@ turbo

[falkor2k15]

As I know there are 3 ways to bet on repeats notwithstanding unsubstantiated variance avoidance claims:

1) Parallel streams:
Number: X,X,X,X,X
Position: Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y

You need values from both streams (X,Y) in order to be able to improve accuracy of predictions. And the predictions must be based around a repeats (or other non-random) framework.

2) Bet on-behalf of the number repeats, say, using Corners, and therefore with a cheaper investment (positions, i.e. selecting only those singles from the last 18 also helps):


3) Control the variance over several successive cycles - complicated but better than trying to avoid variance without any process in place.

[probasah]

As I know there are 3 ways to bet on repeats notwithstanding unsubstantiated variance avoidance claims:

1) Parallel streams:
Number: X,X,X,X,X
Position: Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y

You need values from both streams (X,Y) in order to be able to improve accuracy of predictions. And the predictions must be based around a repeats (or other non-random) framework.

2) Bet on-behalf of the number repeats, say, using Corners, and therefore with a cheaper investment (positions, i.e. selecting only those singles from the last 18 also helps):


3) Control the variance over several successive cycles - complicated but better than trying to avoid variance without any process in place.

As I know there are 3 ways to bet on repeats notwithstanding unsubstantiated variance avoidance claims:

1) Parallel streams:
Number: X,X,X,X,X
Position: Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y

You need values from both streams (X,Y) in order to be able to improve accuracy of predictions. And the predictions must be based around a repeats (or other non-random) framework.

2) Bet on-behalf of the number repeats, say, using Corners, and therefore with a cheaper investment (positions, i.e. selecting only those singles from the last 18 also helps):


3) Control the variance over several successive cycles - complicated but better than trying to avoid variance without any process in place.

Falkor,

That is not the way! Dont bet corners and other BS, just repeaters. You dont control variance you flow with it... You flat bet it
There is no progression no complicated patterns, jesus!
Stop reinventing the wheel!

Alex

[Taotie]

@ turbo,

Congratulations. lol 

[falkor2k15]

You dont control variance you flow with it... You flat bet it

There's 2 ways of flowing with variance - positive or negative - but if that worked then everyone would already be winning with Martingale methods. Allow me to explain:
Red vs. Black = 50/50.

If there was no variance then R/B would behave like this:
RBRBRBRBRBRBRBRB

Let's say there was a slight variance, then it might be like this:
RRBBRRBBRRBBRRBB

Or like this:
RRRBBBRRRBBBRRRBBB

In the 3rd scenario, we have a negative and positive way to bet progressively:
Negative/Martingale: bet on R and if lose then double up till win. Since the variance is only small, we would always win without reaching table limits.

Positive/Surf the wave: Wait for a virtual win on Red, bet Red to win again then double up once only.

Both methods are really nothing more than a positive/negative Martingale system that always loses since real variance isn't so tame:

This sequence kills the above negative progression on B:
BBRBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRBRBBR 

This sequence kills the above positive progression:
RBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBR

This problem applies to all bet selections, including hot/cold numbers.

However, the "funny sequences" topic showed there is a way to control variance over successive cycles that may or not help tame variance and provide a winning method:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18814.0

The above creates a butterfly effect, so if converting sequences into combinations like Cycle Lengths and Orders, the variance of those becomes dependent on the variance of High and Low.

[probasah]

136286 Posts in 10397 Topics by 2799 Members.
How funny is it it took 136 thousand posts in this forum to get to resolution!!!

Steve for the sake of all you can delete this thread as it is clearly the end of roulette as we know it.
We can then go back to our useless discussions about patterns an magic systems...

Alex

[falkor2k15]

Like someone said.....It's all the same....Repeaters,  non hits , ktf , gut....It uses the same stuff each on there own way.
Just like probasah ain't playing as TG at all. But he does got the idea for it. Just as there is more than one way to play a certain idea

If this really worked then Notto wouldn't be telling us to take the first profit - even if only +1!

[Taotie]

Falkor,

Often as difficult as it is to understand your ideas and postings, I appreciate your long standing conviction.

probasah on the other hand, you need to take a step back and stop being so childishly fanatical about something you just discovered 3 days ago.

It really is absurd behaviour.

[boyd30]

Steve, Probasah ain't selling something. I wrote to him and he replied.I still don't understand all about repeaters but I believe it's one of the best ways to bet.

[probasah]

Falkor,

Often as difficult as it is to understand your ideas and postings, I appreciate your long standing conviction.

probasah on the other hand, you need to take a step back and stop being so childishly fanatical about something you just discovered 3 days ago.

