Anyone?

[Priyanka]

i was sick of people following priy like he's some master

LOL. There it goes. At least you have the courage to admit it and I admire it. Turner often questions me, what do you want, you want to teach people or you want people to worship you. My answer has always been the former and not latter. I will answer the questions on multiplayer next, but the concepts I exhibited in the thread were available much more before the multiplayer roulette was there. I was accused of boasting, I said it is fine, I wont. But I will share only as much as am comfortable with. Its upto me what I can share and express my limits of what I can share. If it is against the forum rules, anytime please do tell me so and I will stop it.

I assume for ego.

Sure Steve. As with everyone you are entitled to your opinions and assumptions. I dont argue with that.

You are saying you won with a great system, and did NOT win by tampering with the data sent from pc to server. You are also saying you could cheat if you wanted, but never had to because of your system.Is this all correct?

Steve. I can only say that this is correct. You still havnt shown a proof that I have cheated. You have only shown a proof that the logs show data which is incorrect. I have explained you how to do that by overriding the communication. You and turbo claimed that I have stopped playing because the loophole is closed. I showed you by messing the logs again proving that it is not the case. Now the rest is all your judgement and anyone's judgement. Based on this judgement if you want to call me a cheat, I dont mind. Afterall perception is the truth. 

But remember, it works both ways. I have also proved that you log things. I have explained my side of the argument explaining why I believed you are logging things for your benefit. You say that is not the case. I believe you, but someone else may not. I havnt proved that you use logs for snooping, I have just proved that you log actions and bets.

But with a few more guesses, you might be right.

Steve - I repeat, I dont want a code red moment for me. I dont want to post the log contents exact as it is, but I have shown you enough hints. Now if you dont trust my statement based on what I have shown. You can safely conclude that I dont have access to logs.

you just demonstrated the loophole is not closed, and it is how you achieved a high win rate

Steve. Sometimes you need to think straight. Your statement above is partly correct. I demonstrated the loophole is not closed. But how does it demonstrate that I have achieved a high win rate using this loophole? It is judgement based on some prejudice. As I earlier told, you are entitled to that judgement, but it will remain a judgement contrary to your belief that it is the truth. 

Like I,  have said before you can't teach someone how to think.

While I agree to most of what you have written. This is a point I differ. You can definitely teach someone how to think. I have been taught by my professor, I have been taught by my parents, I have been taught by my heroes. They have taught me how to think by influencing my thought process. Steve believes that I have cheated based on what he has seen and he believes that people are following what I have posted which is built on cheating. While I agree with him on changing the thought process by telling people dont follow cheats, what I dont agree with him is on his claims that I have done that. He forgets that people have been following what i have posted much before multiplayer roulette was available.

[RouletteGhost]

He may or may not have a great system. I dont know enough about it.

Yet you called it just another RRBB system

Without even reading it

Only assuming

Geez steve.

Stop saying you would buy an HG when you make bold claims without even reading a method

[3Nine]

Steve, Do you log PM's, too? 

Thanks, Priyanka - there's a ton of value in your teaching for those willing to do the work. 

As for how to think and being taught to think, just remember you cannot condition the unconditioned mind.  Think about that.

[Steve]

Rg i don't care about his system.  Again i don't know much about it. I'm only explaining his win rate is the result of cheating. Do you think he'll just admit it, or find some excuse to avoid showing he misled people?

He says he won with his hg system, and only manipulated the logs to hide how his system worked. You believe it?

The logs were created only after i suspected him of cheating. He said he manipulated the game because of the logs and wanted to hide goods system. Think about it

He may have manipulated the link: traffic. It's not hard to do with free software. But to manipulate the database only on bets he won on? Ill call it what it is. Bullshit. Why not hide bets on every other spin? Because he only needed a few big wins via cheating. The logs show cheating on relatively few spins. In the short term, he only needed a few huge cheating wins to get the high win rate.

Priyanka i already explained the data you gave about the database was an incorrect guess. Intelligent guess because you based on it user side parameters in the link: traffic, but wrong.

3nine, the database has all PMs. I could read them if i wanted. Am I interested? Not even remotely. Rather than criticising, you should be thanking me for working to create a fair and free game for everyone

[3Nine]

nine, the database has all PMs. I could read them if i wanted. Am I interested? Not even remotely.

