Anyone?

[Priyanka]

Priyanka, lets say you figured a way to see the logs. You would not be able to edit them. Not even I could edit them because I'd need to synchronize the database with the RAM and running program. If it wasn't done, it would crash the game. It could only be done via SSH which can only be accessed from my ip address, and the programmers ip.

Steve - Am sounding now like a broken record. Things are not always the way you think they are. For argument sake, I dont have to edit the logs, all I need to do is modify the information that is sent in the link: communication protocol that is sent to the server that the logs appear messed up. Not necessary that this is what i have done.

The situation is simple. He cheated and mislead people into believing the winnings were the result of a good system. And to deny it, he's creating new lies.

It is within reason to think what you think. For argument sake, let us assume I have cheated and misled people. It can mean few things. One I am scheming and scamming something. You have a business mind. Tell me who would waste precious family time over years to win a few hundred pounds. Two I am derilic psycho who takes pleasure in misleading people. Well, thats up for argument! It could mean many other things and they will all be up for argument like the second one.

[Steve]

all I need to do is modify the information that is sent in the link: communication protocol that is sent to the server that the logs appear messed up

The loophole had nothing to do with the winning number being predicted. And nothing to do with pc-server communication. It was about being paid for wins on bets you didn't really make.

Steve - I will never post something that proves that I had access to the server. Within reasons, as I dont want a code red moment for me.

I didnt expect you to provide proof that doesnt exist.

- There should be a log entry to confirm whether a person has manually logged in in or not.

Incorrect. The logging process doesnt bother with login. That's a matter for the RAM.

If one is logged in and doesnt place a bet, there should be a log that says the person had not bet and had not won.

There is only one circumstance where a skipped spin would be logged. If you login and do nothing, nothing is logged.

It will log the chip bets that i select. it will log the value of the chip without any prejudice like 25, 100 etc.

Incorrect. You havent seen the log.

You can guess what the log says, but the last guess above makes it clear you dont know exactly what the log contains.

I keep saying Steve - Always things are not always what you think they are. And there is much more in this world than one knows. You can be intelligent only upto a certain extent, there will always be an odd mistake, there will always be a footprint that you cant erase.

I agree, but you are trying to tell me you edited the log to hide how you really won. You could only do that with server access via SSH, which you dont have.

[Priyanka]

Re-reading this, I thought this is not great information. So I thought i would give you few more hints which would be so customised for the system. If the same thing is on splits, it would say something like
1and4  100
31and34 100

if its on streets, it would be something along the lines of
street1 100
street2 100

if its on doublestreet, data logged would have something along the lines of "sixline1", "sixline2" etc.

The intention is to directly respond to your question on the logs and not give the exact content on the logs as I dont want a code red moment for myself. May be this information would help you decide yourselves on what I have said. I care least on what conclusion you arrive at whether I have cheated or not, but I will be glad if you come to a conclusion that "Things are not always what you think they are" irrespective of your perception about cheating.

Because thats the only thing that i want from this conversation and nothing else.

By the way, I messed up with the logs again today. See for yourselves. The intention is to show you that if I have to I can exploit the communication, but I dont have to, as you confirmed that the reason am not playing is because you fixed the loophole.

[Steve]

Priyanka, you specified the data that is sent to the server, not what's in the log file. The data from your pc to server is plain link: traffic anyone can see with the right tools. So far what you said about the log contents is actually incorrect. But with a few more guesses, you might be right.

I havent checked the logs yet, but if what you say is true, you just demonstrated the loophole is not closed, and it is how you achieved a high win rate. It's either that, or you can win on any spin you want. Which is more believable? I'll check the logs for any anomaly later.

[dimsun]

Outsider point view with much computer knowledge. 

You losing argument Steve. Sorry.

[Steve]

Dimsun, you are not admin, you do not see the logs, you dont know if Priyanka's claim is true. I'm admin, I see the logs, and I see his incorrect guess. Your experience with computers makes no difference here. If you really believe his win rate was not the result of cheating, then follow his every word and good luck to you.

[Steve]

Priyanka,

You are saying you won with a great system, and did NOT win by tampering with the data sent from pc to server. You are also saying you could cheat if you wanted, but never had to because of your system.

Is this all correct?

[Azim]

Steve,

Stop wasting time. Unless you really want to go into the online gaming industry.

What Pri, has done is what the poker bots were doing in the early days of online gaming.

The information was available in the link: sockets.

Once again, unless you going to have an online casino with real money, this is a waste of your time and resources.


However, having said that. Go back to the thread when were trying to prove blue_Angels HG. I said the forum does have threads that have the Grail. People have to understand whats happening. Pri, has said the same thing.

Good Luck.  BTW it was nice of you to go through the Multi player app.

[Steve]

Azim, the issue here is not a game. It's that Priyanka led people to believe he won with a great system, when he merely cheated. It's misleading and I don't want people thinking his success had anything to do with his system.

He may or may not have a great system. I dont know enough about it. But there's clear information he cheated. Now he's saying he won with his system but had to change the logs so I wouldn't know how he won. I mean, come on.

Again if anyone has the HG, I'll buy it.

[Azim]

Steve,
I know. Let's face it. You are right. However, if people are going to believe him, people should ask for a live demo. If they don't get one. Its there stupidity to follow and pay.

I am not saying I am a saint. However, I have said, any system seller tells you to play on a certain wheel and were to play(as in physical location not red or black). I would run as far away as I can from that person.

I am not selling my systems or bot's I have them on my leash. I am sure If I have scammed anyone, It would have been out in the open by now.

NO ONE person can change the world. People have to understand. Like I,  have said before you can't teach someone how to think. It's within oneself. To learn how to think.


I can say this as well, sometimes it's hard to find the right way to get from point A to B.

[Azim]

Steve,

Here , I want you to go back and tell everyone, when I first logged into the MultiPlayer.

I could have done the same thing what Pri, has done through link: sockets.

To show people, that his system works. Do everyone a favour,  Open the layout for everyone to see the bets placed by anyone. I know it might be a lot to ask, however, if people don't see bets and see bankroll increasing they will say something.

[Tacwell]

Outsider point view with much computer knowledge.

You losing argument Steve. Sorry.

Actually, gathering by what Prianyka has said, it's rather clear now that he did cheat by manipulating the communication between the game client and server, you don't do that accidentally, and that won't simply give you access to logs stored on the server as he seems to claim. And yes I am a programmer by profession.

[Azim]

Actually, gathering by what Prianyka has said, it's rather clear now that he did cheat by manipulating the communication between the game client and server, you don't do that accidentally, and that won't simply give you access to logs stored on the server as he seems to claim. And yes I am a programmer by profession.

You are right. I didn't want to go into details. However, looks like even Steve  fell for it too thinking Prianka didn't cheat.

[Steve]

Actually i initially didnt think much of his win rate because it was short term.  But when it was repeated, i became suspicious. That's when i investigated ways of cheating. Then eventually we added the logs which showed enough to address a few loopholes. Even turbo found one.  Maybe there are more.  But it's just a game.  I suspected someone might cheat to mislead people, and someone did.

If i find any other loopholes, we'll close them.

Anyway i explained the cheating because i was sick of people following priy like he's some master. Who knows, maybe he is. All i do know is he did cheat.

What he did most wrong was allow people to follow him like deciples based on game winnings. I assume for ego. It's conning people even if there isn't money involved.

Priyanka, if there was a loophole, the right thing to do would help the community and explain it for the benefit of everyone. The game is everyones. I don't run ads on it and never will.

[falkor2k15]

Steve is on point. Listen to JFK...
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpmi7dBet0c