visual ballistics

[The General]

Has RouletteGhost been teaching you VB? 


A machine can't look at the past numbers that have hit and the distance between them in order to predict the wheel speed of the next spin.
That's as goofy as using astrology to predict the future or dice to predict whether or not it will rain. 

[Roulettebeater]

Has RouletteGhost been teaching you VB? 


A machine can't look at the past numbers that have hit and the distance between them in order to predict the wheel speed of the next spin.
That's as goofy as using astrology to predict the future or dice to predict whether or not it will rain. 

i didnt want to reveal this part, but you pushed me to do so!
listen, i guess you have no skills in computing and machine learning.. never mind, i will give you a clue

if you consider wheel speed is variable_1 and ball speed is variable_b, once you know the launch point and the final point, you can easily simulate wheel speed until you find the correct measurement.

ball speed usually doesnt make huge change, in fact different ball speeds can result in same result

remember you only need a fraction of accuracy to turn over the casino edge

got it?

[The General]

i didnt want to reveal this part, but you pushed me to do so!
listen, i guess you have no skills in computing and machine learning.. never mind, i will give you a clue

if you consider wheel speed is variable_1 and ball speed is variable_b, once you know the launch point and the final point, you can easily simulate wheel speed until you find the correct measurement.

ball speed usually doesnt make huge change, in fact different ball speeds can result in same result

remember you only need a fraction of accuracy to turn over the casino edge

got it?

Roulettebeater,

You forget, one of us plays as a hobby, and the other has been playing professionally since probably before you were born. 
No, you're not able to measure the wheel speed accurately enough in that way.  You're assumptions about the ball speed is wrong as well.  Yes, there are compensation hits, but there are also all of the degrees in between.  Right now you're just not grasping the basics of VB.  What you're doing is very primitive.  Just measuring yardage and the change in yardage between spins isn't going to cut it online and you're results won't be any better than just guessing.

By the way, I already have software that can instantly simulate the above and it produces the standard deviation graphs of those changes between spins by comparing one spin to the next series of spins and graphs the consistencies.      

[The General]

You can't determine how far or fast a car has been driven by just observing it's starting location and where it finally parked.

[Roulettebeater]

You can't determine how far or fast a car has been driven by just observing it's starting location and where it finally parked.

Bullshit!

see here



This graph represent the distribution of the pockets for 10k spins.

After ball leaves track, it bounces and rest, graph represents how many pockets the ball bounces until it rest.
you can see my system has an edge, its clear that pockets range from 0 until 14  are dominants..

still unsatisfied ?

[The General]

I don't know what it is that you're trying to graph.
And you've got a real problem with your graph IF it's supposed to represent the distances from the predicted because 36 and 37 pockets are way tooo weak.

Can you explain it better, and also provide the number of times each position actually hit?

[Roulettebeater]

I don't know what it is that you're trying to graph.
And you've got a real problem with your graph IF it's supposed to represent the distances from the predicted because 36 and 37 pockets are way tooo weak.

Can you explain it better, and also provide the number of times each position actually hit?

General,


it's easy and clear like clear sky...
graph represents the distribution of the pockets (after ball leaves the track and rest).
my system predicts with certain accuracy the exit point.. and graph revealed that my system has an edge by placing betting on the dominant pockets which include pockets ranging from 0 till 14.

[Roulettebeater]

so it's graph that represents the ball scatter

[Roulettebeater]

POCKET   TOTAL
7   298
0   285
4   280
8   274
1   264
5   264
3   255
6   252
10   252
9   252
13   244
12   244
11   244
15   243
16   235
2   228
18   228
14   221
17   215
20   213
21   207
22   188
19   184
23   179
24   173
25   156
26   150
27   131
29   124
28   116
31   97
30   91
32   71
33   71
34   44
35   23
36   5

[The General]

Roulettebeater,

That's just a ball bounce scatter plot.  So what?!

That has nothing to do with what the wheel speed will be on the next spin!

By the way, you really should use a standard deviation graph format with chi square function.  That way you can instantly view the statistical relevance of a plot.

[Roulettebeater]

rulettebeater,

That's just a ball bounce scatter plot.  So what?!

That has nothing to do with what the wheel speed will be on the next spin!

By the way, you really should use a standard deviation graph format with chi square function.  That way you can instantly view the statistical relevance of a plot.

General,

i am running out of patience with your ignorance! sorry!

I dont care about the graph, what i care is the expectation.

in this graph i am displaying the difference between my expectation and the position /pocket in which the ball rested!

in other words, system predicts exit position, and graph displays that the final position of the ball is within 0-14 pockets from expectation!

i can now simply get from the system the exit position and cover as well the recommended zone (0-14)

got it?

[The General]

Here's the correct representation of what you posted.  I'm guessing that the five hits on the number 36 is a typo? 

That graph looks rather suspect. 

[The General]

General,

i am running out of patience with your ignorance! sorry!

I dont care about the graph, what i care is the expectation.

in this graph i am displaying the difference between my expectation and the position /pocket in which the ball rested!

in other words, system predicts exit position, and graph displays that the final position of the ball is within 0-14 pockets from expectation!

i can now simply get from the system the exit position and cover as well the recommended zone (0-14)

got it?

You keep changing what it is.  Is this a scatter plot showing how far the ball bounced when it struck the deflector at the end of the spin to the final resting position? 

or

Is it a predict land scatter plot?

I'm guessing there's a problem with the language translation barrier.

[Roulettebeater]

Here's the correct representation of what you posted.  I'm guessing that the five hits on the number 36 is a typo? 

That graph looks rather suspect.

Fu*k


NOOOOOOOOOO that's not what i posted!

yours is just numbers that hit most on a biased wheel!!!


Man, how can i explain it to you?
are you sure you are expert?  i doubt that

never mind, i will explain it to you in plain english.

listen, system predicts the exit position of the ball from track, this position will be considered pocket 0.

graph studied 10k spins and confirmed that the expectation is OK, you can see on graph that all what we need to do is place bets on zone (pockets 0  >14)

[Roulettebeater]

Is this a scatter plot showing how far the ball bounced when it struck the deflector at the end of the spin to the final resting position   



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