@ turbo

[nottophammer]

Hello Steve; where's my data?

[nottophammer]

Oh look 1/37 spins.



Keep selling the phone

[nottophammer]

Had a great set of 1/37 spins earlier, but i'll keep those for next reply 

[Steve]

Notto, your charts is your "data".

So instead of answering basic questions, you take it personally. I'll ask again:

What do you think of statistician would say about your data? Do you know why? Would you call them names for that?

I'm sure you understand my point, which is your charts would be much the same with random bet selection. The results are indistinguishable from random bets.

You and the "others' call us "naysayers". Are we naysayers, or are we just people that understand basic probability?

Why arent you testing with spins that apear most credible (random.org) and use RX? And test significant amounts of spins.

[nottophammer]

Last time i collected from the Great random.org   ()
So 730 sets of 148 numbers. Gives this; just like the result of the expert mate of yours; star burst spins.







Those averages are all you need to know.
They happen all the time.


Now the above is R-sim



The little graph gives profit for repeat; but you don't panic; what do they say; oh yeah it can't lose.



And as you see doubled the profit, no problem what so ever.







So you see the numbers came in your 1/37 style; but just look the same as any other game.

Random.org; R-sim's RNG, the Generals star burst; you just need to be able to see what the non-hit are showing

I don't need RX to test millions of spins i can see what is going to happen in 60 spins; not 60'000 spins.

Over to you and your what would scenario

[Steve]

Your talk of averages shows you dont understand the math. Its like saying on average, there will be around the same amount of reds/blacks.

I mean so what? You cant use that in any way. Its like waiting for 60% of spins being black, then betting red because you expect the average eventually. It IS fallacy. You can understand the red/black example because its super basic, but you dont understand non hits, repeaters, etc are all fallacy just as bad.

Your proof of concept is short term data that suits your theory. The bigger picture, which has been tested far more than you can imagine, clearly shows what i explain. Its not an opinion. Its not being a naysayer. Its just the reality. And you are wasting your time. You are not understanding it. You are being misled by short term data, so just keep testing and when the results dont meet expectations, you may better understand something isn't being understood. But ffs use rx and test with reputable spins. Not rs, its not a serious tool to test. Its for entertainment.

If you want the truth notto, you will find it. But dont turn a blind eye to it just because you dont like the messenger .

[nottophammer]

Just follow the trot.
26-1-19  got 8 numbers in 1st 10 spins; I; and only I; need to know that in spin 11-40 on average, 15 more non-hit; hit, result spin 40; 23 non-hit; 15 came.

27-1-19; gave 9/10; so 9 +15=24; so should see 24 non-hit by spin 40 and we got 25

28-1-19; gave 8/10 you know the next part; so we should or could see 23non-hits; oh look 23 have hit.


It's just an average game.

[nottophammer]

If you want the truth notto, you will find it. But dont turn a blind eye to it just because you dont like the messenger .

But the messenger don't help, perhaps you are blind.
I'll do a you; i don't need to carry this conversation on any further, wasting my time.
Have a good sleep.

[Steve]

Just follow the trot.

A player's version of the "trot" could be "RBRBRBRBR" then they bet B. Then they give lots of short term test results (with likely unrealistic spins), that indicate following the trot works.

Another player says BBRRBBRR is the real trot. Then they give lots of short term test results (with likely unrealistic spins), that indicate following the trot works.

Someone with experience tries to explain why both theories are wrong, and that it has been tested far beyond the little tests being done by the above people.

The players say "you are blind" and "wasting my time".

Really Notto, it is your time. I spend a lot less time trying to help than you spend chasing your tail. I'm trying to help you but clearly you'll need to learn yourself. I just really, really have a problem with someone walking repeatedly into a wall while they insist "I got this". I don't understand it. It reduces my faith in people because they willfully are so ignorant. It's on the same level as flat Earthers. You dont see yourself as a flat Earther, but you're one of many.

Being uneducated and unknowledgeable is one thing. We all go through stages like this. But for some people, it lasts a lifetime and they never really progress - not because of their intelligence, but mostly because of their attitude. Some are super slow even when trying. Some learn quicker. It took me a few years to get my head out of my ass. For me it was a stubbornness thing. But when I understood it, I understood I was being stubborn against reality. It wasnt going to change just because I really really wanted it to. It just is what it is. You either understand and accept it, or not. Telling me its all about the trot and that Im just a naysayer wont change the end result.

[nottophammer]

Okay; let’s look at this random game, LOL. Nothing to worry about; by spin 20 we should really have had 4 repeats. You can see we got 1 repeat in spins 1-10; 11-20; again 1 repeat. So this is how a game should unfold. The larger of the two groups, non-hit and repeats; non â€"hit are hitting; like the larger group should; even with a 1/37 spin scenario

[nottophammer]

Again; by spin 30 should see 9 repeats. I’ll bracket this part (Here you should have a game of 50/50; Repeats should be hitting; you see we’ve gone from 2 repeats, too 7 repeats) the 50/50 is happening in these 10 spins.
Now if the average is true; spins 1-10 had 9 non-hit’s; so if you believe the average from the various posted time tables, we should see 15 more non-hit’s by spin 40 making 9+15=24; 24 non-hit by spin 40.
The laughable LOTT; but is it laughable? Above you have 30 spins, 7 more to get to the cycle of 37, how many non-hits have hit so far?

[nottophammer]

Okay, profit; not great, but those repeats came. We’ve not finished the game, yet. Spin 39 has profit from a Turbo idea. How many repeats have happened now? Answer 15. There’s still 1 spin. Repeats show their ugly head’s at a possible rate of 1-3-5-7; 16 over the 40 spins.
So by keeping watch of the non-hit the larger starting group, we’re at a 50/50 point; but with profit, why not re-set.

[nottophammer]

So another repeat. 16 repeats; so 24 non-hit

Happens all the time.

[nottophammer]

count, what is the usual for 60 spins?  are they not 50/50?

Just another 1/37 of the same old average.

Goodnight Saint Steve

[Steve]

Earth is flat. Just look at the horizon. Flat.

Its not funny notto. Thats your level of understanding.