NLE mk2

[Tekunda]

I will do a few 'kitchen table' dry runs before testing the NLE life in our local casino (one of the biggest in Europe btw ) in Duisburg, Germany.
I plan to play two ECs at the same time,  but will include the intermittences as well. I will also play the longer series as explained  in the Genesis system.
I will use your staking plan, Brian, which means that the chances are not played separately.
I am looking forward to playing the slightly modified version of the NLE in our local, land-based casino and hope to give you my first updates sometime next week.

[tuddilue]

I will do a few 'kitchen table' dry runs before testing the NLE life in our local casino (one of the biggest in Europe btw ) in Duisburg, Germany.
I plan to play two ECs at the same time,  but will include the intermittences as well. I will also play the longer series as explained  in the Genesis system.
I will use your staking plan, Brian, which means that the chances are not played separately.
I am looking forward to playing the slightly modified version of the NLE in our local, land-based casino and hope to give you my first updates sometime next week.

That we are looking forward to!
Which 2 ECs has you choose?
- Tuddilue

[mogul397]

What I am noticing, and have noticed is this.

When I grab one page or another of data, the data has a profile
that is generally consistent. Out of a trillion different ways of
outcome we can  hone it down to 5 or 10 general ones, like we
try to do. Even for this method, one page

a) won't offer many opportunities.
b) Will most/all be 4+ runs.
c) just keep giving you doubles or  2's that become 3's.

So some games/sessions suck. But if you look at it this way,
then you can read the table and follow what it is doing at that
moment in time. Not get in if it is bad.

The is a bad thing, but a good observation, because if you
look for it, it will give the consistency needed to win.

The following is just an example and not the exact reason for this
posting. But.....

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=12719.0

If you look at this method of finding certain patterns, these
patterns will emerge (or many others) at a certain time. And these
"systems", which will not work all the time, "work" during these times
when the tables are favorable. So all these systems are geared to
filtering out what is happening on a table to qualify the table and
at-the-moment session, which seems to repeat for that moment.

[Tekunda]

That we are looking forward to!
Which 2 ECs has you choose?
- Tuddilue

I have chosen red and black and high and low.

[Tekunda]

Brian, I am already running into a problem with my staking plan. On hi/low my count was - 16 with my next bet at 8 units and at the same time I had to place my first unit on red. (the session started with multiple triggers on hi/low while none occurred on the second EC.)
Then after around the seventh hi/low trigger, red STARTED to come up with its first trigger. With a separate count for both of the ECs,  I would stake 8 units on hi and one unit on red.
But what would you suggest if playing your way? BTW, the running total was - 16 for both ECs, - 16 for hi and +/- 0 for Red. So according to the staking rules I would have to stake 9 units.
How would you divide the 9 units between the two ECs?

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,
How I agree with what you said in your last post.  I have mentioned a couple of times that I look over the spin history to see what is happening.  I do not know how it happens but sometimes you will see long chains other times it will be mainly chops.  It can not be down to DS because dealers have little control over exactly where the ball will land.   Why do these trends occur and continue on.  I have seen sessions where 2 out 3 spins were blacks for up to a hundred spins.

Brian

[DoctorSudoku]

What I am noticing, and have noticed is this.

When I grab one page or another of data, the data has a profile
that is generally consistent. Out of a trillion different ways of
outcome we can  hone it down to 5 or 10 general ones, like we
try to do. Even for this method, one page

a) won't offer many opportunities.
b) Will most/all be 4+ runs.
c) just keep giving you doubles or  2's that become 3's.

So some games/sessions suck. But if you look at it this way,
then you can read the table and follow what it is doing at that
moment in time. Not get in if it is bad.

The is a bad thing, but a good observation, because if you
look for it, it will give the consistency needed to win.

The following is just an example and not the exact reason for this
posting. But.....

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=12719.0

If you look at this method of finding certain patterns, these
patterns will emerge (or many others) at a certain time. And these
"systems", which will not work all the time, "work" during these times
when the tables are favorable. So all these systems are geared to
filtering out what is happening on a table to qualify the table and
at-the-moment session, which seems to repeat for that moment.