Cool. At least you're being honest in this case.

[Priyanka]

manipulated the logs to hide how his system worked

Again interpretations Steve. When did I say that.  I never said I manipulated logs to hide my system. Never.

Steve - Again don't think one minded. I don't have to modify the logs to win. I don't have to manipulate the logs to cheat. They are not related. If I know how to modify the logs through server communication to cheat, why wouldn't I know how to modify the win data without it reflecting in your logs. Think! May be you might get a good answer, might be possible you would get a crooked one.

I could read them if i wanted. Am I interested? Not even remotely

Steve - Think again. You could read them if you wanted. But you don't. Sounds familiar.

[Priyanka]

Steve - I have put all my arguments on the table.

Can we move to something else "if I say I have cheated to win. The winrate is not possible without cheating". Will you and Turbo be content with that? We can move to something else then.

[RouletteGhost]

Seems to me the win rate drew curiousity so he wanted to see how it was acheived.

[3Nine]

3nine, the database has all PMs. I could read them if i wanted. Am I interested? Not even remotely. Rather than criticising, you should be thanking me for working to create a fair and free game for everyone

Really?  If you want me to criticize, I will, and you will be exposed further.  Keep modifying your replies AFTER the responses, too.  You're a joke, man. Good luck to you - I know you don't need it though, right?  

[Azim]

While I agree to most of what you have written. This is a point I differ. You can definitely teach someone how to think. I have been taught by my professor, I have been taught by my parents, I have been taught by my heroes. They have taught me how to think by influencing my thought process. Steve believes that I have cheated based on what he has seen and he believes that people are following what I have posted which is built on cheating. While I agree with him on changing the thought process by telling people dont follow cheats, what I dont agree with him is on his claims that I have done that. He forgets that people have been following what i have posted much before multiplayer roulette was available.

Again interpretations Steve. When did I say that.  I never said I manipulated logs to hide my system. Never.

Steve - Again don't think one minded. I don't have to modify the logs to win. I don't have to manipulate the logs to cheat. They are not related. If I know how to modify the logs through server communication to cheat, why wouldn't I know how to modify the win data without it reflecting in your logs. Think! May be you might get a good answer, might be possible you would get a crooked one.

Steve - Think again. You could read them if you wanted. But you don't. Sounds familiar.

Pri, your cover has been blown. Accept what you have done.
Why on earth would you go snooping the link: sockets unless you wanted to cheat.  There was no other reason.  You were either expecting the next number to be in the  socket data. The number wasn't there. So your best option was to manipulate the data and in the process you found the way the data was been transmitted and you manipulated it.

In respect to your thinking professors and sorry goes to your parents  who must have taught you how to think in deceiving people.  I guess every scammer has his day. This was yours.

[Steve]

Priyanka, then tell me clearly. Whats your apparent reason for manipulating the logs? Is your final reason curiosity?

And more importantly, why is the descrepancy that shows cheating only apparent on a few spins, but not the many other spins you played?

Im asking because with the exception of a few spins, your bets are all typical and normal like other players. Then you have the WTF lines in the log.

All the log figures add up, except a few lines. So almost every bet wasnt cheating, and those are normal expectation. This shows either your success was on a few spins, or you manipulated the games logs on all spins which would be very time consuming be ause youd need to manually parse different data, if thatswhat you did, instead of the $100 bets on inside numbers.

3nine expose me for what? Telling the truth? Makng a fair game tor members and preventing cheating? Do what you need to do.

[RouletteGhost]

Storage of PMs serves no purpose and is wrong.

[Azim]

Storage of PMs serves no purpose and is wrong.

Technically yes it serves no purpose.

However, legally he has to store them.

[Steve]

Perhaps there's a misunderstanding here. I don't store the pms. The server does, so you can read them. They need to be stored somewhere. 

If they aren't saved by the server, how do you think you'd ever read them? It's the same for every single forum on the Internet.

[RouletteGhost]

Perhaps there's a misunderstanding here. I don't store the pms. The server does, so you can read them. They need to be stored somewhere. 

If they aren't saved by the server, how do you think you'd ever read them? It's the same for every single forum on the Internet.

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