@ turbo

[jefra]

Of course, a system CANNOT lose only if a player has unlimited bankroll ;-)

[amk]

Turbo,

How many spins can your progression go and still be able to attain a positive result?

[denzie]

@Jefra...

I'm really not talking about 12 numbers at all... I just tested that one.....

I'm currently playing a method about everything TG said. .... with great success...

It toke me sometime to figure it out. ....but I found it 

[Steve]

You have the hg denzie?

One system is no better than another because it's all random accuracy betting. Same odds, same payouts, same thing.

I want to be proven wrong.

[RouletteGhost]

My opinion

Turbo has it

He doesn't have to lie or need to lie

He bets repeaters

In and of itself that is the Hg

37 spins cycles you will have numbers that hit 3 to 4 times

So when a number hits twice start betting it

I guess bankroll and patience is required

[thelaw]

Remember........here is a thread that Turbogenius started with links to his best systems:

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17157.msg158555#msg158555

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Everything from my site (now closed)

1 unit per visit :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20121104154420/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/1unitpervisit.htm

10 percent method modified :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20121104154717/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/10percentmodified.htm

123 Turbo Street :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20121104170849/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/123turbostreet.htm

3 Streets System :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20130928030616/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/3streetssystem.htm

456 Turbo Street : (was on the site I was admin at - had never gotten it to my website)
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20080208175815/link:://gambling.projectsydney.com/viewtopic.php?t=598

4 Spin Sequence Method :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120919025639/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/4spinsequencesystem.htm

50 Max :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20121104162233/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/50max.htm

5 Spin Progression Method :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120825153413/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/5spinprogression.htm

6 Streets :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120919030520/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/6streetssystem.htm

Abacus Roulette : (was on the site I was admin at - had never gotten it to my website)
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20071223004620/link:://gambling.projectsydney.com/viewtopic.php?t=860

Hot vs Cold testing :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120819000604/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/anotherhotcoldtest.htm

Farthest Back Method :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120924001343/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/farthestback.htm

Law of 3rd for streets method :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120919025509/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/lawof3rdstreets.htm

Million in May system for 2 to 1 bets :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120924001348/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/mimfor2to1.htm

Million in May for streets :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120924002439/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/mimforstreets.htm

+3 / -1 Progression :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20121104151945/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/plus3minus1progression.htm

Underdog Sleeper System :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20121104162243/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/underdogsleepers.htm

Possible Holy Grail idea :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20121031122207/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/possibleholygrail.htm

Raindrops Method and comments :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120813230436/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/raindropscomments.htm

Supporting Bets and comments :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120409022530/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/supportingbets.htm

Predicting a trend / win :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120915130433/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/trendwinprediction.htm

Turbo's 35 unit method :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120915134635/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/turbos35unitmethod.htm

Turbo's Equalizer method :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120813225008/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/turbosequalizer.htm

Another repeater method :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20140410082741/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/anotherrepeatermethod.htm

Another great progression :
link:s://web.archive.org/web/20130810135708/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/agreatprogression.htm

I have yet to see Turbo come out and retract any of these systems. Solid.

Cheers! 

[Steve]

If these systems don't change the odds or payouts, then how are they different from random bets of varying size?

[Steve]

Repeaters don't change odds. Ive tested probably trillions of rng spins with automated software. Repeaters are normal statistical probability.

[Steve]

Turbo what's the next step?

[jefra]

Denzie

It is really not a new system how Turbo plays. Out there were a few similar systems and all failed soon or later. So testing a systems on a few hundreds or even thousands spins proves nothing. And even worse is to test them on past spins. Many systems worked nice on history spins, BUT when player go in casino and start to play in live, then all changes and reality can be painful.

Why do you think that experienced players, like are Steve, Caleb, Mr.J,... all not believe in systems and progressions? Because all such a systems with progressions fail soon or later.

I exactly know how TG plays, got a same graph, made a tests of several thousand spins, played in online casinos for free and system worked so-so. BUT when tried it playing on airball machines, then a system failed, and I did not use any wild progression at all, but TG uses so damn dangerous progression that would kill every player because no one has unlimited bankroll. BUT TG claims that he never cannot lose with it. If you want to talk more, then you can write me: jefra02e@gmail.com. Do not try to email TG because he is ignoring them, I tried 5x and now I give up.

[denzie]

You have the hg denzie?

One system is no better than another because it's all random accuracy betting. Same odds, same payouts, same thing.

I want to be proven wrong.

Oh hell no. I don't have the hg. But it does wins a lot more than it loses. 

So far.......

[denzie]

@jefra...

I've been playing airball a lot. And for me it gives the same results as live dealer or rng. The same "events" happen at the same time. No difference there at all.

Well that's my opinion of course.

[nottophammer]

@jefra...

I've been playing airball a lot. And for me it gives the same results as live dealer or rng. The same "events" happen at the same time. No difference there at all.

Well that's my opinion of course. Thumbs up

[jefra]

yes, they work similar, until they don't   

[Steve]

Why do you think that experienced players, like are Steve, Caleb, Mr.J,... all not believe in systems and progressions?

Ive never seen anything to suggest ken is an expert at anything other than blaming others for his life, backstabbing, trolling, petty behavior, blatant malicious lies, digging a deeper grave, and making a dickhead of himself. Im far from convinced his secret "method" is anything but talk. His experience with roulette is how to lose. Not how to win. His purpose on forums is to troll to make hinself feel superior and better about himself. If you dont see him for what he is, look closer. Maybe one day Ill show some conversations, if he wants. He seems to.

Denzie, many systems can survive 10,000+ spins. But having a system that aims to win just in your lifetime is fallacy. When the odds dont change, all you are left with is the equivalent of lots of different people all making random bets of difference size. If that beat roulette, the game wouldnt be in casinos. Nevertheless if it works for tou, keep doing it. But dont be surprised if a bad night wipes out all wins and more. You might be one of the lucky ones who stops before the losing run. For some, that run is on day 1.

There is absolutely no way around it. To beat roulette without relying on plain luck, you must increase accuracy of predictions. This is really basic stuff. Anyone interested in serious play needs to understand why. In the professional gaming community, this basic knowledge isnt even a question. Its just known fact, like the water being wet. On most forums, understanding of the fundamentals is rare.