NLE mk2

[ozon]

I had some time in the past few days, I started to play this bet selection with standard progression + 1 / -1, my assumptions were 40 units target profit or -200 units for stoplose session.
With the experience , I know That nozero BV, kill That kind of progression with standard bet selection, after making about 20% of your bankroll.
To my surprise I make 400 units without a single defeat. My highest stake was 18 units a few times, but never more.
I know it does not mean anything, the tests were too short.
But certainly interesting, because very rarely sees the bet selection which has other results, that any random bet. IT is very stable selection.
I dont recommend BV nozero to play for money, this strategy is sometimes very long, and if preferable to try to play, you will be caught problems with connection.

[mogul397]

This is the NLE system where you see 3 in a row and play for a 4th?

a) I would be interested in seeing the performance of the original NLE with this
test.  18 units is high. I seem to remember someone testing the original and going
up to 22 units or something. But that is a healthy bankroll.

b) I'd also like to see some testing where you follow the trend. If last was a
triple, then play for a triple. If the last was a double then play for a double.

c) In the realm of stop losses, I notice that methods usually have some large stop loss
with a smaller session win. Like the 20 units and 200 loss. It still seems to me like
the direction of play is backwards. Why not accept smaller losses and have the method
look to winning the larger (inevitable it seems) loss/win.

To do that you may want to be betting the opposite way. Going back to my old "bow and arrow"
analogy, pocketing units of profit does that while the pendulum swings in  your favor.
Banking potential losses the other way when you release the bow.

So the +/- 1 progression is loading a gun to be shot at your head. Accumulating
wins, pulling back the bow, and then releasing the bow to climb the progression ladder.

But going with the flow seems to remove some of this.

[ozon]

I've done 840 units, and then lost the first session -200 units, all BV rng
I do not know if it's lucky. If someone has RX can carry out a simulation on real spins, the results should be even better. RNG usually kills very quickly, this kind of progressions, but not this time.

[mogul397]

I continue to play in this realm. Just posted another post about my activity.

Always looking at the doubles and triples, etc. When I see 3 in a row I bet AGAINST the 4th.
No progressions.

I'm finding patterns where different selections end up working in the short term. Then
maybe not. So having a toolkit in this basic level and determining what is working is the
way to do it. It's kind of intuitive.

Sure there can be more work. But going with what is happening once you see it from the marquis
seems to help. And stay away from the bad pattern of the moment.

[mogul397]

these just played on multi player watching trot +44
21
13
31
10
3
21
8
22
14
35
8
16
15
12
16
10
16
13
17
30
10
22
16
5
14
0
4
9
3
35
8
18
17
23
9
2
19
34
9
31
28
2
24
0
13
8
31
12
7
14
32
10
35
35
30
35
31
17
27
31
pretty fast on there, think theres 28 of the 37 hit
Perhaps the latest celebrity on here could show the workings, 397

How did you get that many triggers with those numbers?

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,

Giving that set of numbers you have posted a cursory look over.  It appears 2 becoming 3 have come out left, right and centre.   The main reason that I switched to 3 becoming 4 was less confusion and less increasing stakes.  This has worked but the by-product of it is less opportunities to bet (and win) but I have increased my unit value.  With 3 becoming 4 it seems to return between 8 and 12 units per 60 spins (about one hour on-line `live` dealer)

Perhaps I will go back to 2 becoming 3 and just throw money at it.

Need to win some money to pay for my up-coming trip to Florida.

Brian

[mogul397]

Good idea if it helps.

But none of the lists of numbers here are from me.

Mostly notto.

[bleep24]

I am feeling sad, lonely and dejected.    No one has added a post to this thread so I thought that I might as well and to jog members (old and new) of the merits of NLE.  I am playing 3 to become 4 version as it is easier to play.  It is still winning for me.  I am using +1/-1 though I have recently read of the merits of The Guetting progression and might compare results using same set of spins.

I keep coming back to NLE because what I find with other systems is that they let you down, or difficult to track and place bets within the short time frame available.   With NLE you can just use history board and keep progression in your head. (3 becoming 4 version)     

With it being a 50/50 chance things should not go awry much.  On the very few occasions that I have lost it was because I ran out of time to keep on playing when I was sure that if I had done so it would have come back as it always had done.

Good luck to all,     Brian

[bigmoney]

Are u covering all ec red black odd even high low

[bleep24]

Hi Bigmoney,

Yes as and when they become 3 bet for to become 4.   Could be 1 ,2 or 3 at same time, but mainly it will be 1.

Brian

[Tekunda]

I am a new user from Germany and have been lurking around for quite a while. I am interested in your NLE system, as I have discovered a more or less similar system in the *PDF file available here on this site with 2000+ systems.
But the system (called Genesis) is less sophisticated than yours.
I have a question though: how exactly do u you play when you say you play all the ecs combined and not separatly? How exactly do you handle the progression?
I assume that you don't have a separate progression for each ec. But what do you do if one ec e. g. has lost 3 times in a row and another ec has lost 2 times in a row and now the third ec lost its first bet? How would your next bet look like progression wise?

[bleep24]

Hi Telunda,

Welcome.  I use a loose +1/-1 progression.   I am combing EC`s so it is not a case of an EC losing 3 times and another EC losing twice.  It is a rolling system.  Generally it will look like this:   2B (lose) 2l (Lose) 3R (Win) 3H (win)  2B (Lose) 2L (lose)  3R (win)     You are moving bet units up and down.  Sometimes you will be betting on 1 EC, other times 2 and others 3.  I allocate how much to bet according to how much I am behind.  eg.  1 unit.  3 opportunities come up together.  I will bet 1 unit on each and adjust my total according to how much I win on those bets.   I may be 3 units behind and 2 opportunities come up together:  I will put 2 units on each so it is not strictly a +1/-1 progression.

Hope this gives you an idea of how it works.  Sometimes I am playing 2 same to become 3: other times I am playing 3 same to become 4. 

Good luck,   Brian

[Tekunda]

Maybe I got confused with '.... not playing each EC separately.' Since I understand that we must play each upcoming EC trigger anyhow, I couldn't understand what exactly means 'not separatly' other than not having a separate progression ladder for each of the EC's.
You seem to combine the amounts of the next necessary progression step and divide it equally between the number of EC triggers you have to play? Is this how you set the amounts for the next step of the progression?
Maybe a real life example would be nice. Sorry for being so thick in my understanding of the system.

[shazwad]

Had a go at this . Although boring, I played 5 sessions for a profit target of 10 units. Won each time so 50 units up. Will give it alot more testing. Highest stake was 8 units.

[bleep24]

Hi Tekunda,

Yes, one bankroll.  You are correct about splitting units over the number of qualifiers.   I mainly play 3 becoming 4 as it is much easier to track and I play with a higher unit value so it probably works out winning same overall as 2 becoming 3 and less confusion, though less qualifiers.

Daft as it may seem and I do not know how to explain it, but I look at spin history to see if 3`s are becoming 4`s in the majority.  If that is so, then I will play (though it can soon change) but with EC`s being a 50/50 outcome you should not get into much trouble anyway.

The reason for playing all qualifying EC`s on a rolling basis is to overcome:  2R  2R  2R 2R 2R etc. which we have all seen.  What we want is : 2R 3L 2B 3O 2L   3E 3H etc. etc.

Good luck,      Brian