It really is absurd behaviour.

You are right, Taotie.
I am a bit fanatical about it. Imagine how would you behave if you would find life on another planet/ a infinite renewable energy source / the cure for ageing / things like that. How would you behave?
It really amazes me how people take the superficial part of things.
I could have kept my mouth shut and just enjoy the average talks, see people fail over and over again, being scammed by system sellers, etc.. you get the picture.
I am not the first nor will i be the first  to see the truth from the lies.
I hope you all succeed in your searches. I really do.

What started as a play 7 years ago finished for me 4days ago. The impossible became possible.
You may not see it as much, for me it was just another intelectual battle won.
I will probably not even use this thing for me in the future as it is not a challenge for mevanymore.
The more i try to get the others see the light for themselves, the more i feel that is a battle i will never win.
I just hope that those few that will make it, will see  the truth behind the lies.

I will not get rich with this guys, it was never about that for me. Please stop accusing me of trying to mislead people to take advantage.
To make it easier for you all, just forget that i ever was here.
Life continues with or without the roulette HG.
And will continue with and without probasah.
That being said, thank you all for your messages, the thank you's that i get in my inbox value more for ME than donald trump's millions.
I have been a zombie the last days fighting against impossible odds. I won. That is all that matters.
Even if i made 1 person life better, IT WAS ALL WORTH IT.

Steve, please remove my account as i see people do not appreciate my postings.

I wish you all  the best in life,
Alex

[TurboGenius]

Pops my head in for a moment.

What an interesting thread.

[maestro]

@probasah...can you please post a graph of say 10000 random stream to see how it looks..<i am not asking how you bet or anything else >only graph..thanks

[Bayes]

Pops my head in for a moment.

What an interesting thread.

That's not what I thought. I haven't read it all but it looks like yet another "Guess My Grail" thread. Same old same old. 

Do you realise how many different roulette systems are possible? It's like saying "I've hidden a chest of gold coins somewhere in the world, all you have to do is find it and it's yours". 

Even if you narrow down the possible systems to hot numbers and repeaters it won't make a lot of difference. Ok, here's a clue: it's somewhere in Africa. 

It's absurd on another level too. Given that an awful lot of hot number/repeater systems have been tested over the years, isn't it odd that not even one has achieved HG status? Are we supposed to believe that a minor mod of a failed system (e.g. wait for 3 repeats in 30 spins instead of 40) makes all the difference between a system which flat out fails and one which wins continuously? It's like saying this car will reach 100 mph if it's red but not if it's blue. If the basic principle of hot numbers/ repeaters is sound then many variations should work, but none of them do. 

[cht]

Just finished my regular session at my local casino.

I have a question for all you guys on here - who actually goes to your local b&m casino bet at the manual tables at least 2/3 times a week every week of the year for at least the last 3 years ? Anyone who collect enough comps to pay for rooms/food ? Indicate below.

[denzie]

That's not what I thought. I haven't read it all but it looks like yet another "Guess My Grail" thread. Same old same old. 

Do you realise how many different roulette systems are possible? It's like saying "I've hidden a chest of gold coins somewhere in the world, all you have to do is find it and it's yours". 

Even if you narrow down the possible systems to hot numbers and repeaters it won't make a lot of difference. Ok, here's a clue: it's somewhere in Africa. 

It's absurd on another level too. Given that an awful lot of hot number/repeater systems have been tested over the years, isn't it odd that not even one has achieved HG status? Are we supposed to believe that a minor mod of a failed system (e.g. wait for 3 repeats in 30 spins instead of 40) makes all the difference between a system which flat out fails and one which wins continuously? It's like saying this car will reach 100 mph if it's red but not if it's blue. If the basic principle of hot numbers/ repeaters is sound then many variations should work, but none of them do. 

And here we have it once again. ..... Because You can't figure it out no one can. Please if it's all you have to say, don't say nothing at all. Seriously shut up.

[denzie]

Just finished my regular session at my local casino.

I have a question for all you guys on here - who actually goes to your local b&m casino bet at the manual tables at least 2/3 times a week every week of the year for at least the last 3 years ? Anyone who collect enough comps to pay for rooms/food ? Indicate below.

Nope,  I'm a online player. It's just more easy. Never had problems with connection or pay outs etc....

But on my trip in cambodia yup...buy in for 5-800$ and every night a room and food and drinks and cigarettes and.....yes girls