Golden Peak

[Turner]

If these 2 sequences have equal possibility, then number 1 is 6 times more probable to hit than 32, 14, 4, 8, 12 and 17

Listen....the maths is right.

Ignore it if you want and hope it goes away

(It won't)

Ok..let's establish something...we sit together at the table and you say " the next 2 numbers will be 1 followed by 1
I say the next 2 will be 12 followed by 17

Who has the best odds of those 2 hitting as predicted or are they the same odds?

[Blue_Angel]

Listen....the maths is right.

Ignore it if you want and hope it goes away

(It won't)

Ok..let's establish something...we sit together at the table and you say " the next 2 numbers will be 1 followed by 1
I say the next 2 will be 12 followed by 17

Who has the best odds of those 2 hitting as predicted or are they the same odds?

Since every number has equal probability to show up, a sequence of 3 different numbers will be more probable than a sequence of 3 times the same number.

If you want to understand that's good for you, if you don't that's your problem.

[Blue_Angel]

Let's take another example;

World record for single number streak is 6, never in the whole history of roulette happened more than 6 times in a row.

Now a question which everybody has the answer, how many times have you seen 6 different numbers in 6 consecutive spins?

Too many!
Sometimes you have to prove that you are not an elephant...!

[Tacwell]

Let's take another example;

World record for single number streak is 6, never in the whole history of roulette happened more than 6 times in a row.

Now a question which everybody has the answer, how many times have you seen 6 different numbers in 6 consecutive spins?

Too many!
Sometimes you have to prove that you are not an elephant...!

If you can't see the difference between selecting one specific number to repeat  6 times and any one of 36 unique random numbers to appear 6 times then you should give up now.

[Blue_Angel]

If you can't see the difference between selecting one specific number to repeat  6 times and any one of 36 unique random numbers to appear 6 times then you should give up now.

Perhaps YOU are the one who doesn't understand that ANY number repeating 6 times DOESN'T have the same probability with ANY 6 different numbers in 6 spins sequence!

Your probability has "holes" because it's contradicting itself!

[Priyanka]

 
Is there a better symbol for rofl . Blue Angel I must admit your math is very very sound.

I remembered something. Open ten fingers. Count backwards from 10 and fold one finger for every count. When you reach the count of 6 stop. We know 10-6 is 4. But there are five fingers left. Very sound math. Lol.

ANY number repeating 6 times DOESN'T have the same probability with ANY 6 different numbers in 6 spins sequence!

This is very correct though.

[Blue_Angel]

I remembered something. Open ten fingers. Count backwards from 10 and fold one finger for every count. When you reach the count of 6 stop. We know 10-6 is 4. But there are five fingers left. Very sound math. Lol.

What does this ludicrous example has to do with what I'm saying here??

[Tacwell]

Perhaps YOU are the one who doesn't understand that ANY number repeating 6 times DOESN'T have the same probability with ANY 6 different numbers in 6 spins sequence!

Your probability has "holes" because it's contradicting itself!

Nope, it's very simple, if you select 1 to repeat, you're selecting a single number, ie. 1/37 to come next, if you're selecting any number other than the last to appear, i.e. no repeat, you're selecting 36/37, quite simple really.

[Blue_Angel]

Nope, it's very simple, if you select 1 to repeat, you're selecting a single number, ie. 1/37 to come next, if you're selecting any number other than the last to appear, i.e. no repeat, you're selecting 36/37, quite simple really.

Do you want to hide behind words?

If I pick number 1 (specific) to bet for 37 spins or if I'm betting the last number for 37 spins it doesn't have any difference in probability terms.

Having the same number (specific or any) repeating 6 times in row is much more rare than having 6 different numbers (specific or any) in 6 consecutive spins.

In other words the probability of a sequence doesn't depend only from its length.

I remembered something. Open ten fingers. Count backwards from 10 and fold one finger for every count. When you reach the count of 6 stop. We know 10-6 is 4. But there are five fingers left. Very sound math. Lol.

Even Coco the gorilla knows that! 

[falkor2k15]

Perhaps YOU are the one who doesn't understand that ANY number repeating 6 times DOESN'T have the same probability with ANY 6 different numbers in 6 spins sequence!

Your probability has "holes" because it's contradicting itself!

Interesting discussion, but you have to take into account 2 scenarios:

1,1,1,1,1,1
VS.
any combination of 6 different numbers

1,1,1,1,1,1
VS.
a specific combination of 6 different numbers

[Azim]

I remembered something. Open ten fingers. Count backwards from 10 and fold one finger for every count. When you reach the count of 6 stop. We know 10-6 is 4. But there are five fingers left. Very sound math. Lol.

Yes Pri, go check your math.  Count 1 for every fold and when you reach 6 you do have 4 left unless you have 11  fingers which some people do.

[Blue_Angel]

The probability of a sequence doesn't depend only from its length.

Every sequence of the same length has the same probability to occur (or not) correct or wrong??

There are many more sequences contributing towards different outcomes rather than the same.
Therefore it's correct if you are looking at the "tree" and is wrong if you are looking at the "forest".
Many trees make a forest, don't you agree?

[Blue_Angel]

Yes Pri, go check your math.  Count 1 for every fold and when you reach 6 you do have 4 left unless you have 11  fingers which some people do.

That was a good 1! 

[Blue_Angel]

So dear Steve & Turner, 1,1,1,1,1,1 is just one of the many possible sequences.

The aftermath is: "Unus pluribus"

[Turner]

So dear Steve & Turner, 1,1,1,1,1,1 is just one of the many possible sequences.

The aftermath is: "Unus pluribus"

you can add as many elephants or gorillas or latin phrases you like...

1 1 1 1 1 1 has the same probability of showing as 1 2 3 4 5 6 or 17,18,22,12,34,0