@ turbo

[Madi]

No doubt turbo has done a very good job and helped others for free. It took him years to conclude. Thanks for him. Make a "go fund turbo" and share winning. Haha

[cht]

Here are some stats. All these are individual sets of 10 million spins.

In 37 spins to expect a third hit:
Number of spins: 9999990
Number of cycles of 37 spins: 270270
Cycles with three hits: 265475 / 270270
Percentage: 98%

In 74 spins to expect a fourth hit:
Number of spins: 9999990
Number of cycles of 74 spins: 135135
Cycles with four hits: 135122 / 135135
Percentage: 99%

In 111 spins to expect a fifth hit:
Number of spins: 9999990
Number of cycles of 111 spins: 90090
Cycles with five hits: 90090 / 90090
Percentage: 100%

In 111 spins to expect a sixth hit:
In 74 spins to expect a sixth hit:
Number of spins: 9999990
Number of cycles of 111 spins: 90090
Cycles with six hits: 90090 / 90090
Percentage: 100%

What is the % for 4th hit in 37 spins and 5th hit in 74 spins ? Thanks

[celescliff]

What is the % for 4th hit in 37 spins and 5th hit in 74 spins ? Thanks

I can make that test in a couple of days. On vacation right now.

[Pogo]

Pogo....Thats Not how TG plays.
How many test you've done ?

In a cycle how many numbers do you think TurboGenius bets on Denzie?

A lot of tests, I have spent at least 10 times the hours on testing to what it took for me to read what TurboGenius posted and work this out.

I have a few thousand graphs that show this works, but won't be supplying them to the clueless or nay sayers just because they can't work it out.  This works flat betting, but the use of a positive progression boosts the winnings on the really good cycles.  TurboGenius talks about three cycles because if you lose on one, you will win on the other two making up for the occasional loss on a cycle.

TurboGenius has been very generous supplying the information he has supplied.

[romano0327]

Pogo, have been trying lots of methods for hours on RX to get advantage of the 3th, 4th and 5th,repeaters, but my tests keep loosing in the long run, would you please be so king to explain to me how you tested his strategy to get positive results.

Thank you,

[DoctorSudoku]

  This works flat betting,

Interesting.

I have done testing (using my recorded spins of actual wheels and airball wheels) on repeaters fairly extensively over the last few months (2-peaters becoming 3-peaters and 3-peaters becoming 4-peaters).

On some occasions, when the repeats tend to occur early on in a cycle, flat betting works. However, on most other occasions some negative progression is usually necessary.

On other threads, Denzie has similarly indicated that flat betting usually does not work for him and he has to use negative progressions to make profits.

Anyway, I will keep tinkering with repeaters to see if betting on repeaters can be made profitable using flat betting only.

[Pogo]

So Turbs is not wrong

No he is spot on, just amazing, but not surprising that he is the only one who has shared this.  There is no way that others have not already discovered what he has, with the number of people that troll these forums.

[probasah]

No he is spot on, just amazing, but not surprising that he is the only one who has shared this.  There is no way that others have not already discovered what he has, with the number of people that troll these forums.

Hey pogo,

That is one of the reasons i brought this thread alive to everyone's attention. It would have been lost forever in the mass of garbage threads you see everywhere. You see, there are still good hearted people out there. TG is one of them.
I would strongly recommend to everyone serious about this game to save a copy of this method dor offline study.
Its not the method itself we are talking about, but the whole principle at hand.
And yes, i agree with you there are a lot of people that want this method silenced.

Simple rule: follow repeaters!

