Anyone?

[falkor2k15]

No one is taking up AP...sitting for hours looking for fluff in frets, looking for biases that are rare.

No one is going to do it.

You clearly dont believe in God. Me neither.

What would you say to someone who kept going into churches, disrupting the sermons and upsetting them by constantly insisting there is no God.

He is correct. There isnt. And they are disillusioned and he is not

But what would you say to him?

Nothing anyone posts is going to work. Its not AP...and peole stop posting because he will be on it, then the post is ruined. 

what he does, and has always done is dull and boring and repetitive. No one is taking up AP soon.

what it actually is....is this



Its a way of showing he is better than people (to himself) and bigging his own ego

Its nothing about showing people the way, or saving them losing money. He has no empathy. Thats clear.

Its about power and control i.e Trolling.

You are a perceptive person so I really dont know why you cant see that.

Or....perhaps I have you wrong and you would tell the guy at the church he is a good guy, and say nothing.

At the end of the day, Steve, what you seem to advocate here is that everyone stops playing systems and moves to bias wheel hunting, or computers.

They arnt going to are they?

So what are all these people been doing here for 6 years?. Probably 10000 members over the years, + 1 computer guy + 1 AP guy

Nice post, Turner! I'll be taking up AP next week, but I just have 2 more tests left to do over at the Random Thoughts topics first:
*Look at biases after increasing the span of a cycles game to 2+ repeats (working on this right now).
*Test a Law of the Third 2D matrix of quad vs. cycle length to see if those biases are the same across all data sets. Usually I get different results, but since it's inside a pigeon hole framework I am hoping for constant ratios. I doubt I will get them though - but worth a try.

I am going to leave the parachute progression test till after AP I've decided.

[Steve]

If he or anyone posts something against rules, report it. Show me exact posts you consider trolling and i can deal with one at a time.

Almost every player loses. Almost every player doesn't use AP. It's unpopular because it's not as convenient as RRBB. Do you hear of system players wining millions? Hard work ap, isn't it? Try making millions 9-5 at a desk. What's harder work?

I'm not a "fan" of AP. Its just that it actually works. The fact that i sell related products may seem like i have a conflict of interest.  But the fact is i don't give a crap if people don't like the idea of AP. Really I'm not desperate to sell anything.

I say all the time fine if you don't like AP. Use another method.  But the only way you can win consistently is if you change the odds of winning.  Do it one way or another. I don't give a crap if you don't like computers etc. Find a NEW way to beat roulette and ill pay you for it.

[Turner]

Nice post, Turner! I'll be taking up AP next week, but I just have 2 more tests left to do over at the Random Thoughts topics first:
*Look at biases after increasing the span of a cycles game to 2+ repeats (working on this right now).
*Test a Law of the Third 2D matrix of quad vs. cycle length to see if those biases are the same across all data sets. Usually I get different results, but since it's inside a pigeon hole framework I am hoping for constant ratios. I doubt I will get them though - but worth a try.

I am going to leave the parachute progression test till after AP I've decided.

Good man 

Your compulsive/obsessive drive is frightening

(in a good way)

I have to admire you...

[Steve]

If selling systems was my focus, id sell something a lot more desirable than AP. But attacking the wheel physics to change the odds is what works. It's the only way to overcome unfair payouts that i know of. I've mentioned the next best option imo is science like precognition. I have news in this area I'll explain later.

But AP is not exclusively vb, bias etc. AP is the casinos term for "anything that works".

Really they're not dumb.  They've been sharing knowledge with other casinos for hundreds of years. And gambling existed before modern casinos.  The discrepancy between odds and payout is really old news to casinos.  But rarely properly understood by players.

[RouletteGhost]

If he or anyone posts something against rules, report it. Show me exact posts you consider trolling and i can deal with one at a time.

Almost every player loses. Almost every player doesn't use AP. It's unpopular because it's not as convenient as RRBB. Do you hear of system players wining millions? Hard work ap, isn't it? Try making millions 9-5 at a desk. What's harder work?

I'm not a "fan" of AP. Its just that it actually works. The fact that i sell related products may seem like i have a conflict of interest.  But the fact is i don't give a crap if people don't like the idea of AP. Really I'm not desperate to sell anything.

I say all the time fine if you don't like AP. Use another method.  But the only way you can win consistently is if you change the odds of winning.  Do it one way or another. I don't give a crap if you don't like computers etc. Find a NEW way to beat roulette and ill pay you for it.

How many houses does the general have?

How much money does he have?

Houses in florida and around the US? Penthouse suites?

How successful is AP for him?

I guaran damn tee you that if he was that successful off AP to the point of riches the last place he would be is HERE and ALL the other roulette forums (some of which he is banned from) trolling and peddling around with us common folk

Id be on my yacht, living large

I call BULL SH!T

Can we get this homunculus off the spotlight please?

[Turner]

If he or anyone posts something against rules, report it. Show me exact posts you consider trolling and i can deal with one at a time.

Find a NEW way to beat roulette and ill pay you for it.

