@ turbo

[Roulettebeater]

MPR uses a database of real spins my players upload to my wheel analysis server. Its not rng.

oK, what about roulette simulator? is it RNG based?

[nottophammer]

For the past 10 hours+ i've recalcualting and trying every spin Gap there is. Every progression and every bet selection. It Just doesn't Make any sense. Played and looked over More then 10.000 spins from Random.org. i Just can't figure it out, what and how to to play repeaters in a way that at the End we wil Always be in profit. Either way turbo is Just making things up or i'm that stupid. I personaly think neither is true.there must be something i over looked but after working om repeaters for the last couple of months, i think i Will never find the awnser. 1s -) 2s -) 3s -) 4s etc. It Just doesn't Make Nany sense. For now i stop with this repeaters thing, maybe someday i Will retun to it, but my head has so much informatie now that it is hitting and that's not a good signal.

jekhb76 i asked some pages back what does the record sheet members use in a B+M look like. If you post your sheet, members might be able to help as your's might be complicated, the sheet needs to be plain and simple.
Remember i'm a short spins player not high volume like Steve, so the sheet i use will have room for 3 or 4 games on a piece of A4 paper that the B+M dont care that i have  with me.

[Steve]

The short term works fine,you carry on with the big picture

100 players walk into a casino with "short term winning systems". 95% of them win a combined $100,000. 5% of them lose a combined $102,000.

The 95% don't care about long term. All they care about is they profited for the day. Short term works fine for them. They post on forums how they have the HG.

The 5% are back to the drawing board.

The casino doesn't give a f*** who won or lost, just as long as more suckers keep coming in with their "short term winning systems". The occasional winners are important to casinos, so they can convince everyone else the HG exists.

Dont get me wrong. Maybe the HG does exist. It probably does. But it isnt repeaters, cold numbers blah blah. That crap is very well tested. And anyone who properly tested would know what is a waste of time.

[wiggy]

@Jekhb,

Thanks for all your effort and enthusiasm. If you still have the stomach for it, take a look at the following.

link:s://betselection.cc/math-statistics/march-of-the-next-in-line/  (never even got a reply  )

Check out the attachments if you don't understand. It's something to have a play around with and have a think about IMO if you like repeaters.

cheers

[Steve]

STEP 1: Understand "odds" are "how often you win".

STEP 2: Understand "payout" is "how much you are paid".

STEP 3: Understand if the "payout" is lower than the "odds", you are going to lose money eventually. So you need to improve your "odds".

STEP 4: Determine what approaches might change the "odds", and test thoroughly. Understand anything can happen in short term tests. Short term is meaningless. If with your bet selection method, the odds are still no different, repeat this step.

So...... how many people here have actually tested to see if repeaters change the odds?

If you haven't tested your "working principle" to "change the odds", how do you know you aren't deluding yourself?

It doesn't matter how fantastic and elaborate your method of bet selection seems. If your odds haven't changed, you changed nothing. You are still stuck with lower payouts than the odds.

[maestro]

That's not exactly how the house edge works. Anyway leave it at everyone seems to do do great at rs. Not so at mpr. I wonder why.

i do not think so...you better refresh your math

[Steve]

Actually no maestro, the house edge is not exactly based on the amount of players. Maybe you should refresh your math.

[maestro]

hahhaaaha...i will do so...thanks

[jekhb76]

@Jekhb,

Thanks for all your effort and enthusiasm. If you still have the stomach for it, take a look at the following.

link:s://betselection.cc/math-statistics/march-of-the-next-in-line/  (never even got a reply  )

Check out the attachments if you don't understand. It's something to have a play around with and have a think about IMO if you like repeaters.

cheers

Thanks, i saw a list something that also a few years Back, but indeed never understood how to handle it. But Will Have a look again, thnx again.

[jekhb76]

100 players walk into a casino with "short term winning systems". 95% of them win a combined $100,000. 5% of them lose a combined $102,000.

The 95% don't care about long term. All they care about is they profited for the day. Short term works fine for them. They post on forums how they have the HG.

The 5% are back to the drawing board.

The casino doesn't give a f*** who won or lost, just as long as more suckers keep coming in with their "short term winning systems". The occasional winners are important to casinos, so they can convince everyone else the HG exists.

Dont get me wrong. Maybe the HG does exist. It probably does. But it isnt repeaters, cold numbers blah blah. That crap is very well tested. And anyone who properly tested would know what is a waste of time.

