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Why random results are NOT independent

Started by Blue_Angel, Aug 02, 11:20 AM 2016

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Turner

I did warn you BA...tough audience lol

A learning experience for you

You cant kid a kidder lol


Blue_Angel

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 02, 12:10 PM 2016
So will there be an explanation of play, or just gloating?

By combining accurate ideas from maths perspective we could get an edge on roulette.
For example betting 1 number has the least exposure to house edge and because this is not enough to turn things upside down, we could apply the regression towards the mean concept on singles.
For example a number delays for 120 spins, in other words its interval between its last 2 hits is 120 spins, we could bet with high degree of certainty that its next interval will be up to 120 spins, usually much less.
Unfortunately even this scenario isn't good enough, we need a non linear money management to complete the picture.

Steve

BA you can't build a working winning system from fallacy. Your theories are wrong, and you refuse to test properly. I could show you a system that wins over millions of spins, but:

1. It is tested with unrealistic table limits

2. It skips lots of spins

3. Is lucky when bets are large, and mostly loses with low bets. That's luck.

It is not personal but i haven't seen anything from you to show you know what youre talking about. But you take it personally, like others.

Ps:

Alabalah being banned from my forums was because people complained they were scammed by him, and after giving him ample opportunity to prove his claims about his system for sale, he could only repeat more bs, and after removing votes from fake accounts, he was voted off the forum. It had nothing to do with his opinion of me. He hates me with passion because me banning him upset his dishonest income. He can't justify any of his rubbish claims about my approaches being ineffective, but anyone with basic knowledge can reveal his systems as simple scams. It's hard for him to accuse me of scamming when i give away free computers, so he refers to my stock case which is irrelevant, and anyone who took my illegal advice would have made a huge profit. Al doesn't care because of blind hatred.

Warrior is CEH. He misled many people for so long. I sent him a free basic computer for partnership before i knew who he was.  He returned it because he wasn't able to play, not because of the computer. Later i found out he was CEH and asked him why on earth he misled so many people.  His response was he liked making people think. I mean wtf? Of course he attacks me too. But as if i wouldn't ban someone who wilfully misleads people for amusement.

A lot of people with no justification attack me. For personal reasons. And some sheep follow.

Don't take what i say about your systems personally. I just say to you test properly. And if the results aren't convenient, blame the universe designers, not me, general or anyone else that tries to help.

In all there's so much bs in the forums.  All of them.  And it centers around the same people with problems. BA just do proper testing and understand you arent arguing with people like general. You are arguing against logic and verifiable fact.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Steve

And i completely agree with general about the "infection of ignorance". Unfortunately it's the truth. I think he and i value truth over popularity. NOBODY SHOULD TAKE IT PERSONALLY

He can be an asshole, but overall his contributions are far more beneficial to members, than they cause problems.  The truth is often unpopular.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Azim

Quote from: Blue_Angel on Sep 02, 10:11 AM 2016Hey Steve, how about these numbers?

349,289 spins
3,000 units initial capital
5,155 units net profit 171.83% ROI
3,211 units max drawdown


BA,

I am a system player myself. However, if you look at your draw down, and your initial bankroll. There is something wrong.

You or I as a matter of fact nobody, can predict when that will happen. What if it happens the moment you walked in and started playing?
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

Blue_Angel

QuoteI just say to you test properly.
Steve

So 350K is not enough?

QuoteIn all there's so much bs in the forums.
Steve

Indeed and you are part of it.

QuoteBA,

I am a system player myself. However, if you look at your draw down, and your initial bankroll. There is something wrong.

You or I as a matter of fact nobody, can predict when that will happen. What if it happens the moment you walked in and started playing?
Azim

That event has very tiny possibility.


