Question

[MrJ]

"This morning numbers 1, 2 and 0 were outstandingly hot" >> Ok but this is based on the same SOURCE (group) of numbers, correct?

@Steve >> My question here is in GENERAL terms and has little to do with your gift of playing/practice for us. Its NOT an insult to you, I hope you understand that from me.

Ken

[Steve]

I would need to see the sequence of numbers to know for sure, but when you see ridiculous hot numbers it is probably because it switched to bad rng. A mod is being done so it wont happen, and will just go from one file to the next. For now it just works with one file at a time. Anyone paying close attention at the right times can exploit it, although it only happens comparatively rarely. Again a simple change will make things run properly all the time.


No there is not just one source of numbers.

[nottophammer]

22 3 13 27 19 7 31 8 12 28 10 9 25 32 27 0 21 26 29 2 14 30 24 5 19 1 19 27 3 5 15 19 8 35 8 24 19

are these live spun numbers or RNG, are they from one source or different the question is could your method win with this set of numbers

[XXVV]

Yes the hot numbers I quoted were clearly from the one session source, and in fact here they are as recorded by me. In this example I used hot numbers to win, and a street play method which is based on short cycle cluster analysis. I know for certain it was the one session source because throughout the session the hits were flowing on first or second attempt basis using 9 number sets to predict a likely statistical edge outcome. That may all sound gobbledegook but it was recognised and developed by a professional statistician and then into a flat bet by me. The statistician used to short progress ( 4 attempts in a short progression on 9 targets and stop if failing the re-set for a second wave recovery attack).


Of course it also have been random seamless but I try to avoid seams as my belief in short cycle theory in roulette is total.


My other approach on the corners for 16 numbers struggled in this group so I was not playing it. Curious that one fails but another flourishes. I like that simple flexibility. I also must empahasise as seen from my playing stats I play only very short sessions, usually only less than a dozen spins, merely trying to time entry and exit. I call it 'Time Theory'. lol.


Here are this morning's session numbers ( 27 I observed and played live 22 spins).


1
27
30
29
9
10
20
0
2
1
2
1
21
1
27
31
14
18
31
22
23
3
29
13
7
23
18
---


please do not put this sequence down to poor RNG as I believe this exhibits characteristic short cycle penultimate spin phase cycles where a dealer is alternating regularly every alternate spin back to the same wheel zone ( Euro wheel), particularly with number 1. I am a big fan of this number on the Euro wheel because for me it is right on the boundary between C and D wheel zones and shows the overlaps. In the really useful sequence above the ball was bouncing from C/D boundary to B zone and back to C/D zone again several cycles.


Hope this helps.

[Turner]

So Turner, if the 35 was hit 6 times in the last 20 spins and then the "group of numbers" changed, you feel it'll be exactly the same?

Ken

Each number is random and independent

Hot numbers are created because every number has the same chance to show.

The mean for that chance is 24 in 37
There will be deviations from that mean but they have less chance.
Thats why we have repeats on random numbers.
If all 37 numbers are deemed random...why would it matter where they came from?

If the source wasnt random then thats different

[nottophammer]

My other approach on the corners for 16 numbers struggled in this group so I was not playing it.

Is MB 16 a rigid set 2/5-11/15-16/20-31/35.
One more ? WF means

Thanks

[MrJ]

Each number is random and independent

Hot numbers are created because every number has the same chance to show.

The mean for that chance is 24 in 37
There will be deviations from that mean but they have less chance.
Thats why we have repeats on random numbers.
If all 37 numbers are deemed random...why would it matter where they came from?

If the source wasnt random then thats different

I'll re-word it. We have 50 numbers from a casino (one table) in Las Vegas...the 7 & 32 have each hit 5 times. Next, we know for a fact our GROUP of numbers are NOW from a casino in Reno. Do the 7 & 32 mean anything to you now and why?