Merry Xmas 😀
Alex

[nottophammer]

Hi Pogo
That GUT paper tracker gives a perfect visual of the trot, from it you can see how the cold starting 37 non-hit numbers are behaving, how they behave indicates when and if its worth trying for a repeat.
To try for a repeat you'll need to have read and studied various methods, i've posted many charts in green that show this thing called the trot. I've even shown games in the ROTT topic, as all this game is, is about the starting larger group the non-hit, then non-hit v 1 hit and later non-hit v >1x = 0x,1x,>1x, its like this so called genius said to have a 2x you'll need a 1x, but where do the 1x come from, that large starting 37, learn how these 37 behave and your on a winner, no need for computers steve

[Steve]

I'm sorry but there is no substantiating information to indicate Turbo's approach is anything but classic fallacy. Repeaters? Come on this is really old news.

I've explained it many times before, as have others. It is not being understood. You guys are wasting your time. Eventually you'll know this, and I know everyone needs to go through the natural course themselves, but if you are actually interested in the truth... then carefully read and try to understand my previous posts.

And Notto, I couldnt give a rat's pink ass if you or anyone didnt like the idea of computers. All I'm trying to do here is save people time and energy. This is all really old news.

[nottophammer]

And Notto, I couldnt give a rat's pink ass if you or anyone didnt like the idea of computers. All I'm trying to do here is save people time and energy. This is all really old news.

Works both ways, but as you own the site i'll understand why i see the waffle so much.

Steve just had 61 spins on MPR, that i dont mind using, as if it is riggid just won 234 units

Heres the 1st 40 spins

See steve,pogo how good countback is for showing the trot, end 23,1 so 14 non-hit came in the spins 11-40. As for repeats this is a good game, but nothing has gone R4, so the ? is how many R3 will come and need to be bet

[falkor2k15]

I'm currently testing dozen repeats in 4 spins (microcosm of this topic) without a parallel stream, and so far there is no edge...



Below are the most basic stats for this, showing the dozen responsible for the repeat, along with the spin number (in brackets):



GENERAL

1 repeat   45%
2 repeats   52%
3 repeats   4%

Repeat 1 (same stats as Dozen Cycles)   
Spin 2   33%
Spin 3   44%
Spin 4   23%
   
Repeat 2   
Spin 3   11%
Spin 4   44%
No Repeat   45%
   
Repeat 3   
Spin 4   4%
No Repeat   96%


REPEAT 1

Spin 2   33%
Spin 3   44%
Spin 4   23%

REPEAT 2

Repeat 1 = spin 2   
Spin 3   33%
Spin 4   45%
No Repeat   22%

Repeat 1 = spin 3   
Spin 4   66%
No Repeat   34%

Repeat 1 = spin 4   
No Repeat   100%

Dozen 1, Spin 2…   
1(3)   33%
1(4)   22%
2(4)   11%
3(4)   12%
No Repeat   22%

Dozen 1, Spin 3…   
1(4)   32%
2(4)   17%
3(4)   17%
No Repeat   34%

REPEAT 3

Repeat 1 = spin 2   
Spin 4   11%
No Repeat   89%

Repeat 1 = spin 3   
No Repeat   100%

Repeat 1 = spin 2; Repeat 2 = spin 3   
Spin 4   33%
No Repeat   67%

Repeat 1 = spin 2; Repeat 2 = spin 4   
No Repeat   100%

[nottophammer]

HERE IS THE REST OF THE SPINS

so as at spin 60 we could see 30.5 non-hit, we have had 23, so 7 more could show, and we see 6 came, spin 61 is the #22.

I've timed it for you steve 7:37 you could look over the bets, but its using avg, steve so avg is a waste of time i suppose.

The other 2 games of 60 spins where posted somewhere on this forum yesterday, so gone from 5472 units to 5932 units.

Study well students

[nottophammer]

Oh yeah steve like Maestro it froze at spin 55

[nottophammer]

Steve or anyone do you think these spins came from MPR, Pri +50
Whats the starting 10 spins 9/10
what could be the non-hit count at 39/40, 24 non-hit, gave 27, +3 so fast game, 8,+3, usual or avg would be 7,+2 in spins 11-20, 12,+2 spot on to avg for spins 21-30 and +3 at spin 40, just use your avg to hit and known Max to decide when to bet, as Alexander says, simples