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Started by Steve, Dec 29, 07:00 AM 2016

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cht

Quote from: Steve on May 28, 09:33 PM 2018


I dont know where to start. It ends up in the same place though.

Its your money guys.
Yea you are right. I see the light.

OK I chose to lose!!! 

DUMBfark LOSE, LOSE, LOSE.....LOSER:xd: :xd: :xd:

cht

Quote from: Andre Chass on May 28, 07:17 PM 2018
The wheel has no memory.
Hot numbers, cold numbers ... It's all in your head.
The wheel does not give a crap about it.

The only way to win is to bet that a rare event will not happen.

You can bet on hot or cold numbers as long as the strategy rely on a rare event.

Imho

I have my own strategy but is not so simple like that.
Yes the rare event is that I am a born loser, that's my perfect strategy which gives me a natural negative edge. :thumbsup: >:D :thumbsup: >:D :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Note : Don't believe the rouletesimulator graphs above. The rng is rigged.

Andre Chass

Quote from: Steve on May 29, 12:11 AM 2018
See link:://:.roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy/ - it explains all the common mistakes. Best to carefully read it, unless you don't mind not knowing the truth.

There's a lot more:

FICTION: You can build a system around a “rare event” that you’ll never see in your lifetime
Another common mistake is believing you can use progression to win before a “rare event” happens. It’s incorrect because the odds still haven’t changed. Your perception of a “rare” event is actually something that will eventually happen in enough spins.

For example, you may have never seen these winning numbers in a row: 1,2,3,4,5. But chances are you’ve never seen this sequence either: 32,4,18,9,1. If you see enough spins, they will happen exactly the same amount of times. Each sequence is just as rare as the other.

Another example is expecting you’ll never see 37 different numbers appear in 37 spins. Firstly, it will happen just as often as any other sequence of 37 spins. So why would you favor one group of 37 numbers over another 37 numbers? There is no difference at all. Each spin is independent and with the same odds. It’s exactly the same as expecting to never see four reds in a row (RRRR). It may occur less often than a mixed sequence like BRRB or RBRB, but the odds of any specific sequence happening are exactly the same. So thinking one sequence is more rare than another is delusion.

Put another way, imagine waiting many years to see the spin sequence 1,2,3,4,5. It seems really rare, and you bet that #6 wont spin next. But actually the odds of #6 spinning next are the same as any other number.  Run some proper simulations and you’ll see no matter how you play it, you cannot change your odds by betting that rare events wont happen.

Let's assume you've never seen this sequence since you started playing roulette: 1,2,3,4,5. And let's assume that the sequence 1,2,3,4,5,6 has never happened since roulette was invented. The casino owner comes to you and says, Steve, you can choose a number that you think will not hit. If that number does not hit I'll give you $ 1000,000,000. What number would you choose? If you choose 6 and that number hits you will be in the Guinness book being the most unlucky guy in the history of casinos.

Another example:

Would you choose bettng after RR or after RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR?

Please be honest
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

The General

Quote from: Andre Chass on May 29, 01:22 AM 2018
Let's assume you've never seen this sequence since you started playing roulette: 1,2,3,4,5. And let's assume that the sequence 1,2,3,4,5,6 has never happened since roulette was invented. The casino owner comes to you and says, Steve, you can choose a number that you think will not hit. If that number does not hit I'll give you $ 1000,000,000. What number would you choose? If you choose 6 and that number hits you will be in the Guinness book being the most unlucky guy in the history of casinos.

Another example:

Would you choose bettng after RR or after RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR?

Please be honest

Well, let's look at the wheel and count the number of pockets on it after having just witnessed the event.


Are there still 37 pockets on it in which the ball can land? (38 on double zero wheel.) And don't the number of pockets on the wheel determine the odds of winning?
If so, then why would RR be more or less likely than BB or RB or BR to hit?  :o
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Steve

Andre, I would bet #7 because it is possible, however unlikely, that the wheel is rigged to create such a sequence (perhaps the casino owner is crooked, with magnetic wheels, and makes patterns like that for kicks). But if it were rigged for that, then it would be just as likely that the casino makes the ball avoid #7. But if I knew the wheel was fair, I'd know it wouldn't really matter what number I bet.

If the sequence was RRRRR etc like you described, I would bet R for similar reasons as above, except that there is a small chance that the red numbers are biased. But again if I knew the wheel was fair and unbiased, then I'd know it wouldnt make a difference because the odds havent changed.

I would not bet 7 or Red for the same reasons most players here would (some magical reason that doesnt really exist).

In any case, I would look at cause and effect. Most systems base predictions on fallacy - patterns that dont really exist.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

cht

More loser graphs fresh from the oven specially for the graph lovers !!!

I can produce this graphs all day long. I was born to lose. >:D :twisted: >:D :twisted: >:D :twisted:

The General




CHT,



Are you sure you're following the "trot?" 
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

cht

Quote from: The General on May 29, 01:48 AM 2018


CHT,



Are you sure you're following the "trot?"
KFC !!!

cht

Forget about the graphs. Bored just having fun.   ;D

jekhb76

Not too many numbers, good bet selection and not forget; Agressive Progression! What can go wrong?

Steve

Absolutely nothing jek. Youre on easy street now. :thumbsup:

"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Andre Chass

Quote from: Steve on May 29, 08:34 AM 2018
Absolutely nothing jek. Youre on easy street now. :thumbsup:



Lol..

Negan says it's easy...
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: The General on May 29, 01:48 AM 2018


CHT,



Are you sure you're following the "trot?"

The general... You're the funniest guy here... Lol
Keep posting funny things... Lol
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

nottophammer



Andre, you and the other two idiots make me laugh, Muttley do something
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

IVO

Quote from: Scarface on May 28, 12:57 PM 2018
Of course I mean reduce negative variance.  If positive variance is on my side, I ride it out as long as I can!  If my numbers keep hitting, I keep playing.

If numbers stop hitting, I switch to the most recent hotties, or repeaters.  Switching will never produce the losses you talked about earlier.  Look at any set of set of samples and you will see.

Who's to say I don't have an edge?  I may not know why a certain group of numbers are hot.  Sure it could be just probability.  Or something else, along the lines to temporary bias via dealer signature or wheel defect.  I don't really care why...as long as it works. 

You're obviously good at math.  But think outside the box.  I think more about sessions, not individual hits.  Not looking for 1 hit to put me back in the positive.  If you can reduce variance, you can beat this game.  Think about the simple example I gave: if you can get 1 hit on average for every 5 spins betting a dozen...this could be easily won with not much of a progression. The math equation says no, but using simple logic says yes

Hi Scarface, I would like to ask which progression you recommend in this example please? Thx

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