@ turbo

[nottophammer]

If you can KTF 

[nottophammer]

Here is 111 of the 163 he posted


would you still be playing on this wheel after spin 13, i'd move to another or let some spins go by

[Madi]

@ probash

Can be done with repeater but will be slow. +400 for thousand of spin does it worth?

[denzie]

Yes, pogo, you are right. I a wrong.

Attached 18 series of 5000 spins to confirm it.

Alex

What I see on those charts is pretty much what I get. Although I don't flatbet. If it rises keep going. If it goes down and (almost) recovers reset.   

My positive progression makes minimum 10 times more profit though

[probasah]

What I see on those charts is pretty much what I get. Although I don't flatbet. If it rises keep going. If it goes down and (almost) recovers reset.   

My positive progression makes minimum 10 times more profit though

Denzie,

Those graphs were using a mild progression.
I since then found a way to flat bet.
Certainly it works either way but the risk is too big for me to use even the mildest progression.

I am not talking BS guys, seriously i want to help you. Thats why i reopened this discussion from February. Don't get side tracked by winkels method gut. Im not saying it doesnt work, just dont go side tracked.

Follow Turbogenius instructions and tou will see it.
Also,  flat bet. It is the best indicator to see if your bet selection really works. If flat bet fails, go back and rethik the bet selection.


Alex

[probasah]

@ probash

Can be done with repeater but will be slow. +400 for thousand of spin does it worth?

Hey Madi

It most certainly is!
I have not simulated it with positive progressions on a larger scale(1,000,000 spins).
Its just a matter of perspective. I was interested in the flatbetting bet selection, not on profit.

Regards
Alex

[probasah]

repeated post.

[romano0327]

Probasah, I have found that with the progression it almost always end up in profit, how ever you need a a pretty big bank roll, how many units are you using per numer for flat bet? Since the start. Do you start with the 1x numbers, or 2x numbers?

[probasah]

Probasah, I have found that with the progression it almost always end up in profit, how ever you need a a pretty big bank roll, how many units are you using per numer for flat bet? Since the start. Do you start with the 1x numbers, or 2x numbers?

1 unit only. All progressions fail if the bet selection is faulty. Its just mathematics. Test your bet selection with flat bets only. That is the only way.

Alex

[probasah]

I know its difficult to get it as i have struggled with the same frustrations in the past. We are looking for "magical" money progressions using really crappy bet selections. It does not win like that.But once you get it, you get it!
Start with a bet that wins flat bet and then and only then think about progressions( to get more money/ invested spins)
Stop following threads with EC dozens splits and corners they do not work. Do not read Money management BS topics. All progressions fail if the bet selection is a failure.
The bet selection includes individual numbers.

Alex

[romano0327]

Alex, I did try that many times yersterday but it kept on failing, every session I tried was for a cycle of 37 spins, betting 2x numbers to become 3x numbers, almost every session gets to a point where there is to many 2x numbers and one hit will not recover. Are you betting for 2x to become 3x ?

[probasah]

Alex, I did try that many times yersterday but it kept on failing, every session I tried was for a cycle of 37 spins, betting 2x numbers to become 3x numbers, almost every session gets to a point where there is to many 2x numbers and one hit will not recover. Are you betting for 2x to become 3x ?

Your answer in in your question. I said it before. Try out your bet selection flat betting. If it wins, than that is your answer. If not, than that is also your answer.
Read careful what turbo said and done. Bet repeaters? Yes? Bet 1x's? NO! Bet non hits? DEFINITELY NO! What then? Test it out man, its on a silver plate!

Alex

[romano0327]

Thank you Alex, I have also tried 3x numbers to become 4x in a 37 cycle, however the statistics of getting a 4x number in a 37 cycle are only of 49%, that means that 51 cycles will fail, so I dont think that 49 wins could make up for the losses.

[romano0327]

Alex I also found that if it works flat bet then it would only be possible for it to work in short cycles, te more spins the more new repeaters would have to be bet and a win would not make up for the amount of chips bet in the previous spins. Do you play flat bet for a 37 spin cycle and then reset?

[Madi]

@probash

In that case i think u cant play all the time. Need to play in specific position only.