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The General · Sep 17, 03:17 PM 2018

Quote from: Kairomancer on Sep 17, 02:49 PM 2018It is called short term positive expectation.

Nope. Running an up as you lose progression doesn't change the odds. It's just merely borrowing from the future in order to chase losses.

Nimo · Sep 17, 03:20 PM 2018

Quote from: The General on Sep 17, 03:17 PM 2018
Nope. Running an up as you lose progression doesn't change the odds. It's just merely borrowing from the future in order to chase losses.

Who said they are all up as lose progressions? In that chart I showed you earlier, it's up as a win.

Madi · Sep 17, 03:33 PM 2018

Quote from: Nimo on Sep 17, 03:20 PM 2018
Who said they are all up as lose progressions? In that chart I showed you earlier, it's up as a win.

Nimo
Dont take him seriously. He deactivated all of his social media account and come here fun.

Madi · Sep 17, 03:35 PM 2018

Quote from: The General on Sep 17, 03:17 PM 2018
Nope. Running an up as you lose progression doesn't change the odds. It's just merely borrowing from the future in order to chase losses.

General
In real life borrow from future works just fine. Move ur head around

Nimo · Sep 17, 03:41 PM 2018

Quote from: Madi on Sep 17, 03:33 PM 2018
Nimo
Dont take him seriously. He deactivated all of his social media account and come here fun.

I don't take him or Steve seriously. They have nothing of real value to offer anymore. I just want to make sure others don't follow all they preach and sometimes put them in their place for being bullies at times.

Kairomancer · Sep 17, 03:44 PM 2018

Quote from: The General on Sep 17, 03:17 PM 2018
Nope. Running an up as you lose progression doesn't change the odds. It's just merely borrowing from the future in order to chase losses.

Correct.
Having positive expectation to hit your number as you increase your bets in a given frame is what tilt the odds.
You win because you strongly expect it to a degree that you even confident enough to place progressively larger bets.

I know it sounds like a radical concept, yet it is what happens in real life.

luckyfella · Sep 17, 03:48 PM 2018

The usual rubbish. AP, roulette computer guys are desperately arguing that system players cannot win

For the readers info, systems play can and do win at roulette consistently. Don't let those dark side guys twist this around to rob you off the correct facts.

Having said that, it certainly also mean that most systems posted on forums don't fall in that category of systems play. You got to be realistic, it's not that easy

Turner · Sep 17, 03:50 PM 2018

Quote from: Kairomancer on Sep 17, 03:44 PM 2018
Correct.
Having positive expectation to hit your number as you increase your bets in a given frame is what tilt the odds.
You win because you strongly expect it to a degree that you even confident enough to place progressively larger bets.

I know it sounds like a radical concept, yet it is what happens in real life.

Let me guess the reply:

Learn a little basic probability
Study the history of the game
Post a gif of Mike Ehrmantraut shaking his head

RouletteGhost · Sep 17, 03:53 PM 2018

LOL!

Kairomancer · Sep 17, 04:09 PM 2018

Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 17, 03:48 PM 2018
The usual rubbish. AP, roulette computer guys are desperately arguing that system players cannot win

For the readers info, systems play can and do win at roulette consistently. Don't let those dark side guys twist this around to rob you off the correct facts.

Having said that, it certainly also mean that most systems posted on forums don't fall in that category of systems play. You got to be realistic, it's not that easy

I used to believe that you cannot win as a system player because of maths.
Now I have a deeper realization that it is within reach to win despite the odds and probability. It was just a limited viewpoint.

Using your mind is a skill that can influence your results.

Kattila · Sep 17, 04:43 PM 2018

The General s friend

Madi · Sep 17, 05:04 PM 2018

Guys anyone can suggest where i can practice live roulette spin for free just like RS. Not interested in RX. Something else. Thanks

The General · Sep 17, 05:06 PM 2018

Quote from: Madi on Sep 17, 05:04 PM 2018
Guys anyone can suggest where i can practice live roulette spin for free just like RS. Not interested in RX. Something else. Thanks

Yes, I've got a gazillion of them with dates etc.

The General · Sep 17, 05:08 PM 2018

Quote from: Kairomancer on Sep 17, 04:09 PM 2018
I used to believe that you cannot win as a system player because of maths.
Now I have a deeper realization that it is within reach to win despite the odds and probability. It was just a limited viewpoint.

Using your mind is a skill that can influence your results.

I wonder why it is that you, well really none of you, can beat the MPR?

Why do you suppose that is,?

Moxy · Sep 17, 05:22 PM 2018

Quote from: The General on Sep 17, 05:08 PM 2018
I wonder why it is that you, well really none of you, can beat the MPR?

Why do you suppose that is,?

Do you have a dog in the fight, General? It's not your money is it? Or are you looking for something yourself? If I challenge you would it help my case with Steve?

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