Devil's street System

[Roulettedevil]

Law

Good question, considering I've yet to lose 50% of BR on any test I've done
But when I do play live I think my aims are to win , between 5-10% of BR , which I think going off past results i don't think is a problem
As for stop/loss
I'm thinking 25% before I'd stop , but like I said with testing, it always seems to recover, 
But we all know what happens in real play

[tuddilue]

I think this is an interesting strategy. I wonder if you have tested some other progressions?

It is really an even chance bet. So one of my favorites are the ladder, here is the progression:
Step 1 = 1-3-2-4
Step 2 = 2-6-4-8
Step 3 = 3-9-6-12
Step 4 = 4-12-8-16

So you move up the ladder when you win and when completing a step you move up to the next step.

If on any step you loose you go back to the first bet on that step.

So for example if you completed the first step and starts on step 2. If you loose you go back to 2 units.

Here is a link to the original thread that talks about the ladder:
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=841.0

- Tuddilue

[Roulettedevil]

Tuddilue

Thanks for your input, I'll have a look at the progression you advise, however i still cannot get my initial Strategy MM to fail me .....YET !

[Roulettedevil]

Dragonara Casino 
Europe/Malta time (04:00 - 07:00)

BR 1000 Units
Target 20%


30 B
34 D

25 A.  +6.   1006
5 B

1. A.   -6.   1006
6 B.   -12.    994

12. D. +18.   1006
0
5. B

9. C  +12    1018
13 A

0 -6.            1012
25 A.  -12.     1000

12. D
7 C

3 A.  +18.     1018
7 C

25. A.    -12.   1006
30. B.    +18.   1024

4 B.  -12.         1012
32.  C. +18.     1030

2 A. +12.      1042
15 A
7 C

21. C. -6.     1036
28 B +12.     1048

20 C. -6.    1042
0.  -12.     1030

34 D
9 C

27 B.  +18.   1048
6 B
20 C

35 D.   +12.   1060
32 C

3 A.    +6.      1066
10 D

30 B.    +6.    1072
25 A

32 C. +6.      1078
25 A

15 A. -6.      1072
30 B +12.   1084

5 B. -6.     1078
18. B -12.  1066

0 -18.        1048
12 D +30.    1078

30 B
21 C

19 C.  -18.    1078
8 C. -30.       1048

1 A
31 C

16 B.  +48.     1096
28 B
29 B
7 C

2 A. +30.    1126
21 C

31 C.   -6.    1120
8 C -12.       1108

2 A
28 B

12 D.   +18.     1126
32 C

12 D. -12.         1114
6 B.   +18.         1132

5 B -12.             1120
24  D -18.          1102

0 - 30.               1072
23 D -48.          1024

4 B
36 D

26 A.  +78.     1102
11 D

12 D.  -48.     1054
5 B.    +78.    1132

34 D. -48.    1084
22 D -78.     1006

19 C
36 D

4 B.    +126.      1132
18 B

27 B
34 D

2 A.       +78.         1210.     Target reached
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[tuddilue]

Tuddilue

Thanks for your input, I'll have a look at the progression you advise, however i still cannot get my initial Strategy MM to fail me .....YET !

Yes if it works why change it?

I always thinks of not having so aggressive progression because that will blow your bankroll.
So the ladder is a more conservative progression that I think would be interesting to test on this strategy.

If this works or others you have more options when starting to play this live.

Start with flatbet -> conservative -> aggressive...
- Tuddilue

[thelaw]

Yes if it works why change it?

I always thinks of not having so aggressive progression because that will blow your bankroll.
So the ladder is a more conservative progression that I think would be interesting to test on this strategy.

If this works or others you have more options when starting to play this live.

Start with flatbet -> conservative -> aggressive...
- Tuddilue

Using the Fibo progression with 20% stop loss, you would need to be able to go 6 steps into it :ex. 1-2-3-5-8-13 (6-12-18-30-48-78 = 192 units=~20% on 1000 unit bankroll) to have a fighting chance to make your 10% or 20% profit before it tanks.

20% stop loss = 1-2-3-5-8-13 (192 units)

30% stop loss = 1-2-3-5-8-13-21 (318 units)

50% stop loss = 1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34 (522 units)

This is all obviously worse case scenario........but better to be safe.

There is no doubt that this progression + bet selection will tank if played through without any brakes, but with proper mm.......maybe a winner.

