@ turbo

[Madi]

Yes, the Turbo cult evaporated once the cheating scam was exposed.

Wrong . They r still there doing great.

U r the one who is living in dole after the broken is on museum.
Seriously only the  junkies can think of broken wheel now a days.🤪

[The General]

Wrong . They r still there doing great.

U r the one who is living in dole after the broken is on museum.
Seriously only the  junkies can think of broken wheel now a days.🤪

Nope.  None of the Turbo cult members have a significant score/ranking on the roulette sim or on this forum. 

However, I am still marvelous!

[Madi]

Nope.  None of the Turbo cult members have a significant score/ranking on the roulette sim or on this forum. 

However, I am still marvelous!

U dont need turbo follower. Any of the player scoring millions proves that there system works and dont need any junk wheel.

All systems are not turbo system and its not necessary for all to play turbo system

[The General]

U dont need turbo follower. Any of the player scoring millions proves that there system works and dont need any junk wheel.

All systems are not turbo system and its not necessary for all to play turbo system

Nope.  None of you are winning dirt since Bago exposed Turbo.

[Madi]

Nope.  None of you are winning dirt since Bago exposed Turbo.

U r free for ur opinion. But fact remains the same. Notto will keep winning, people will keep placing u in block list nd last of all junk wheel remain in museum or in bin. Doesnt matter the amount of vodka .....

[Bebediktus3]

Notto will keep winning

I do not know who keeps winning, who not, but I met about 10 persons in live and maybe more in skype conferences and nobody showed in meetings what they claimed in forum talks...

For turbo I also that suggested, he of course not accepted and I think is clear - why.

If man post thousands of posts in forums, spent thousand hours in them, trying to show how smart he is, but can't spend an hour or so in real time to show that he really can win, I think, talk much and very clear who he is....

[The General]

U r free for ur opinion. But fact remains the same. Notto will keep winning, people will keep placing u in block list nd last of all junk wheel remain in museum or in bin. Doesnt matter the amount of vodka .....

Notto doesn't win dirt either.  Just look at his curve fit graphs. 

[The General]

Madi,

By the way, blocking knowledge and posters that are vastly more experienced that you guys are is pretty stupid.

[nottophammer]

Notto doesn't win dirt either.  Just look at his curve fit graphs. 

General, i win, i eat KFC. You must be as thin as fu-ck living off wobbly wheels.

[Madi]

I do not know who keeps winning, who not, but I met about 10 persons in live and maybe more in skype conferences and nobody showed in meetings what they claimed in forum talks...

For turbo I also that suggested, he of course not accepted and I think is clear - why.

If man post thousands of posts in forums, spent thousand hours in them, trying to show how smart he is, but can't spend an hour or so in real time to show that he really can win, I think, talk much and very clear who he is....

Why should someone prove their system in ur kitchen?  If u met 10 junki nd none of them winning , whats wrong with that?

R u the certified body so that someone need to test infront of u and pass it?

[Madi]

Madi,

By the way, blocking knowledge and posters that are vastly more experienced that you guys are is pretty stupid.

Where did u find knowledge? I can see just a pure junk.

Broken wheel now a days. Huh!!
Someone collect data from casino to casino , do a chi test . Ureka. Broken wheel alert!!

U know what , government should stop paying cash , instead they should put the money in card only can be used in food store. No cash out.

Too much VODKA

[Steve]

Madi, where is turbo and his followers on the rs leaderboard?

Dont you think its suspicious turbo chose to brag about his system on parx (which is rigged), and rs (which had a cheating loophole)?

Don't you think its odd now that the rs cheating loophole is fixed, that turbo cant rank anymore?.. especially considering he says he NEVER loses.

Don't you think its odd turbo left mpr when he started losing, then said it was because I might steal his system, but instead played at rs where sessions can be replayed like a video recording?

Notto isn't winning either. On mpr he has multiple accounts. He abandons accounts once they are losing. Anyone can appear like they're winning if they highlight only winning accounts.

There's much more. Don't be so gullible.

[Steve]

And you not liking Caleb doesn't change what works and what doesn't.

Bias is still more viable than you think. Albeit only realistically viable imo with a network of educated scouts. Besides he made clear he plays vb too.

What do you think casinos are more afraid of... repeaters, or AP? Why?

And ironically, the only circumstance where repeaters would threaten casinos is with heavy bias. But still tracking repeaters would be a very poor approach.

[Taotie]

I told you guys from the very beginning that RS could be cheated, and I've been messing around a bit on RS lately and suspect there is still a way to cheat....stay tuned for that one.

AP guys, can't you just let adult forum members go about their roulette journeys regardless of your seemingly superior informed knowledge and opinions? The vast majority of active members are mature adults who can make their own life decisions without constant and unrelenting criticism. It's like you guys have to fill in a blank hour or two of your lives every now and then in order to justify your existence to others. 

We get it that there are occasional newbies coming and going that could get fleeced by scammers, but the vast majority of those at risk will already be protected somewhat by the many experienced members on the forums. You don't need to worry about them, or anyone else for that matter. Besides, true scammers are few and far between.

Why not share your AP knowledge in a positive manner. Encourage further learning and promote the physical aspects of the game through friendly negotiation. It might not altogether work but it will not fail completely as it has done so far.

[Steve]

Taotie, say someone deliberately misleads inexperienced players. Should more experienced players call bullshit, and explain details?

What if the bullshitter is incredibly persistent and gullible people are falling for it? Should we back off and allow inexperienced people to be fooled, just because it might annoy people?

My view is strong bullshit should be met with at least equally persistent opposition. It will annoy some people, and others will appreciate it. The people interested in the truth, without delusion,  are higher priority.

Keep in mind I've had complaints from readers who lost money from bullshit they read here. Yes they weren't bright but but it sure doesn't help to stifle advice from experienced players.

Now if an inexperienced player is unintentionally misleading people, shouldn't experienced players speak up?

The system player board allows system players to discuss their theories etc without experienced players speaking up. Outside that area, experienced players can and do speak up when they see bullshit. Rightfully, for a productive forum. If they don't want to use it, they shouldn't complain when someone with an opposing view speaks up.

I get your point. You're referring more to trolling. An astronaut on a flat earth forum would be so over the bullshit that it would appear like trolling. He would have tried logic, math, reasoning, being nice... And they still don't get it. They end up being brash. They will be attacked. Then they may react by having a dig at their attackers. They're human too.

There are exceptions. Speaking for myself, if I see bullshit and it's likely to mislead many people,  I'll say something if I have time. I see bullshit all the time here and on other forums. I mostly don't bother. I am often direct and can appear offensive. Its not malicious. I'm persistent because stupidity and ignorance annoys me, and I'm genuinely trying to help. I don't like reading earth is flat and the flat horizon is proof.