@ turbo

[probasah]

also does anyone know what the best progression is? +1 or 1-2-4-etc or 1-5-25

777, forget the progressions. Let them go. I know its difficult (we all have been there)
Use flat bet only.

Regards,
Alex

[cht]

CHT,
Well it has to be TG since he uses the lowest numbers and the highest progression.

but are all of you playing the same way?

No. There's winkel, vaddis grail, tg, notto, denzie, probasah......your choice based on your risk appetite.

Cht, you say min 3 max 6, but some starts with one number. Alex you have tested a lot of cycles where do you start? with one number?the biggest question is still how to select the 3-6 numbers what do you do when you have 9 x2 numbers in the first cycle?

Betselection. Look at the roulette wheel.

also does anyone know what the best progression is? +1 or 1-2-4-etc or 1-5-25

As probasah stated many times, flat bet. If you don't see profit, go back to betselection.

if anyone would care to share, it would be much appreciated.

PS I get profit with flatbeting but have only tested 50 cycles. would love to improve the big dd

If you experience big dd, go back to betselection.

[777]

thanx for the replies Cht and Alex.

I have +485 units in 50 Cycles. Flat bet. this is by only betting first cycle. biggest dd -124 on one cycle.
em i too lucky or do i have the right selection?

[probasah]

Good evening, all

It was my pleasure to help you out. It is kind of funny as it all started with something to get my mind occupied and some coding background. I tested 100+ methods in the past. All failures. I was thinking that its so funny to see so many failures, all complicated methods to reach the same result. Like David against Goliath.
I persevered. Sleepless nights coding, reading, testing.  And then it struck me. What if.... and it finally worked.
If i know one thing is this life is that i made a couple of people happy tonight. And gave them hope. That to me is priceless.
To all that are new to this approach..
Please do not buy any systems online or roulette computers as they are worthless.
They are only after your money.
All you need to know is in this thread. Save it offline for further use. as it can be deleted.

I want to know where all the AP gurus are hiding now? Where are all the system salers now. What are they doing now?
Never mind them.

Like Shakespeare used to say... The rest is silence.

With all my love and sincerity,
Alex

[cht]

thanx for the replies Cht and Alex.

I have +485 units in 50 Cycles. Flat bet. this is by only betting first cycle. biggest dd -124 on one cycle.
em i too lucky or do i have the right selection?

You're on the right track. Improve your betselection, you'll get a lot luckier.

[romano0327]

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[romano0327]

Alex, I sent you a Pm.

[cht]

Good evening, all

It was my pleasure to help you out. It is kind of funny as it all started with something to get my mind occupied and some coding background. I tested 100+ methods in the past. All failures. I was thinking that its so funny to see so many failures, all complicated methods to reach the same result. Like David against Goliath.
I persevered. Sleepless nights coding, reading, testing.  And then it struck me. What if.... and it finally worked.
If i know one thing is this life is that i made a couple of people happy tonight. And gave them hope. That to me is priceless.
To all that are new to this approach..
Please do not buy any systems online or roulette computers as they are worthless.
They are only after your money.
All you need to know is in this thread. Save it offline for further use. as it can be deleted.

I want to know where all the AP gurus are hiding now? Where are all the system salers now. What are they doing now?
Never mind them.

Like Shakespeare used to say... The rest is silence.

With all my love and sincerity,
Alex

The advantage lies with the coders. We're able to build models to accurately test them. And do that fast and repeatedly.

To some extent, I believe this has to do with the physical aspects of the wheel, there's some connection not some out and out system without any possible cause behind it aithough Idk what that is or how to explain it.

[probasah]

The advantage lies with the coders. We're able to build models to accurately test them. And do that fast and repeatedly.

To some extent, I believe this has to do with the physical aspects of the wheel, there's some connection not some out and out system without any possible cause behind it aithough Idk what that is or how to explain it.

cht, for the last 3 days i am a zombie. I am testing the method extensively to see to find faults. There is none. My 5 year old kid told me today, daddy you look like an old man . "old!"
Funny thing life is.. memories flow through..
Then it all comes back like a river ...
All those years i was looking in the wrong direction. Maybe a lot of system creators were not aware of the faults with progressions and side bets and useless patterns. Its not their fault, i dont have anything with them.
I do however have everything against all the scammers and system sellers and roulette computer experts that have played the card of deceit for so many years.
They exploited the others for money benefits. That is absolutely intolerable to me.
Where are they now? WHERE ARE YOU? All the gurus and experts, where are you now? Come here and defend yourself. You can`t because you were all liars! Shame with you all.
I look in the mirror now and i am so proud of what i have done.
Believe me or not i really did not start this to get rich. My income is more than enough through my day job. To support a family, etc.
I have done coding in the past for unknown people all over the world. all for free, as it was good enough for me to think someone is thinking good about me.
Today i give you all the good news: flat bet works, winning on the long run works. all info is right here in this thread.
I know already 4 people already that have seen it. im sure more of them are already smiling out there in the world.

Remember what you have is yours to keep. Remember to help others as you have been helped.

Wish you all the best,
Alex

[romano0327]

Alex, I exceed the pm, its 5 per hour, I havent been able to reply...

[probasah]

Alex, I exceed the pm, its 5 per hour, I havent been able to reply...

Guys, for all that want to contact me my email is probasah@gmail.com. Im not there 24 hours ,its past midnight now.  The PM is full already

Alex

[cht]

Yea, you've done a good job on this thread. If not for you, I'm not aware about it, I don't read threads btw, at most the 1st few post to get an idea.

Your promptings got interested me to spend some time today to look at it in detail, your summary of posts was a good thing that saved me time to readup the entire thread.

Anyway, all the info is here. I'm sure some others who gone through this thread gets it, just that they didn't post comments, know that they're thanking you.

[vladir]

Guys, has anyone tried out Nickmsi spreadsheet? Take a look if you have not, extend it beyond 37.

What spreedsheet exactly? I dint find any here by nickmsi, on this topic.

[cht]

What spreedsheet exactly? I dint find any here by nickmsi, on this topic.

Post#42 - Outside the box - "Let's try again"     
thread. Random numbers, hits, repeaters, expected value and variance for 37spins - it can be expanded.

[denzie]

I know someone's inbox gonna go kabooooom