The forum rules in English

[Steve]

For people that dont understand the simple rules here, Ill elaborate.

My job here is protecting the balance between free speech, and a friendly and productive environment. It does no good to have a happy go lucky forum where we tug each other and nobody says anything that might be upsetting. And it does not good to have a constant negative and condcending attitude towards others. The required balance for a fun and productive forum is between honesty and discretion. Basically honesty, with manners.

I recognize you need to be able to call a spade a spade, but calling someones system "retarded" is over the line. Is that really difficult to grasp? It is more appropriate to explain why a system wont work. And if you dont even have enough information to help others understand WHY the system fails, then you are in no position to accuse someone of scamming. Yes I know almost every system being sold is a scam, but if I let people call every seller retarded or a scammer, without details even being known, then it shits on the possibility that maybe a system has something to offer. Maybe it doesnt, but you never know, until you know.

Some people accuse me of attacking systems that might threaten the 120% edge of computers. I know its just a stupid childish claim when someone doesnt have brains to think of something better. It comes from a kid having a spat. But yes ND, Im terrified I might find something better to use for myself - like one of your systems. Then other people accuse me of helping scams. The reality? Im just protecting the balance. Remember i even allowed alabalah until his scam became so blatantly obvious.

As for people who think my decisions are inconsistent. Actually the rules are clear and specific. If they are not understood, you might get confused when you are moderated after constant complaints, and upon view me finding the past hundred or so of your posts are mostly bickering and negativity, with few contributions. And no its not that the world hates you. Its how you treat others to begin, and they respond. You make your own bed. Its not rocket science. Dont take it personally, and dont blame me for taking the most appropriate option. Moderation.

I run a fair and balanced forum. I dont run an unmoderated mess like gf, which almost entirely consists of people banned and complaining about other boards. Look at how you all behave there. Thats grown up? And you wonder why you get banned at other forums. If protecting the blalance means you get moderated, it says more about you than me. But its easier to blame and criticize me. Im the one with the problem, right? Grow up guys.

[Taotie]

>> It does no good to have a happy go lucky forum where we tug each …

I hope you meant hug each other?


>> if I let people call every seller retarded or a scammer, without details even being known, then it shits on the possibility that maybe a system has something to offer…

You could probably still allow people to cry scammer and let the seller rebut. At least until it becomes obvious either way.



>> Some people accuse me of attacking systems that might threaten the 120% edge of computers…

The very best systems are unlikely to ever challenge a computer’s 120% edge, but using computers is perilous. So what edge would be a realistic compromise for a system that removed any peril?

[RouletteGhost]

Caleb should never be allowed back

Today on the sad excuse of a forum: GF, he called nowun a "fruit cake" for eating organically and playing "remote viewing"

I dont care how good he is at beating roulette, he is a rude, closed minded, POS

The atitude of "do as i do or you're wrong" is a regressive attitude

For someone so smart he surely has a closed mind.

His message is fine. The way its delivered makes everyone not interested. This makes him NOT smart

A golden egg cannot be delivered by a devil.

[Steve]

Today on the sad excuse of a forum: GF, he called nowun a "fruit cake" for eating organically and playing "remote viewing"

What Caleb needs to understand it is valid science. It is well documented that the CIA spent a lot of time working with those methods, and credible people have come forward stating remote viewing is secretly used in modern warfare. But "remote viewing" is actually a different thing to precognition. Remote viewing is observing places, whereas precognition is predicting events. As for precognition, there is also ample evidence supporting it is valid science. If Caleb or anyone so easily dismisses it, who cares.

I dont care how good he is at beating roulette, he is a rude, closed minded, POS

I do agree with you on this.

For someone so smart he surely has a closed mind.

Understanding techniques that are easily learned from books, and basic roulette probability and edge, does not make someone smart. I don't know anywhere near enough about to him to know if he's "smart" (ie highly intelligent).

Anyway I see he's criticizing the threads on this forum. I find that amusing considering two of the largest and longest running threads on gf are attacking people and other forums. We don't allow trash here. I'm not being biased, but I think here we have a good balance that achieves a friendly and productive environment.

[RouletteGhost]

Remote viewing is actual science and it's fascinating

[Steve]

I hope you meant hug each other?

You could probably still allow people to cry scammer and let the seller rebut. At least until it becomes obvious either way

Yes they can, but if there is an accusation like that, there should still be manners about it. A scammer has an appropriate definition, whereas "retarded" is inappropriate. If a system seller doesnt want to prove any of their claims and just wants to draw people to PM, then thats not allowed. It is stated in the forum rules. If you want to sell something, do it in the open where there can be open criticism and questions etc.

