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Started by Steve, Dec 29, 07:00 AM 2016

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Steve

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 29, 07:16 PM 2017so let me get this straight

if a profit shows then it "must be wrong"

that is steves stance

so that proves a winning method could never be proven to steve because he would not accept it

he wants it proven to him, and if so, it must be wrong

broken down: steve says if there is profits over millions of spins it is coded wrong: laymens terms: steve believes no such thing exists, so debating him on it is pointless at best

If someone gives you a program and you cannot verify it is even coded correctly, and you don't even understand how the software is structured to test, how can you verify testing is done properly?

Can you imagine how flawed scientific processes would be if everyone just accepted unknown software as accurately coded?

RG you need to understand despite what you think, I am not partial to any "opinions" or concepts. I believe in reason and logic. My "opinions" are not "opinions" in this case. It is not about my favorite food or color. It is about mathematical equations. It is not my "opinion" that 1+1 = 2.

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jan 29, 07:25 PM 2017but the fact is 38 in 38 will never happen before our eyes

You still are not understanding that any other sequence of 38 numbers is just as unlikely, and will happen as often over time. There is nothing that sets one sequence of spins apart from another when there is no connection.
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thelaw

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 29, 07:16 PM 2017
so let me get this straight

if a profit shows then it "must be wrong"

that is steves stance

so that proves a winning method could never be proven to steve because he would not accept it

he wants it proven to him, and if so, it must be wrong

broken down: steve says if there is profits over millions of spins it is coded wrong: laymens terms: steve believes no such thing exists, so debating him on it is pointless at best

From Steve:


QuoteIm interested in the truth, whatever it may be. I am not bound to what i think i know. I open to any change in my understanding. But when im told 1+1=400 im going to keep an open mind, but still carefully investigate the claim with a proper approach.

You'll notice that Steve wrote "truth" not "facts". Everyone can have their own truth, but facts exist independent of an individual's opinion.

Although, Steve also believes in precognition/remote viewing.........so perhaps he's making his own rules either way. :ooh:
You sir.......are a monster!!!

RouletteGhost

My point was he wants proof then he won't entertain it

Saying it must be wrong suggests he thinks it could never be so

So it's a wasted debate
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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Steve

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 29, 07:29 PM 2017My point was he wants proof then he won't entertain it

No, read what I wrote. I understand the logic he claimed to code, and explained why it is incorrect. What i'm saying is I cant determine if he coded correctly.

Quote from: thelaw on Jan 29, 07:28 PM 2017You'll notice that Steve wrote "truth" not "facts". Everyone can have their own truth, but facts exist independent of an individual's opinion.

The truth is made from facts. They are the same thing. There are no real grey areas in this universe. What we call grey is simply something not understood yet. To imply otherwise is saying things can happen without cause. When is the last thing you know that happened without any cause at all?

Quote from: thelaw on Jan 29, 07:28 PM 2017Although, Steve also believes in precognition/remote viewing.........so perhaps he's making his own rules either way.

Sure, precognition has a much better chance of being legit than 1+1 = 4324

Why the attacks on me? I'm simply trying to determine if TG has something legit or not. Why should my logical approach bother anyone?
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Steve

RG, you are also forgetting my own software and testing confirms what many experts in mathematics and gaming have also found. And that is like I keep saying:

1. Previous spins have no connection to future spins. That means you can have as many repeaters as you want, but the odds of any number spinning next don't change.

2. Saying there will never be 38 numbers in 38 spins is nonsense. It is no different to any other sequence of 38 spins.

What Priyanka has given is an excel chart and I dont know what it is. I only know what he claims it is. If I understood the coding i would check it for errors. Instead, what I do is use my own software and it contradictions what Priyanka and Turbo say, although my software corroborates what professionals in gaming and mathematics found. So without even checking the code, being logical, who's software is probably right?
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thelaw

QuoteSure, precognition has a much better chance of being legit than 1+1 = 4324

Now you're just throwing your gun...........come on Steve.

I seem to remember that you were going to publish your proof of these claims...............still waiting. :ooh:

Although, I'm also still waiting to see just 1 single member who has used any of your products successfully and posted a report about their winnings. :sad2:

Nothing personally against you Steve; you've always seemed like a fair guy. But you can't ask for proof of a method, while making outrages claims beyond the realm of current scientific knowledge. If that were the case, then Turbo could just say that the math it simply too complicated for you to understand, and you'd be stuck. :thumbsup:

You sir.......are a monster!!!

RouletteGhost

I wasn't trying to attack Steve

I just try to have a direct and no sugar coating line of communication

Steve believes roulette cannot be beaten without increasing accuracy of prediction

Now, I believed betting a number that has repeated is increasing accuracy of prediction.
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thelaw

QuoteSteve believes roulette cannot be beaten without increasing accuracy of prediction

Now, I believed betting a number that has repeated is increasing accuracy of prediction.

So which of you is telling the truth? :question:
You sir.......are a monster!!!

Steve

Quote from: thelaw on Jan 29, 07:53 PM 2017Now you're just throwing your gun...........come on Steve.

Throwing my gun? Well I guess it is a fact that numbers that repeat have a better chance of spinning next. Go win your millions.

Quote from: thelaw on Jan 29, 07:53 PM 2017Although, I'm also still waiting to see just 1 single member who has used any of your products successfully and posted a report about their winnings.