Ken

[Turner]

I'll re-word it. We have 50 numbers from a casino (one table) in Las Vegas...the 7 & 32 have each hit 5 times. Next, we know for a fact our GROUP of numbers are NOW from a casino in Reno. Do the 7 & 32 mean anything to you now and why?

Ken

A)If you think of the 50 numbers as related in some way, no, because you believe that switching to Reno is a different set of numbers and somehow 7 and 32 came hot on that table in vegas


B)If you think random numbers are independent, you know the 50 numbers are not related and 7 and 32 have hit above expectation because the mean is 24 and some will hit and others wont leaving some that will hit a few times.


The table isnt the reason. What random numbers do is the reason, so to switch to Reno wont make any difference.


The question is, if I believe B), would I be playing hot numbers or would I be playing AP?


There is nothing to say 7 and 32 will hit again in the next 200 spins. Thats for A and for B


Ken, why do you think 7 and 32 are hot and will hit again (if you do, that is)

[MrJ]

Well then this goes back to the 15 year debate I have been having (while most only read it).

Solution.....close the boards down.
GUT, KTF etc.

So the bottom line is.....computers or AP, thats it? 

You have no idea how much you made my day. Its stuff like this (and I know Turbo agrees), that only makes me more silent. Share info, for what? So the nay-sayers can benefit? I think I'll pass.

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

Hot numbers are gamblers fallacy

Unless wheel is defective

[RouletteGhost]

Im not knocking it

All my methods are gamblers fallacy

If it works it works

Just because it falls under gamblers fallacy doesn't mean it doesnt work enough

All im saying is you can bash KTF until you are blue in the face, it fights the same HE you do.....

Your method is no better or no worse then anyone elses.

Doesnt matter how you choose the bet. Never changes.

[Turner]

Well then this goes back to the 15 year debate I have been having (while most only read it).

Solution.....close the boards down.
GUT, KTF etc.

So the bottom line is.....computers or AP, thats it? 

You have no idea how much you made my day. Its stuff like this (and I know Turbo agrees), that only makes me more silent. Share info, for what? So the nay-sayers can benefit? I think I'll pass.

Ken

Turbo believes B actually.
Ken...I didnt say what I believe. I just stated facts.
Im actually not sure you are replying to my post...was looking to see if there was another post after mine.

I didnt say AP or the highway either. Was attemting a devils advocate approach to promote some debate.

Oh well

[MrJ]

Im not knocking it

All my methods are gamblers fallacy

If it works it works

Just because it falls under gamblers fallacy doesn't mean it doesnt work enough

All im saying is you can bash KTF until you are blue in the face, it fights the same HE you do.....

Your method is no better or no worse then anyone elses.

Doesnt matter how you choose the bet. Never changes.

This is where we could get yourself, me, General, Turner all going in different directions.

Question for you RG >> what do you think of this method? >> bet the 2 4 6 only after an odd number hits and WITH a progression << what do you think of this??

By your definition (and some others) that method is NO BETTER than GUT, do you agree? You should if we/you are consistent.

The other point, dont put *ME* in the grouping with...."you guys", its insulting. I dont mean that in a bad way. I put in too much time to be referred to as a....KTF kinda guy.

I paid my dues, we can disagree all day long. You're not in my realm.

Ken 

[MrJ]

Turbo believes B actually.
Ken...I didnt say what I believe. I just stated facts.
Im actually not sure you are replying to my post...was looking to see if there was another post after mine.

I didnt say AP or the highway either. Was attemting a devils advocate approach to promote some debate.

Oh well

...and thats cool, thanks. My point is this....people (not you) cant say its either AP or computers only!! ....and, Oh by the way, I really like xxx method. It makes no sense.

Ken

[MrJ]

The best system ever >> bet the 2 4 6 only after an odd number hits and WITH a progression, what do you think of this system??

Point is this.....not one system guy here can say this system sucks! If everything is the SAME, this is not a bad system, it cant be.

Ken