[Roulettedevil]

Thanks for the advice guys much appreciated, alot more testing to do before I commit to anything, I really want to see my BR disappear in testing mode to , but you know, I have a feeling it could be a while yet.

[Roulettedevil]

Dragonara Casino 
Europe/Malta time (04:00 - 06:30)

BR 1000
Target 20%



30 B
20 C

26 A. +6.    1006
24 D

19 C. +6.   1012
1 A

31 C -6.    1006
30 B +12.   1018

21 C -6.   1012
4 B -12.   1000

23 D +18.  1018
19 C

5 B +12.    1030
8 C

10 D.   +6.     1036
36 D
30 B

25 A.    +6.     1042
17 B

8 C.      +6.    1048
2 A

16 B. +6.    1054
32 C

36 D.  +6.  1060
31 C

10 D -6.   1054
2 A +12.   1066

2 A -6.    1060
22 D -12.  1048

14 A -18.  1030
30 B +30.  1060

28 B -18.   1042
21 D +30.   1072.     Option here to start again new high but I'm testing aggressive play

9 C +18.   1090
20 C
1 A

4 B +6.       1096
9 C

4 B.-6.      1090
14 A +12.  1102

7 C +6.      1108
36 D

19 C -6.    1102
19 C -12.   1090

34 D
0
21 C

26 A.  +18.   1108
15 A
31 C

6 B. +12.    1120
3 A

15 A -6.    1114
34 D +12.   1126

23 D -6.   1120
24 D -12.   1108

18 B
20 C

4 B -18.    1090
24 D +30.  1120

34 D -18.     1102
21 C +30.     1132......... option again!

29 B +18.     1150
36 D

26 A.  +6.   1156
32 C

15 A.  -6.     1150
30 B +12.    1162

14 A -6.        1156
3 A  -12.            1144

11 D
6 B

19 C +18.     1162
6 B

29 B -12.     1150
3 A. +18.     1168.......... option

25 A -6.    1162
19 C +12.   1174

16 B +6.  1180
19 C

26 A.   1186
5 B

11 D.   1192
16 B

29 B -6.    1186
15 A +12.   1198

35 D.   +6.      1204.      TARGET REACHED!
31


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30
24
34
21
21
25
16
35
4
1
16
7
9
29
12
21
21
25
5
35
25
36
5
5
17

[Roulettedevil]

Europe/Malta time (04:00 - 07:25)


BR 1000
Target 20%
Tough set but got there again

35
D
29
B

17
B -6
22
D.   -12.      981

11
D -18.  963
13
A +30.  993

30
B. +18.  1011
11
D

25
A.  +6.    1017
2
A

8
C
27
B

32
C. -6.   1011
15
A. +12.  1023

1
A -6.      1017
13
A -12.   1005

8
B
29
B

10
D
23
D
0
17
B
34
D

18
B -18.      987
24
D -30.      957

29
B -48.    909
36
D -78.    831

32
C.  +126.    957
10
D. 

19
  C.  -78.      879
3
A. +126.       1005

7
. C. -78.         927
24
D.  +126.     1053

27
. A +78.       1131
30
B

21
C.    +6.       1137
12
D

3
A. +6.        1143
26
A

11
D
8
C

26
A.   +6.    1149
25
A

4
B
2
A

1
A.  -6.       1143
23
D. +12.   1155

34
D -6.   1149
27
A  -12.   1137

12
D- 18     1119
15
A. -30.   1089

1
A.  -48.    1041
33
C. +78.    1119

5
. B. +48.    1167
27
A

17
B.   +6.     1173
0
30
B

34
D. 
26
A. 

20
C.      +6.     1179
36
D.     

1
A. 
20
C.      +6.      1185

1
A.      -6.        1179
15
A.    -12.        1167

15
A
13
A

29
B
20
C

3
A.     +18.       1185
27
B

1
A.    -12.          1173
15
A.   -18.         1155

12
D
33
C

32
. C.      -30.      1125
9
C.        -48.       1077

19
C
31
C

31
C
24
D

36
D.   -78.     999
27
B.   +126.   1125

7
C.    +78.      1203
Target reached !!


36
11
17
30
17
23
10
18
28
31
17

[Roulettedevil]

Dragonara Casino 
Europe/Malta time (04:00 - 07:30)