Turner

Quote from: Steve on Sep 03, 04:05 AM 2016Alabalah
Funny you should mention Ali-blah-blah
BA reminds me of him.
Hes the teacher...we are the students
He sets the syllabus and naughty students shouldnt be allowed in the class
This is his University.
Albeit a bogus one with an up-sell

Azim

Quote from: Blue_Angel on Sep 03, 06:02 AM 2016Quote
In all there's so much bs in the forums.
Steve

Indeed and you are part of it.

BA,

I can assure you there is no BS. As much as I hate to say this, Both Steve and General are right in there ways.

I am sure people will agree, I have also come out and said, some of the systems are good, however they will drown you if not played properly with caution.
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

Steve

Quote from: Blue_Angel on Sep 03, 06:02 AM 2016Indeed and you are part of it.

I'm only part of it because people like alabalah don't want their scam banned. And because other people don't like being told they're wrong. These are people i wouldn't mention at all normally. For every 20 times they attack me i mention them once

BA i know nothing about your testing but i know your logic is wrong, so have good reason to belive your system is the same.  and i don't doubt your testing wasnt done properly.  Most likely the bet limits were not realistic.  Even the martingale will win if bet limits aren't realistic. Really i want to be proven wrong. I have no problem at all admitting when I've made a mistake. 
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Azim

Quote from: Steve on Sep 03, 06:14 AM 2016BA i know nothing about your testing but i know your logic is wrong,


I see no explanation about the system that produced the graph.
Is it me or did I miss something?
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

Blue_Angel

QuoteMost likely the bet limits were not realistic.  Even the martingale will win if bet limits aren't realistic.

You've mentioned several persons but I'd prefer not to comment about situations and/or individuals I don't know.
However, I don't understand what do I have to do with all these, if you have a message for them, just let them know.
Why a seller has to be equivalent with a scammer?
There are tons of low quality products being sold every day, if you think it for a while it does make sense, there is no faking way to buy a ''HG'', only mediocre systems are for sale.
The one who possess ''HG'' simply doesn't care for convincing and selling, knowledge is the greatest treasure and it's a reward by its own.
What I care and I do know is what I'm doing, results are the ultimate judge.

Every bet could be a winner with infinite bankroll and no bet limits.

In my case I've specific betting limits, of course you prefer to accuse before asking about something you don't know and is important.

Steve

You revived an old thread, almost 2 years old, which brought my attention to junk being said.

I really dont care what Alabalah sells. I dont care about him. He only became an issue when people were complaining about him to me, and he was using my forums to sell systems that everything indicated didnt work. A system that doesnt work, when the seller claims its a HG, to me is a scam. Intentional dishonesty to get people to buy is scamming. Anyway the internet is full of scams. Its up to people to use their own brains.

If you really have the HG, then really good on you. But Im being honest and direct in what I said. Im not trying to argue anything. And anyone can decide for themselves. Mostly what I'm saying is you need to properly test to determine the validity of your logic.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Blue_Angel

Quote from: Turner on Sep 03, 06:02 AM 2016
Funny you should mention Ali-blah-blah
BA reminds me of him.
Hes the teacher...we are the students
He sets the syllabus and naughty students shouldnt be allowed in the class
This is his University.
Albeit a bogus one with an up-sell

QuoteFunny you should mention Ali-blah-blah

That username reminds me the old time classic: ''Alibaba and the 40 thieves''

QuoteBA reminds me of him.

Should I receive it as compliment, or are you implying that I'm him?

QuoteThis is his University.

Life is the greatest university of all times.

''As long as I'm living, I'm keep on learning'' Plato

Turner

Quote from: Blue_Angel on Sep 03, 06:55 AM 2016Should I receive it as compliment, or are you implying that I'm him?
No...dont think you are him lol.....just remind me of him


Turner

Quote from: Blue_Angel on Sep 03, 06:02 AM 2016In all there's so much bs in the forums.
Steve

Indeed and you are part of it.
I cant always get to grips with Steves world views but can not doubt his understanding of roulette. I have to add Caleb to the above but dont tell him I said so.
I admire Steves thick skin. He is fkin bomb proof

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