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[Aggelos Aggelos]

Hey Steve i just paid,when i ll have access to the software?

[Steve]

Hi, I manage accounts weekdays so tomorrow. I don't work weekends, I just msg on phone sometimes.

[Aggelos Aggelos]

Ok,i m waiting...

[BellagioOwner]

@Steve
We still need 50 spins per direction for analysis in the JAA trial? I also intend to use it on my account on betfair using the live wheels on the site?

Are there any suggested different sites or betfair and others will also do the job? 

[Steve]

With that version, it's possible to have an edge after the 3rd or so spin. Basically the edge will increase slowly over time, although it will still fluctuate. After 50 or so spins per direction, the edge will likely be reasonable but still increasing. But as the instructions explain, testing over 100, 500 or even 1,000 may not give conclusive results, because even random bets can win over 1,000 spins.

I dont want to advise specific casinos so I'm not accused of being an affiliate. Basically give preference to real wheels with real dealer. If you play an auto wheel, avoid the cammegh slingshot. You can beat maybe 5% of them. It depends on the individual wheel and its settings.

[BellagioOwner]

Hi Steve. Downloaded and installed successfully the OpenVPN and the JAA app on my phone for the JAA Software 5-days trial.

I thought though the procedure of JAA was not like Visual Ballistics that you observe the number under dominant diamond as reference and then input the winning number per spin. As it describes also on the video on your site (link:://:.roulettephysics.com/cross-referencing/  and link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=qB6D7KRqepo )with JAA you simply write down winning numbers (about 50 per direction), you then just login to the software and enter the winning numbers. No observing reference dominant diamonds, no sharp eyes (hard on online live wheel, without full image of the wheel or not so much HD), no clicking on phone sound button per spin etc.

Why does this 1$ JAA Trial that I installed needs procedures of VB techniques (clocking wheel, entering numbers, sharp watching numbers above diamonds as the rotor is still spinning) and not JAA, just entering the winning per direction  spins to the software?


Am I doing something wrong? 

Thanks for any reply

[Steve]

The purpose of the trial is so you can see for yourself what's involved. The trial doesnt include all the instructions and procedures of the full version, but the full version isnt much more complicated. You could just ignore additional procedures and still have success, but that's not the proper way to play. For example, you could play on a wheel without assessing scatter, but its much better to know the scatter before playing. That way you can focus on wheels that are likely best.

The video is just a brief introduction. A more detailed explanation of what's involved is at link:://:.roulettephysics.com/frequently-asked-questions/ - there's lots of information, but for example:



If you want to make it ultra simple, then just skip the scatter reference part. And enter the last winning number as scatter reference. Skip everything except for winning number input. The server automatically tries to find patterns with whatever data you give it. Do I recommend shortcuts? No. The more shortcuts you take, the less data there is to cross reference, and the lower your chance of success.

[Aggelos Aggelos]

I totally agree with BellagioOwner.We need some easier road to do that.Like your website when we want to see if our wheels are beatable we send you our numbers and you send us back how profitable is our wheel.We need something like that to do the job otherwise it s so difficult.I think if you do that all we can pay more than 1$!Thanks.

[Steve]

I can only do what is "possible". Again the more shortcuts you take, the less likely you are to succeed.

Like your website when we want to see if our wheels are beatable we send you our numbers and you send us back how profitable is our wheel.

Yes I already have that. But let's say I responded "yeah your wheel is great, you can easily beat it!". Then how do you know I'm actually telling you the truth? And even if I made such an assessment automated, how can you know it isnt all faked somehow? You cant.

That's why the best proof I can give is just let you test for yourself.

[BellagioOwner]

So. Is the full version of the JAA not using tracking like this trial and like visual ballistics. I though that we could have a trial of the software.

Let me clarify.  All I say is that with not the ease of the full version system,without knowing if the roulette wheel(s) we chose are possibly profitable by any percent (so as to know what to expect and not possible random results as a proof of the edge that we expect per wheel), with having to observe/track more than 50-100 spins per direction for more accurate results (if we have even luckily found a good enough wheel), with all these process to be done online for faster results (due to 5day limit) and without even full clear look at the wheel (due to online) this trial software can't be really counted as good test and trial of the JAA.

Trying to test 3-4 wheels at random to find a good one without indication, with having to observe closely online 50-100+ spins per wheel and to make enough bets (1000s+) after all these so as to know that the software works (profit from real edge)  and it's not just the random profit random fluctuation of 18 bets per spin we DEFINITELY need more than 5 days or a more accurate trial of the software.

I had no intention to make money and millions form the trial of course, but with all these obstacles it cant even be fairly tested which was its purpose.

I purchased it on Sunday and right after I followed the suggestion on my email and gathered past spins from live wheels. Hundreds of them to have them ready. Thought I could enter the first of them per direction on the software and see what it would suggest me to bet for the next of my noted spins. I had not even purpose to play it on real money. Just wanted to test and test and check it on my live wheel past numbers. That would be the clear testing

But having to observe live (so also slow)new spins and diamond references without even having for sure a good wheel, repeat the process 3-4 times for other wheels also and then start using the predictions all these in 5 days. Tough for testing.

I don;t believe you are a scammer Steve. No. Really. I like your approaches and I appreciate the free trials that real scammers won't offer and I trust the laws of physics (aka use of them on your softwares).

But under these conditions I think it can't be conducted a proper test and trial 

[Steve]

The full version includes MORE validations and work. Like for example scatter assessment, because it is not good to take shortcuts. That's just how things are. Again I can only do what's possible. My site provides lots of information on whats involved. If you find the trial JAA too much, then the full version is not for you.

Sure you can test any system over 500 or 1000 spins. But that's not proper testing. You would have known that before the trial anyway.

As the instructions state:

Any meaningful test requires thousands of spins. Most online casinos with real wheels spin twice every minute. So if you test 8 hours each day for 3 days, that’s approximately 3,000 spins to test with. Simply the more testing you do, the more likely you'll see a profit.

Yes you need to test each spin manually, one by one. The full version allows you to just import data to more easily "bulk test", but you still need data from each individual spin. Not just past winning numbers. Again you could use just numbers alone, but then the software has limited information to cross reference.

I suggest just test as many spins as you can. The more the better. Sitting at online wheels for 3 x 8hr shifts is ample for reasonable testing.

The Android version is only designed to be applied at the wheel, so there are no betting charts and its as simple as possible. The downside is you don't have an "import data" feature. But even if you did, like the web version, you'd still need to get data from each spin one by one. And the data you need is more than just past spins. This is explained on the FAQs page.

I always try to make it as clear as possible what's involved, but I rely on everyone carefully reading everything I've written. The FAQs page has the most detailed information.

[denzie]

Ooh I see I'm to late. Was on holiday. So anyone tried the JAA ?

[Steve]

I did. Total Scam.

[denzie]

I did. Total Scam.

Why this ridiculous answer?

[nottophammer]

1st time looked in here and only reason i have, is,i see Denzie posted and was interested to see what he said, as he has mentioned going to try your computer.
So why a total scam, don't mean anything to me as not looked at any of the previous