@ turbo

[Moxy]

Sorry Moxy, you are right. I apologize. It's me who doesn't understand primary school math.

Turbo really has the HG. Parxonline giving Turbo free credits every day just for logging in gives him no edge whatsoever. In fact all casinos give you free money just for walking in the door.

Yet you so want to believe 'magic' is indeed real like the everyone else.  The fascinating human psyche.  Frankly, I think he plays subjectively, so not sure if and when the drawdown to end all drawdown will come.  Who knows some intuition are better than others and that's what keeping him afloat.

[Steve]

Yet you so want to believe 'magic' is indeed real like the everyone else

Sure I'd love to believe hocus pocus without any substantiating information. But I live in the real world, and need substantiating information.

Frankly, I think he plays subjectively

Uh yeah, I totally agree. Mathematics is entirely a matter of opinion.

Who knows some intuition are better than others and that's what keeping him afloat

I already explained the math of parxonline. That's what is keeping him afloat. If it were intuition, that's not the "beat roulette math with math" system he described.

[Steve]

Keep in mind i would like his system to be the hg. But I'm not going to ignore basic math and logic.

[Moxy]

Sure I'd love to believe hocus pocus without any substantiating information. But I live in the real world, and need substantiating information.

Uh yeah, I totally agree. Mathematics is entirely a matter of opinion.

I already explained the math of parxonline. That's what is keeping him afloat. If it were intuition, that's not the "beat roulette math with math" system he described.

One foot in, one foot out, for you huh.  I didn't want to step on his toe hence the 'he plays subjectively' part meaning the math checks out that it still can't be overcome.  Doesn't matter what repeat number, how many numbers, what prog to use...  I'm perplexed you even thought otherwise, otherwise you wouldn't be asking him to test it.  I'm not an idiot.

Strange dichotomy you have here: reasonable yet hoping for 'magic' to strike.

[Steve]

Actually I didnt ask him to test it. He started a thread offering clues that were like "proof of concept". It had nothing to do with me. I was just one of the people paying attention. But his clues and information was incorrect. I was one of a few people that highlighted the problems. Then he attempted to prove his system works by testing on parxonline. But the player has a strong positive advantage at parxonline. I explained the math behind it. It has nothing to do with the money not being real.

Im sorry you dont really know what you're talking about. I dont want to argue about it. If you think his method has merit, then learn what you can from him and try to figure out his system.

[Moxy]

Actually I didnt ask him to test it. He started a thread offering clues that were like "proof of concept". It had nothing to do with me. I was just one of the people paying attention. But his clues and information was incorrect. I was one of a few people that highlighted the problems. Then he attempted to prove his system works by testing on parxonline. But the player has a strong positive advantage at parxonline. I explained the math behind it. It has nothing to do with the money not being real.

Im sorry you dont really know what you're talking about. I dont want to argue about it. If you think his method has merit, then learn what you can from him and try to figure out his system.

Knowing not to declare anything on here as to not disrupt the culture (this forum), I'll just say, no thanks, I'm good.

[Steve]

Knowing not to declare anything on here as to not disrupt the culture (this forum)

The culture is diversified. A variety of people with different aims and interests with roulette. There is no specific culture.

If you are insinuating you know something I dont know about Turbo's methods, and that revealing it will upset people...
... good for you.

[Moxy]

The culture is diversified. A variety of people with different aims and interests with roulette. There is no specific culture.

If you are insinuating you know something I dont know about Turbo's methods, and that revealing it will upset people...
... good for you.

No, turbos method doesn't check out for me.  You are right from the start, imo.  But I hope his intuition is good enough to carry him.   Digressing, I guess you miss the point.

[Steve]

You didn't clearly define the "culture". Anyway doesn't matter. Like I said, there are a variety of different players on the forum. Math guys, system players, APs or whatever.

On the note of Turbo, again I have nothing against the guy. We've disagreed with some things but who cares. Anyway no need to go in circles. There's enough information for anyone to make up their own mind.

[falkor2k15]

OK, so I blind-folded myself and put my arms behind my back by removing all parallel streams and placing a ban on High, Low, Dozens, Lines, Streets (etc.), trying to come up with a basic concept or rule that Turbo may be applying to his Numbers-only strategy - based simply on hot/cold/progression. Unfortunately, I failed on all counts, but in the process I did discover some new stats that may or may not help:

[nottophammer]

Seems like your learning now, just look at reply 36 in strategy help 

[cht]

OK, so I blind-folded myself and put my arms behind my back by removing all parallel streams and placing a ban on High, Low, Dozens, Lines, Streets (etc.), trying to come up with a basic concept or rule that Turbo may be applying to his Numbers-only strategy - based simply on hot/cold/progression. Unfortunately, I failed on all counts, but in the process I did discover some new stats that may or may not help:

Not surprise. This might be helpful for those who follow the trot to play hot/cold/progression. Have fun.

[nottophammer]

This might be helpful for those who follow the trot

Now we have a math wizard here, is there a TROT or no trot as spins are independent

[nottophammer]

Come on someone,lets get this trot malarkey sorted once and for all.

[nottophammer]

spin 1
spin 2
spin 3 is that a trot or independent spins.
          If independent then how do you build methods to play on 1 spin