BR 1000
Target 20%

6 B
27 A

20 C
22 D.    +6.    1006

14 A
7 C.    +6.     1012

13. A.   -6.   1006
15. A.   -12.  994

32 C
22 D

20 C.   -18.    976
32 C. -30.     946

26 A
25 A

10 D
13 A

20 C.    +48.      994
10 D

10 D.    -30.       964
32 C.    -48.       916

10 D.    -78.        838
31 C.   -126.       712

18 B.   +204.     916
21 C

0.     -126.         790
26 A. +204.       994

7 C
12 D

2 A.        +126.     1120
2 A

33  C
9 C

1 A
31 C. 

32 C.  -6.           1114
11 D.  +12.       1126

17 B.   +6.         1132
9 C

14 A.     +6.        1138
11 D

2 A.    -6.         1132
24. D.   -12.     1120

35 D. -18.        1102
30 B.  +30.      1132

25 A.   +18.     1150
7 C

22 D.   +6.       1156
12 D

18 B
17 B

29 B
7 C

16 B.   -6.     1150
6 B  -12.        1138

22 D
1 A

2 A.  -18.        1120
8 C.   +30.       1150

0 -18.                1132
3 A -30.            1102

2 A
1 A

26 A
28 B.       

35 D.         +48.        1150
18 B

27 A.       +30.           1180
29 B

31 C.      +6.              1186
29 B

35 D.      +6.              1192
17 B

2 A.        +6.                1198
7 C

12 D.      +6.               1204
9 C
Target reached

[nottophammer]

This is quick reply as another ride down the A1 coming up.

Been running this over the many bookies recorded games i have.
The only problem i see with using it on bookie FOBT, is once start to play this method, the programmers add to the algorithm, so when it recognises the placement of street bets, it will change the algorithm.

Whilst waiting for those going to hospital, i will go in the local bet fred and give it a try.

[Roulettedevil]

This is quick reply as another ride down the A1 coming up.

Been running this over the many bookies recorded games i have.
The only problem i see with using it on bookie FOBT, is once start to play this method, the programmers add to the algorithm, so when it recognises the placement of street bets, it will change the algorithm.

Whilst waiting for those going to hospital, i will go in the local bet fred and give it a try.

I would not advise using on any other form of roulette other than live wheels, I believe,and it's only my opinion that RNG are programmed to give you this false sense of doing well,then boom all of a sudden, you cannot get a win, been there done that many times, no live wheels only for me.

[nottophammer]

No chance to try on Bookies FOBTs yesterday as the NHS had us on the run around,hospital to another hospital.

Flat or Vile gave MMSIP, similar to this idea. But what helps this idea is the speed of the tracking and giving the 18#'s a better spread, streets instead of the double streets. The wait for 4 spins is only 2spins on Devil's street System,

From a relatively small batch of testing 6 steps seems to be the lenght for a win and the Law has posted on this.

Now i don't see this needing any tinkering with as it makes units fast, but watching for 4 spins like AD,DA, then go in is looking promising.

Roulettedevil when in bet mode and from recording you have not seen Mr Green for a while, and you have used 1,2,3 do you consider covering Mr Green for the value of the next bet, so if he should show you would get a win and be able to retrack or rebet?

[Roulettedevil]

Zero to me is just another pocket on the wheel, using this system i count it as a loss on betting and ignore if already won on that line, i have thought of maybe covering on the second bet when looking for b2b wins

[nottophammer]

Yesterday could not give this a try, so on way back from nursing home popped into corals globaldraw.
Now with Laws post i was thinking i'd use £50.00 to stop, using .25p unit, as the old FOBT has a limit of £100.00

To get 200 with the initial £6 stake would need 34 wins, so i think if have 40 spins would have possible 19 bets, so was looking to get 6 wins. As you can see 8 wins,+12. was going to stop at+9.

Said to michelle if could do that all the time be great about 10 minutes.

Well i'm heading to the car and Paddy power is there, yeah come on lets give it try on inspired gaming which always seems harder to win on.

Stick the 3 crisp £20.00 notes in, now here we can see hot and cold numbers plus the zero in last 500 spins, zero was 36 since came in, so with this in mindafter the 2 spins i can start, off to a flyer, then oh dear the run starts, on 4th bet of the run had to cover the bet on zero, well #11 win, So Devil would be in attack mode so 8 unit bet,lose then win, meter not back to start point so attack mode still, 8 unis,then 13 units but remember i'm covering bet for the zero, with 3 units, just as well theres Mr Green. So no bet,still in attack mode so retrack place 8 unit bet and cover for zero, win. +3 for 19 spins.

What a difference between the two shops, but still +15.