Question

[Blue_Angel]

Lose...get pissed at dealer(s)...get drunk...chase Asian a**...get rejected from said Asian a**...go home...take care of it "myself"...wake up next day...evaluate what went wrong at the casino with method (if anything) and TRY and fix it.

Remember, sometimes *NOTHING* went wrong with the method. We are allowed to simply have a bad day. Its multiple bad days that get my attention.

Ken

How many units is your win goal per session?
Where is the thin line between hit and run and profit target per session?
I believe the answer is in the relationship between bankroll and profit target, they have to be as much balanced as possible.
If you are ready to risk 1000 units in order to win 10 that's hit 'n' run, but if you risk 360 to win 100 is profit goal.
This is my interpretation, what's yours?

[MrJ]

How many units is your win goal per session?
Where is the thin line between hit and run and profit target per session?
I believe the answer is in the relationship between bankroll and profit target, they have to be as much balanced as possible.
If you are ready to risk 1000 units in order to win 10 that's hit 'n' run, but if you risk 360 to win 100 is profit goal.
This is my interpretation, what's yours?

My hits are $1,750

I shoot for 2K net, go home.

Ken

[Turner]

.and thats kinda my point. Its suppose to be ALL the same but sorry, I dont agree.

Ken...I tend to adopt a view for research purposes
Like method acting.
Its pretencious to say the least.
But I find it better to analise if I adopt it
That way...some folks get animated and I learn a new angle.
Not saying I dont believe what I said. Just saying I learn more if I have to argue the point.
Often....I see my argument is rediculous and I wouldnt of thought that deep if I hadnt embraced the point.
Its how I learn.

[MrJ]

Turner.....also remember, only one person so far (you) has answered my question. The real reason for that....they cant really say my 2 4 6 method sucks, then they have to answer for it.

I put Turbo at the top or near it. There is no way my 2 4 6 method (lol) is EQUAL to something of high value from Turbo (or myself), no way BUT I should be wrong I guess.

Ken

[Turner]

Ken...Its nice to have reasons why you bet a certain way

The problem is that a lot of people dont have a reason.
The method should test the reason..

Lets start at the lowest...which I consider chinese and taxi drivers at my casino.
They cover 20 or so numbers and lose thousands. Ive seen it.
Ive seen them win 1000s on 1 spin...and punch the air. They have no concept of the fact they are behind by 6 times what they won.
Its sad and painful.
You have to admit....no one here plays that way. Even kens OK system is leagues ahead in one fact.
Its being played for a reason.....misguided?...perhaps but it can be followed by better play
In my case...better play is total control and staying in the game longer.
Im not losing or I wouldnt be still doing this but...it seems in the back of my mind, theoretically, I am

I dont think I contribute to the casino " hold" but I am subject to the HE.

[MrJ]

"I dont think I contribute to the casino " hold" but I am subject to the HE" >>

Very very good point. I have done a thread on this in the past. Quite a shame, little interest, again.

Ken

[MrJ]

MORE people need to understand what the HOLD is. I'm embarrassed it took me as long as it did.

Ken

[MrJ]

link:://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/nv_table_hold.pdf

[RouletteGhost]

Ive seen them win 1000s on 1 spin...and punch the air.

The universal "YES!" in human body language

[Blue_Angel]

The universal "YES!" in human body language

I had such a moment when dealer George from Dublinbet casino spun my number (only 1 number betting) an incredible 6 times in 8 spins!
Of course I've rewarded him with generous tips, all the rest of my casino experiences are more like business as usual.

[psimoes]

... and that, kids, is why you must stay away from LSD.

[RouletteGhost]

Actually

I do see merit in a 4 or 5 step strategy of diffrrerent bets using a progression

It would be 4 or 5 methods going to next method on a loss

One could even say it is not a progression because you are changing methods

4 or 5 solid bet selections. If lose goto method 2. If lose goto method 3. Etc

Dont even use the word progression

Simply say if lose method 1, goto method 2. If lose method 2 goto method 3

The bad progression word doesnt have to be used

[Turner]

MORE people need to understand what the HOLD is. I'm embarrassed it took me as long as it did.

Ken

As far as I know its the amount the casino wins by punters replaying their winnings over and over


I guess its the HE in action for punters who keep going even if they seem to be up and have had a good night. Its about 20%


So, heres something I just thought of. If everyone played carefully with lots of control and used systems that kept them in the game longer than they stayed at the casino, the Casinos would shut because the HE isnt enough to make profit and pay the wages and overheads.


Never thought of it, and its not like me to say something without studying it.

[psimoes]

Actually

I do see merit in a 4 or 5 step strategy of diffrrerent bets using a progression

It would be 4 or 5 methods going to next method on a loss

One could even say it is not a progression because you are changing methods

4 or 5 solid bet selections. If lose goto method 2. If lose goto method 3. Etc

Dont even use the word progression

Simply say if lose method 1, goto method 2. If lose method 2 goto method 3

The bad progression word doesnt have to be used

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14249.msg121249#msg121249

[RouletteGhost]

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14249.msg121249#msg121249

Thanks. I just noticed i posted in the wrong thread

Did not mean to post that here

But thanks for the link