Firstly all players submit an NDA, so the vast majority say nothing. But actually there have been a few over the years. Like Clothdog who initially attacked me but later admitted he had done well with the system when applied it correctly. There's also the lab test report. There are others but you know, anyone can test something like my computers free and see for themselves. So why bother arguing? Besides, I teach advantage play. Anyone with a brain and experience with AP in roulette knows it works in the right conditions. AP is what the casinos are scared of. Are you really going to tell me repeaters worries casinos?

Quote from: thelaw on Jan 29, 07:53 PM 2017Nothing personally against you Steve; you've always seemed like a fair guy. But you can't ask for proof of a method, while making outrages claims beyond the realm of current scientific knowledge.

Actually there's enough about precog to indicate it may very well be legitimate. Start with the global consciousness project at Princeton: link:://noosphere.princeton.edu - nothing personal, but if you don't know the facts about something, you will easily dismiss it as nonsense from your opinion.

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 29, 07:59 PM 2017Steve believes roulette cannot be beaten without increasing accuracy of prediction
Now, I believed betting a number that has repeated is increasing accuracy of prediction.

But it doesn't. that's my point. Use my free software. And if you arent sure about it being coded correctly, do a smaller test to see how it functions.
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falkor2k15

Here's a breakdown of the spreadsheet...



Haven't seen anything suspicious yet. All seems to tally up with the written rules.
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Steve

Thanks it helps a little. I'm still looking into it myself.

There are a few things that might hold clues EG:

1. When there are no spins at all, the bankroll is like this:


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thelaw

First off, Steve, my hats off to you. You have mastered the invisible compromise with regards to your Roulette products.

QuoteFirstly all players submit an NDA, so the vast majority say nothing. But actually there have been a few over the years. Like Clothdog who initially attacked me but later admitted he had done well with the system when applied it correctly. There's also the lab test report. There are others but you know, anyone can test something like my computers free and see for themselves. So why bother arguing? Besides, I teach advantage play. Anyone with a brain and experience with AP in roulette knows it works in the right conditions. AP is what the casinos are scared of. Are you really going to tell me repeaters worries casinos?

You just proceeded to answer my question like a great politician........bit of info (Clothdog, who oddly kept searching for a winning method on the forums through 2012 after his "apology letter" to you 2009 where he admitted that your method actually worked. You would think that finding a winning system would be enough...... :question:). Then a misdirect (Lab Report?.........by what independent agency?). And then an old-fashioned challenge (why not try it for yourself?.........if only I had the 8hrs per day for a week to run the software)

QuoteActually there's enough about precog to indicate it may very well be legitimate. Start with the global consciousness project at Princeton: link:://noosphere.princeton.edu - nothing personal, but if you don't know the facts about something, you will easily dismiss it as nonsense from your opinion.

From Roger Nelson himself who runs the project:

According to The Age, Nelson concedes "the data, so far, is not solid enough for global consciousness to be said to exist at all. It is not possible, for example, to look at the data and predict with any accuracy what (if anything) the eggs may be responding to."[19]

Robert Matthews said that while it was "the most sophisticated attempt yet" to prove psychokinesis existed, the unreliability of significant events to cause statistically significant spikes meant that "the only conclusion to emerge from the Global Consciousness Project so far is that data without a theory is as meaningless as words without a narrative".


It's great that you believe in it..........if only the creators of the project had as much faith in the program.

Cheers! :thumbsup:
You sir.......are a monster!!!

denzie

Repeaters,  repeaters and more repeaters. ...it's all I read here. But nothing that shows how to play them. And there's where yall drop the ball.

Ok back to dozens ? Or 9 streets ? Or 5 guaranteed wins ? Or ... things I've posted ?

Steve...I'm really sure you don't know how to play them. Really. You know a lot about roulette for sure...but sure not everything.

Stop pushing him coz he's not gonna tell ya. And if he does he's an dumb mofo.
As spins roll off our predictions get better

thelaw

@Denzie

Here are a couple that Turbo posted on his site that involve repeaters:

link:s://web.archive.org/web/20140410082741/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/anotherrepeatermethod.htm

link:s://web.archive.org/web/20120915134635/link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/turbos35unitmethod.htm

Cheers!  :thumbsup:
You sir.......are a monster!!!

Steve

Its simple. Not a big conspiracy. Clothdog didnt like the effort needed for AP and wanted something quicker and easier. The lab test is for government agencies and was provided to the ACCC at one point to validate my claims - not that it was even needed. The point of the lab test was to have an independent and qualified professional do testing - to the point where it would satisfy the ACCC. Because I trade as a corporation, I'm subject to strict honesty in advertising. Thats why scammers are usually sole traders not a corporation.

Law,.. my free trials, my public demos, does it all work or not..... I dont intend to argue about it here. It's not the place. But you brought it up. I'll finish with the fact I offer free trials of all my systems and computers. If you don't have the time to test them, you'll never know. The offering of free trials is not some big conspiracy too. Now can we get back to the topic?

Regarding precog, continue your research. They do believe in the effect. They have stated while the affect appears to be only slight, it is significant. How significant for one event? Only barely. But how about the total database?

QuoteYet the odds against chance of this meanshift over a database this size are about a hundred billion to one.

Then continue to studies on psiological responses to humans just before images are displayed. The responses are different just before an emotional image is displayed. There's more, including my own personal research, and testing of the majority vote method. But can we stick to the topic now?
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