Good morning,
Many years ago, around 2010 i got facinated by Turbo Genius and the way  he was thinking. From that day on, i Always tried to Hunt down the Law of the third regarding repeaters, and never stray from the fact that the solution is lying in repeaters. I think i must have Read this posts om various forums over and over again, to try to understand what he was trying to teach. But somehow i Always got stuck and even om to him never got awnsered. Not that i was asking for him to open hg, but to teach me what i was doin' wrong, to this day i'm still waiting for his reply. I think in the past few years, i Have studies every single aproach there is to benifit from repeaters, but never succeded, only left with clues, nothing More. I never understood why he wasn't More open in what he does, Without revailing his secret. Look at the pattern bteaker thread, People are helpng eachother and explaining the way they are playing, Turbo never did, only clues .they All think that it would Harm the roulette world if Have the HG, i don't think so because of the fact, that even if you did Have it, you need to play it by the book for it to be succesful , but you need discipline. Patience and a good money management to succes everytime again. It's a fact that if 100 players got the same hg, only a few would Have succes in playing it , because the rest Will fail die to greed, wrong money management and No patience. The casino would still win over those Who never succeded then the few that do. So i was Always in believe that it won't do Amy Harm if People would reach out and explaining what they are doin' but some would like to keep it to themself or some would Love to feel important in a Forum because of the way they represent themself. Turbo is one of them. He makes himself important because everyone includingyself think he has got the hg, but never given proof of the way he is playing, only charts. Lucky there are a few Who do explaining how they play and some systems work and some don't in the End, but atleast they share.

[jekhb76]

you have done a fantastic job in all your trials..........turbo has demonstrated what no one else on this forum has done ....be it simulator or not no one has done the results he has......keep at it .....its there ......it has to be......just keepontryin

But No one is understanding what he does or how he does it, they are only words and charts. I can do that also, and Make myself important, but why!

[jekhb76]

@Jekhb,

Thanks for all your effort and enthusiasm. If you still have the stomach for it, take a look at the following.

link:s://betselection.cc/math-statistics/march-of-the-next-in-line/  (never even got a reply  )

Check out the attachments if you don't understand. It's something to have a play around with and have a think about IMO if you like repeaters.

cheers

An Old man in the casino once told me that it is better to only play 3s to become 4s nothing More, nothing less, got me thinking last night, what if he was Right, and we are doin' it wrong All the Time. Mmm

[jekhb76]

100 players walk into a casino with "short term winning systems". 95% of them win a combined $100,000. 5% of them lose a combined $102,000.

The 95% don't care about long term. All they care about is they profited for the day. Short term works fine for them. They post on forums how they have the HG.

The 5% are back to the drawing board.

The casino doesn't give a f*** who won or lost, just as long as more suckers keep coming in with their "short term winning systems". The occasional winners are important to casinos, so they can convince everyone else the HG exists.

Dont get me wrong. Maybe the HG does exist. It probably does. But it isnt repeaters, cold numbers blah blah. That crap is very well tested. And anyone who properly tested would know what is a waste of time.

So in other words; Turbo was lying All this time and he does 't Have a hG repeater System? But why would he Talk about it like that for More then 8 years, i don't understand. So it's Exit for repeaters, and we ha e to look at other approces.

[jekhb76]

jekhb76 i asked some pages back what does the record sheet members use in a B+M look like. If you post your sheet, members might be able to help as your's might be complicated, the sheet needs to be plain and simple.
Remember i'm a short spins player not high volume like Steve, so the sheet i use will have room for 3 or 4 games on a piece of A4 paper that the B+M dont care that i have  with me.

I don't use a BM sheet, Just taking notes on the numbers to play repeaters, that's All.

[nottophammer]

Good day Steve, i don't post saying i have an HG for the short term.
As said i only play short term and then move to another wheel in B+M or another bookmakers and use the RNG, which for me is about 99% of the time. To far to travel to B+M.

So why am i not bothered about the long game that you keep spouting on about.
Look at Luck of the Irish, he posted about the LOTT, 18'500'000 spins and the average is 24. Winkel the same shows long run 24,

Now mort's data short game, average for spins 11-40 is 15 non-hit so the average for those repeaters is, yes 15.

If i only play for 60 spins i need to know what goes on. The above is what goes on. 60 spins, oh yes 1 spin at a time, which produce the average of 15 and at spin 60 bookies 30 and mort 29.

We all know about unfair payout and all the other crap you spout.

Thank you