Which isnt arrogant, and is always admitting there may be something you missed. Not a blatant "it wont work"

Actually, he makes me laugh. Hes very sharp...but I dont like to see people get upset

I am laughing and rolling my eyes at the same time....and praying they use a comeback I thought of, but get upset instead

Not everyone sees it as a challenge accepted, and try to out-do it with a better quip.

And...I do see him try and be constructive, but his reputation goes before him....and people cant live in the moment

Too many grudges clogging their brains like plaque

He isnt a troll to me personally, but Im a MOD, and I see he is to many.....and I am left wondering which bits to delete, so its a pain in the arse for me.

[Steve]

Nobody knows much about anyone's wealth here.  But keep in mind a winning system isn't instant millions.  It's just like any business that needs hard work to profit. Maybe he really is a shoe cobbler. Who knows. But i recognize he does have good ap knowledge.

Anyway we all really wasting time here. Im having breakfast.

[Turner]

homunculus

1 applaud for "homunculus" lol

[RouletteGhost]

Nobody knows much about anyone's wealth here.  But keep in mind a winning system isn't instant millions.  It's just like any business that needs hard work to profit. Maybe he really is a shoe cobbler. Who knows. But i recognize he does have good ap knowledge.

Anyway we all really wasting time here. Im having breakfast.

Crazy. Literal dinner time here

[falkor2k15]

Thanks Turner! It's only because Priyanka introduced such fascinating concepts and synthesized many different principles - exclusively published at this forum - albeit spread all over the place. For all the effort he/she put into it I feel it's only right that somebody takes up the baton even if there's no worthy students who have what it takes to fully understand such gnostic teachings (myself included). It's fresh, original and totally fascinating. I think my time is well spent on this... Priyanka did leave us with quite a lot to go on in terms of his/her corpus - even if some parts were not covered as comprehensively as I would have liked. Rather than wait for this to be taken up by a future visitor to RouletteForum.cc in, say, 4 decades time, I think we should do our best to figure this out before the end of the year - whilst Priyanka is still alive following the death of Manrique, his/her predecessor. If I crack this VdW lark then I have the right to call myself a 3rd generation descendant - will be very prestigious indeed(!) - and I liked the movie The Prestige too! All future students will be obliged to watch this movie after I open up the school of Random Thoughts... Steve's theories will eventually die out with him - but AP will be the new accepted champion of the Roulette world - it's only a matter of time. However, my only fear is that we will have a harder time figuring out the identity of Priyanka than that of even Shakespeare so we may never be able to pay homage to our great teacher who began our lineage!

[Turner]

Im having breakfast.

and Im putting off going to bed because the bedroom is like a blast furnace

32C here today....and we dont do air-con in house in England. not for 6 days a year lol

[falkor2k15]

and Im putting off going to bed because the bedroom is like a blast furnace

32C here today....and we dont do air-con in house in England. not for 6 days a year.

Same problem here... great minds think alike! 

[RouletteGhost]

Get a 6 thousand btu bedroom window unit for those 6 days a year

Mine cost 150 dollars....

Refuse to die of heat

[dimsun]

Which isnt arrogant, and is always admitting there may be something you missed. Not a blatant "it wont work"

Actually, he makes me laugh. Hes very sharp...but I dont like to see people get upset

I am laughing and rolling my eyes at the same time....and praying they use a comeback I thought of, but get upset instead

Not everyone sees it as a challenge accepted, and try to out-do it with a better quip.

And...I do see him try and be constructive, but his reputation goes before him....and people cant live in the moment

Too many grudges clogging their brains like plaque

He isnt a troll to me personally, but Im a MOD, and I see he is to many.....and I am left wondering which bits to delete, so its a pain in the arse for me.

Like post.

Him funny, make laugh all time.  Challenge make good comment return.  Failure most.  Me think smite from Germeral. 

[Steve]

Steve's theories will eventually die out with him - but AP will be the new accepted champion of the Roulette world - it's only a matter of time. However, my only fear is that we will have a harder time figuring out the identity of Priyanka than that of even Shakespeare so we may never be able to pay homage to our great teacher who began our lineage!

1. Actually the same laws of physics and logic will still exist long after I'm gone. The discrepancy between odds and payout is not my theory. It is simply "what is".

2. If you are referring to Priyanka's success on the multiplayer game, his success stopped after I identified a cheating loophole, and fixed it. Do I really need to say more?

3. The spread of winners and losers on the multiplayer game is all much the same as in real casinos. A few winning, but vast majority are losing. This is because of the house edge, and the systems being used arent affecting the odds. It's possible the current leaders have something, but 10,000 spins is still short term. If you run a simulation with a random system with RX, you'll find perhaps one in 15 times you'll end up profiting over 10,000 spins. But MOST of the time you'll lose. The math is not complicated. Even if you bet on 30,000 spins, it is easily possible to use an aggressive progression and be lucky with high bets, and lose mostly on smaller bets. It gives the illusion of a working system when really you just made a bunch of independent bets of varying sizes, each with their own odds and payouts.