Golden Peak

[RouletteGhost]

The math will never change

But i get it

11111
Is as likely as
1 32 4 4 12

But we all know one is more likely

[Turner]

The math will never change

But i get it

11111
Is as likely as
1 32 4 4 12

But we all know one is more likely

I dont get what you meant

1 32 4 4 12 is more likely?

I am starting to see the confusion now, with Angel too

Something (anything) other than 1 1 1 1 1 1 is more likely, is not the same as 1 32 4 4 12 is more likely than 1 1 1 1 1 1

1 32 4 4 12 is not more likely than 1 1 1 1 1 1 but anything other than 1 1 1 1 1 1 is.

duh....obviously

[RouletteGhost]

Im not with you

I dont get what you meant

1 32 4 4 12 is more likely?

I cant have words to describe it

Its ok no big deal

[psimoes]

In the example posted above 1 32 4 4 12 isn´t more likely to happen than 11111. 1 32 4 4 11 for instance (note the 11 hit when it "should" have been the 12) doesn´t qualify. Close, but it´s not the same sequence. For that last 12 to hit there are 36 other numbers with identical probability to hit as well. And that happens with every number in that sequence.

11111 is a lot easier to think of as a bet selection. Tihe devil himself wouldn´t remember of testing for how many times  1 32 4 4 12 or whatever shows up in 10000000000 spins. 11111 instead seems "useful", or "relevant". But it´s no more than any specific sequence of x numbers.

Don´t delude yourselves.

[Blue_Angel]

Something (anything) other than 1 1 1 1 1 1 is more likely, is not the same as 1 32 4 4 12 is more likely than 1 1 1 1 1 1

1 32 4 4 12 is not more likely than 1 1 1 1 1 1 but anything other than 1 1 1 1 1 1 is.

If anything else is more likely than any certain sequence of 6 numbers, why it's different for a sequence of a single outcome?

If we accept your word as the truth, then whether one number hits once or 6 times has the same probability, but of course it's far from true.

[MrJ]

you can add as many elephants or gorillas or latin phrases you like...

1 1 1 1 1 1 has the same probability of showing as 1 2 3 4 5 6 or 17,18,22,12,34,0

This is correct. (I have to be very careful with the wording)......as I said earlier, what CAN happen vs. what "PROBABLY" won't happen !!!!

Ken

[Blue_Angel]

This is correct. (I have to be very careful with the wording)......as I said earlier, what CAN happen vs. what "PROBABLY" won't happen !!!!

Ken

Do you consider a sequence of 6 outcomes as 1 streak of 6 or as 6 singles??

Does every streak, regardless of its length, contains single outcomes?
Then why it's different for a sequence of a single outcome?
If what you say was true, then whether one number hits once or 6 times in a row would has the same probability, but of course it's far from true.

There are more than one way to look into something.

[MrJ]

  then whether one number hits once or 6 times in a row would has the same probability, but of course it's far from true.

This is the difficult part regarding creating a decent method. That SAME number *COULD* hit six times in a row, it IS the same probability PER SPIN. Will it however? Hell no.

Ken

[MrJ]

This is the difficult part regarding creating a decent method. That SAME number *COULD* hit six times in a row, it IS the same probability PER SPIN. Will it however? Hell no.

Ken

...and this is partially how I have come up with 2 or 3 very decent methods. Taking this bulls**t of...."anything can happen" and introducing it with, "what most likely will not happen".

I live in the northern U.S.

Fine, a rare roulette event with my SAME method might of just happened in South Korea. What do I care? (lol).

Ken

[Blue_Angel]

That SAME number *COULD* hit six times in a row, it IS the same probability PER SPIN.

Please let me clarify one thing, it's one thing to say "could" which translates to 1 in 7 billion and completely another thing to say that it has the same probability!

In theory everything could be possible, even when you step out of your door someone could kill you and steal your wallet, but does this slim possibility make you not get out?

If we are to consider even such things then we would not do anything, not only in roulette but in life too!

Such theories are highly impractical and useless for the everyday activities, you should concentrate on what's happening most of the times rather than what could happen.

[Blue_Angel]

hit six times in a row, it IS the same probability PER SPIN.

NO, it's not the same probability!

Is it the same to win one time an EC with winning the same EC 6 times in a row??
If I win 1 time I would win 1 unit, if I win 6 times in a row I would win 63 units, this is why 6 in a row has 1 in 64 probability, not  1 in 1.

I cannot make it simpler for you in order to understand it.

[MrJ]

Please let me clarify one thing, it's one thing to say "could" which translates to 1 in 7 billion and completely another thing to say that it has the same probability!

In theory everything could be possible, even when you step out of your door someone could kill you and steal your wallet, but does this slim possibility make you not get out?

If we are to consider even such things then we would not do anything, not only in roulette but in life too!

Such theories are highly impractical and useless for the everyday activities, you should concentrate on what's happening most of the times rather than what could happen.

I suck at the explaining part but I know via actually doing it part. (I hope that made sense)

Per spin is always the same, 1/37, 1/38...it never changes. We'll say....same number hitting 3 times in a row is STILL 1/38. Picking (prior to spinning) that number 3 times in a row is different. I know its 38 to the third which is a far cry from 1/38.

I see/hear this a lot at the casino and I laugh my a** off....the 14 just hit 3 times in a row. Everyone at the table and the dealer..."OMG, what are the chances of that?!"

(rofl), 1/38 idiots....BUT lets say Bob the gambler calls it out prior to spinning, the 14 will hit 3 times in a row (and it does), not only is it 38 to the third but I would also run out of the casino thinking he is satan in the flesh. Before and after an event are TWO different things.

Ken

[MrJ]

NO, it's not the same probability!

Is it the same to win one time an EC with winning the same EC 6 times in a row??
If I win 1 time I would win 1 unit, if I win 6 times in a row I would win 63 units, this is why 6 in a row has 1 in 64 probability, not  1 in 1.

I cannot make it simpler for you in order to understand it.

PER SPIN, yes it is.

Per spin means, one at a time...it is 1/37 (or 1/38).

Ken

[Blue_Angel]

I suck at the explaining part but I know via actually doing it part. (I hope that made sense)

Per spin is always the same, 1/37, 1/38...it never changes. We'll say....same number hitting 3 times in a row is STILL 1/38. Picking (prior to spinning) that number 3 times in a row is different. I know its 38 to the third which is a far cry from 1/38.

I see/hear this a lot at the casino and I laugh my a** off....the 14 just hit 3 times in a row. Everyone at the table and the dealer..."OMG, what are the chances of that?!"

(rofl), 1/38 idiots....BUT lets say Bob the gambler calls it out prior to spinning, the 14 will hit 3 times in a row (and it does), not only is it 38 to the third but I would also run out of the casino thinking he is satan in the flesh. Before and after an event are TWO different things.

Ken

Exactly and of course I'm talking about bets placed, not results observed, some fallacious gamblers think that they could sidestep probability by waiting and then betting!

Same probability assumes single bets, not a series of bets.
Personally I don't use fallacious triggers and I bet non stop, thus I consider every bet as part of my session and every session as a part of the long term.

[MrJ]

Exactly and of course I'm talking about bets placed, not results observed

Dumb question here but I want to know where you are at with this. You said "bets placed".

Lets say you are at a table and you skipped betting for 10 spins. The odds with everything stays the same regardless if you were betting or not, correct? Had to ask, sorry.

Ken