There are more players exploiting the online wheels than typical wheels in real casinos. So the online casinos are more sensitive to "suspiciously lucky" winners.
You need multiple accounts linked to real ID and people. You can use accounts from family and friends, or even pay part of winnings to account holders. It isn't usually a problem, but it's much easier to play in real casinos (many players use fake ID without a problem, but consider the legal issues).
Realistically you cannot earn perhaps $200 per day every day, as if it were a 9-5 job because you'll be detected. So playing online is more to supplement your existing incomes where you may win $2500 one week, then the next week earn another $2000, then you withdraw funds and open a new account. But if you played online to earn a living, you are best to apply a "hit and run" approach with larger bets. This is where you identify a predictable wheel and make large bets in the short term, so winnings look more like luck than professional play. This way you may only play once a month, but earn a larger sum. Hear the audio testimonial of one player that won $80,000 online: link:://:.roulettephysics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Testimonial6ADGermany.wma

Also see link:://:.roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy-card/ for suggested strategies for playing online, but much more detail is provided in the private forum for players only. Remember the problem isn't so much beating the wheels. It's avoiding detection.

Which online casinos are best to play at?

It changes frequently. A casino can have a bad wheel one week, then after re-calibration another week, it may be very profitable. The best way to know is to test for yourself, and share information with other online players via the player forum. But keep in mind that sharing is a "two-way" thing. I can tell you which casinos many players have most success with, but you still need to evaluate the wheels yourself for updated assessments.


How can I know if this will be too difficult for me?

The system and processes are designed with beginners in mind. Most players find it easy to learn and use, but some (about 5% of players) find the system difficult. Below are the main reasons these players found the system difficult:

a. Long hours in the casino too tedious: Unfortunately most methods of making money are tedious and take time. You can decide for yourself if you are prepared to dedicate the time.

b. Health conditions such as poor eyesight, or poor concentration: These usually only affect players aged over 60.

c. Cannot understand the instructions: The instructions are regularly updated to make them as clear as possible. But some people expect to become experts overnight.

Some people expect to win a fortune without time and effort. It doesn't work like that. Compared to most systems that lose anyway, professional play can be hard work that doesn't always pay off. But when it does pay off, it is far better than any 9-5 job. You need to be prepared for the occasional frustration and remain patient, especially while you're still learning.

I've made everything as simple as possible. There are only 3 parts you need:

Part 1: The main training video (about 20 minutes long and explains almost everything)

Part 2: The knowledgebase (for various questions & answers),

Part 3: The checklist (to make sure you're doing everything needed).

You don't need to read anything else including the forum which has years of old posts. And if you have any questions, you can ask questions via the help desk.

Most players don't find anything particularly difficult. But difficulty is a matter of opinion. And you won't know how easy the system is until you try it for yourself. So help you determine how easy you'll find it without purchasing, I suggest learn the free visual ballistics system I provide (in the free trial). This method is significantly more difficult to use than the JAA cross reference system. So if you find the visual ballistics system easy enough (to both understand and apply), you'll likely have no problems using the JAA system which is much easier.

[Steve]

In all keep this in mind:

If you are used to the RBBRBR systems, you'll get a shock with advantage play. Systems that work are very different. You need attention to detail and patience. As per my last post, I suggest start with visual ballistics in the free course and proceed only if its your cup of tea. JAA is taking VB a few steps further, but it is all the same physics (ballistics).

[denzie]

So far I still don't see collecting data as a negative issue. Sure you could spend all day collecting and then see the wheel is no good. Well shit happens. Get yourself a beer and try again on another wheel some other time.

About the difficulty. ...if I read correct between the lines we also collect data about dominant diamonds and where the ball land etc... which still isn't a issue. If I hook my laptop on my TV that's easy .

So the terms and agreement....we get access to 50% for half price. That's why we pay double right? 100% for 2500$

So if I start with 1unit bets....how much br is required?  (If use the JAA correctly ).

And is JAA better then the roulette computers including in the package?  (Cuz these are after ball release )

How helpful are the members on the private forum?

Thx for your reply

[Steve]

If you have time and patience, thats a big part sorted.

Really there's nothing difficult about it in the opinion of most players. Its just that the RBRRBR players are accustomed to extremely simplistic approaches. Again AP is very different and needs attention to detail. But again everyone is different, so consider my advice about the free trial and testing.

No the software is bundled with support and I dont separate it from what you receive. The reason I itemize the price is so there is clear legal definition of what you receive. It's something I need to define clearly as a corporation.

The faqs have all the details on bankroll and expectations.

Whether jaa is better than computers depends on the computer and conditions at the wheel. In some conditions, the lite version computer is better (same accuracy as free trial computer) and in other conditions jaa is better. Overall jaa is better than the basic and lite computers (in terms of practicality and all factors considered), but jaa is nowhere near the Uber and Hybrid versions.

Some forum members are very helpful, others are still new and cant offer good advice yet. The majority of active posters are new and still learning for themselves. As players dont need help anymore, then dont bother attending the forum - they're too busy out playing. But there are roughly 10 or so experienced players who are also active at the forum. They dont post much, but are often reading posts and posting when helping someone. But dont rely on other members for support. Get support from the help desk or you may be given incorrect advice that confuses you.