Mogul,
Since you referred to that double dozen method that you provided a link to, please note that the author was proposing to increase his bets in the manner 1 1; 2 2; 3 3; 4 4; 5 5; 6 6; etc., etc., until he attained a +1 profit for the series.

In one of his posts, the author did mention that he was playing with a unit size of a quarter.

Do you have access to a roulette wheel or air ball machine that has a minimum betting unit of only a quarter?

Most of us don't. Most of us face minimum betting amounts of $5 or $10.

Let's say you are at the betting stage of 9 9 in the proposed progression. At a $5 minimum table that would amount to placing $45 on each dozen for a total of $90 bet for the next spin.

If it is a $10 table, then that amounts to $90 on each dozen for a total of $180 on the next spin.

Are you ready to do that? Most of us are probably not comfortable with doing that.

Therein lies the problem of progressions like the one proposed. Once you hit a losing streak, your actual betting amounts start spinning out of control in real dollar terms.

[bigmoney]

Hi just wondering about the  bet selection  process  for this method ....
Well mark one method  where u are hoping two of the same becomes three....say if
Red  3 comes up
Red  7

What do you bet on the even chances?
I mean in this case  you could bet
A) RED
B) ODD
C) .1 -18

WHICH WOULD YOU BET ?

[bleep24]

All three.

Brian

[bleep24]

Hi Tekunda,
Not sure what exactly you are playing?   Is it strictly NLE?     Units bet should always be the same.  eg:  2 on B then 2 on L/ 4 on R then 4 on H if they are the qualifiers at the same time for example.  If you need to bet 5 units and 2 qualifiers come up then bet either 2 or 3 on each.
You will note that I said play all 3 EC`s to give variance.  You do not appear to be doing that.  That is why I mainly like 3 becoming 4 as tracking 2 to become 3 is hard and can become confusing.

Cheers,
Brian

[mogul397]

Good doctor,

I'm on the same page with you about what you said in reply #51.

I did not jump to analyze the betting progression too deep. I seem
to start with the flat bet scenario and usually work from there.

I will say one funny thing that I notice about GLC is he's all over the
place with his penny bets and such. There is a piece of that that
effects how you need to look at his posts and methods.

I also had looked and considered how the method would be and look
for betting the missing dozen.  2-1.

But my main point, as bleep agreed with, is that tables seem to run in
certain trends for a time. Identifying them or putting them in a box can
be difficult. And what triggers are used for as entry marks if finding
specific ones to hopefully identify some pattern. Acceptance and belief
in such patterns, I think, could be a mature way of accepting the
reasoning of why we do what we do and why it does or doesn't work.

As Bleep correctly mentioned, he doesn't understand why. Neither do I.

But after decades of hearing the reasoning of this thought and approach
fro Mr C craps business program and the "movie test", maybe I finally
have come of age (at 60) and understand what he meant.

Some table are "two don't". Others are "3 don't". You watch the movie and
see if you like it and want to stay. Roulette has an advantage over craps
cause of the marquis....

[mogul397]

BTW, Doctor, I have the same issue as you mention with NLE.
Not knowing how far I have to go to get a winner.

It is interesting to sit and wait for triggers, but another one is playing
the "same as last turn". If last was a repeat, bet for a repeat, and
if a chop, bet for a chop. That does the same job.

[bleep24]

Hi all,

At the end of the day it is all down to luck and as I have said ( jokingly) you might as well roll a dice to get your choice and will probably do just as well, but we just feel superior using a system/method.

Brian

PS:  We should not get with NLE 2R 2B 2L 2E 2L 2H 2O (Well not very often!!)

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul,

Good idea that.  It means that we should catch the table trend.   (I know that you like/believe in trends)  I will try and remember to put it into practice.

Brian

[bigmoney]

Hi just wondering about the  bet selection  process  for this method ....
Well mark one method  where u are hoping two of the same becomes three....say if
Red  3 comes up
Red  7

What do you bet on the even chances?
I mean in this case  you could bet
A) RED
B) ODD
C) .1 -18

WHICH WOULD YOU BET ?