The very best systems are unlikely to ever challenge a computer’s 120% edge, but using computers is perilous. So what edge would be a realistic compromise for a system that removed any peril?

It's nowhere near as "perilous" as most people think. I know so many players that play routinely as if it's just what they do. Myself included. And we never play illegally. Like we'd never play in Vegas - that's suicide.
Its not hard to avoid detection, but that's not the point. It's not worth the risk when there are ample legal places.

Next best to roulette computers (in terms of edge) would be visual ballistics in perfect conditions, but that's very hard to come by. A lot of vb players talk about magic techniques that deal with ball deceleration or rotor speed changes, but it's mostly fantasy because such techniques are not realistically viable for players who arent super-human. And why bother struggling with advanced vb when even a basic computer does the same thing so easily.

Next best are methods that get predictions before ball release. There are many ways to do this. I roll all the best methods into a single method, which is what my JAA system is. And combine it with a statistical analysis called "cross referencing". Basically normally proper analysis needs tonnes of spins and its not so practical for most players. But cross referencing checks for consistency between different parts of the data, so it builds a clearer picture of that's happening. Basically a dynamic model of the wheel, where if one variable changes, the predictions are adapted. The best edge you can get with such an approach is about 15%. But often a player will get just a 2-5% or so, which is still profitable. But despite the cross referencing, it is not possible to know for certain what the edge is until perhaps thousands of spins are tested. Nothing in roulette is short term (besides roulette computers).

[mogul397]

I was away for a week.

Can't believe I came back to more of this.

[Steve]

Actually what you missed was better moderation of the nonsense. Take a closer look. I was just explaining WHY I moderated members, because they were complaining about it on other forums. I made the rules clearer so there should be no confusion about what's unacceptable.

[nowun]

But "remote viewing" is actually a different thing to precognition. Remote viewing is observing places, whereas precognition is predicting events.

Yep you are absolutely right.  I only call it remote viewing because that is what others have called it when involving roulette number prediction.  Precognition is what it really is.  We all have the ability, the trouble is most are too closed minded or scared to learn how to use it.  It is easier to ridicule than embrace.

I dont care how good he is at beating roulette, he is a rude, closed minded, POS

We only have his word for it that he can beat roulette.  I take everything he says with a grain of salt.  Bitter old loser comes to mind regularly whenever I read his posts.

[Steve]

I agree. And people have believed in a lot wackier things. Like a race of evil reptiles invading our planet, led by a master serpent. And he's out to enslave us all and make us worship him mwahaha. That's Christianity and many other religions. Maybe there are "reptillians", who knows. Never seen one, but space is mighty big.

And anyone who's had experience with hallucinogens will understand its not really hallucination. Yes its easy to judge if you have no experience. It's not quite hallucination. It's something else. It is like poking your head through a portal to something very, very different - but also very familiar, like its your real home. Its a place where time and space is meaningless. Sounds cliche but its true. Anyone who's experienced it will better understand this physical reality is a lot more fluid and arbitrary than it seems. And being able to "sense" an event (precognition) is really not so unrealistic at all.

[RouletteGhost]

David icke and the lizard peeps

I mean im into conspiracies

But the whole lizard people politician thing is insane

[paulee]

Actually what you missed was better moderation of the nonsense.

Good work.  The forum has needed it for a while.  It was becoming unfriendly.

[Steve]

But the whole lizard people politician thing is insane

I know it sounds ridiculous. But if you do lots of research on it, you find there are some odd things about the bloodlines of specific families. Not that they're space reptilians. I mean that these elite are largely related.

Once Icke said something like he knew someone who saw the queen of England shapeshift. While nothing is impossible, I think that kind of talk is unsubstantiated and without sufficient foundation. I'm not saying its true or false. I'm saying there's f*** all proof of the claims, so don't make the claims. The only "proof" I've seen of shapeshifting are videos on youtube and its not at all convincing. He needs to stick to what he can prove, like what the banking elite do.

[RouletteGhost]

No doubt the blood lines link

Ive watched more conspiracy videos then i could count

Ive calmed down over the years

One day watch "the disclosure project"

Its ex military and high ranking officials talking about aliens. Its on youtube

Astronaut edgar mitchell says roswell was real and they recovered aliens

[Steve]

I have little doubt other intelligent life exists. It's absurd to think we are the only ones.