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[Blue_Angel]

Looks like betting the remaining 9 is better than any random 9 you'd like to pick, Priyanka posed this once and excepted the example for betting the remaining.
The ? is what is the max spins those 9 could miss, on J247 it's 17 spins and FOBT, rng is 23, 17 spins once in 420 games and 23 once in 650 games

For 9 numbers is: 666/9= 74 spins, that's for any 9 numbers.
The same virtual limit applies for any total, for example:
666/1= 666
666/2= 333
666/3= 222
666/4= 167
666/5= 134
666/6= 111
etc...
But you could accumulate different totals instead of all numbers having the same delay, for example:
Looking on the list with most delayed numbers there are number 1 is absent for 130 spins, number 6 is absent for 117 spins, number 19 is missing for 107 spins, number 23 missing for 96 spins, number 28 sleeping for 89 spins, number 30 sleeping for 88 spins and number 32 sleeps for 83 spins, therefore we have a group of 7 numbers which their accumulated absence is:

130+117+107+96+89+88+83= 710 which exceeds 666, thus that 7 numbers are ready to bet but for how long is the real question 666 in to square = 1332-710 = 622 and its square root is 24.93 which means within the next 25 spins one of those 7 numbers will awake.

You can figure out the progression yourself, it depends from the total of numbers and the total of spins.

[TurboGenius]

Looking on the list with most delayed numbers there are number 1 is absent for 130 spins, number 6 is absent for 117 spins, number 19 is missing for 107 spins, number 23 missing for 96 spins, number 28 sleeping for 89 spins, number 30 sleeping for 88 spins and number 32 sleeps for 83 spins, therefore we have a group of 7 numbers which their accumulated absence is:

130+117+107+96+89+88+83= 710 which exceeds 666, thus that 7 numbers are ready to bet but for how long is the real question 666 in to square = 1332-710 = 622 and its square root is 24.93 which means within the next 25 spins one of those 7 numbers will awake.

You are over complicating it.
The "answer" doesn't require all these calculations.

[denzie]

You are over complicating it.
The "answer" doesn't require all these calculations.

The answer is not playing those crazy progressions from BA.... TG why don't you enlighten us more with your time machine. We all know how it wins if you bet more and more on the repeaters as they repeat. But of course this isn't always the case. And then your in the hole. Perhaps add the gaps to it. 

[Blue_Angel]

The answer is not playing those crazy progressions from BA....

You don't know what you are talking about, progressions are just tools, how you use them makes the whole difference.
So don't blame a tool if you cannot grasp it properly.
Sorry to say but "gaps" wouldn't help your situation, Falkor has figured it out long time ago, but who listens to the ravings of a "madman"?!

[TurboGenius]

We all know how it wins if you bet more and more on the repeaters as they repeat. But of course this isn't always the case. And then your in the hole. Perhaps add the gaps to it.

If you do it right, you're never "in the hole".
As long as there are repeaters, my way wins.
If there are gaps, it's because someone didn't read what I've already written - everything has been explained and in more detail than I would have wanted out in the open - yet there it is.
To anyone who doesn't want to go looking - then start with the basics.
The common sense part..
You cannot lose 1 single unit on a number that doesn't show up if you aren't betting on it.
This means a number sleeping for 600 spins (Bago - lol) won't affect you at all.
You didn't lose 600 units betting on it ? No.
You can only win with repeaters - and thanks to random you can't possibly "know" each and every hot number that is going to appear. I showed my results - at best I got wins on "most" of the numbers that appeared the most over the time of the session.
I certainly didn't manage to be on the best, but I had enough of them that each and every time the player can end in profit.
It's not impossible to do - and it's not so complicated that someone looking at what I've posted can't figure it out, even if they add their own twist.
I've done my best to perfect it for me - no problems to report. Math actually backs it up.
Luckily we have a random game which yes - has limits and is predictable.

[denzie]

 Well your right about not betting on those sleepy numbers. 

But there's mostly a hole to get out from. Didn't say a big one but there's one.

Question though: why did you go from 1/5 or 5/25 to the 1/2/4/8/16... Progression? (The earlier 1/2/3/4/5/..I can see not recovering)

[nottophammer]

Well your right about not betting on those sleepy numbers.  Partially right.

But there's mostly a hole to get out from. Didn't say a big one but there's one. Yes Den you’re right.

Question though: why did you go from 1/5 or 5/25 to the 1/2/4/8/16... Progression? (The earlier 1/2/3/4/5/..I can see not recovering) 
This why you can be in a hole Den. whatever unit you are using has a length value of 35-1. 35 spins makes a profit, 36 spins breaks even, the more spins after 36 the hole is getting bigger.
So 1 hot number has 35 chances to make profit, but what happens to the value length when another number has to be bet?
Let’s say 1st hottie is bet for 5 spins the value length is now 30 spins, but if you are to bet 2 hot numbers now, the value length is now only 15 spins, say you bet for 3 spins and another hot number is to be bet, 3 hot numbers with the value length at 24, does that not mean you have 8 spins for the win? So each time you add a hot number the value line shrinks. And when the starting 37 just keep waking up that value line shrinks to become a no value line, the big hole you talk off.
1*5(1,2,3,4,5)2*3(7,9,11)3*8(14,17,20,23,26,29,32,35)
Now back to partially right, at the start all 37 numbers are sleepers to you and the experts, but this is the larger group, and the larger group has a better chance of hitting. If you know anything about a starting 37 numbers there’s an average to hit to consider, but that’s for you to work on.

[nottophammer]

1st 10 spins no repeat, but this does happen.
spins 11-20, perfect distribution, 5 of the remaining 37 and 5 repeats.
spins 21-30, good for repeats, only 3 of the remaining 37 came, so this is good for hotties.

As i have shown in Turbo/Denzie, it can be a good method and like Den has said often gets back close to the starting bank roll.
spins 31-40, in the 30 spins 11-40 where you could see 15.8 non-hit come, we see 12 came so -3, whats usual for 60 spins 30.5 here today 29 came.

[Bettingking]

Repeats can work quite well if you enter a casino but id say a minimum of $5,000 is required to have any chance. So if you are not greedy make 5% = $250 within 2 hrs = reasonable return.

[cht]

Put up $5000 br at risk of that dreaded hole, the objective is to win $250 for 2hrs daily play which gives $5000 profit per month in 2hrs 20days of play, is it worth it ?

My answer is no. Why ?? Becos of the HOLE!
There's the casino waiting to spoil your plan which is worse than the hole!!!

I tweaked repeaters my way, played 8hrs daily play, 100% returns on br for the week is the objective. I was up 150% for the week until the last day. Two zeroes and two consecutive repeat numbers back to back that I did not cover reversed 100% of the back breaking, arse burning work.

Yea it happened to me, ass luck. Or casino cheat ?

Learned my lesson and NEVER will I let them do that to me again! First off, fark repeaters! The excel spreadsheet and the work goes down the drain, too bad. Second, the casino cheat! Now lets play the roulette game at the correct setting. Beat the casino!!!

[denzie]

If you bring 5k to win 250 bucks your doomed. That's a big no.

Now bring 250 bucks to win 5k is more like it 

Ok ok or at least another 250$ ( yes it can)

[cht]

If you bring 5k to win 250 bucks your doomed. That's a big no.

Now bring 250 bucks to win 5k is more like it 

Ok ok or at least another 250$ ( yes it can)

Right on the money. 

[fossell]

Yup agree with Denzie and cht there. You wouldn't need or risk 5K to secure just 250 units. But I presume betting king wasn't meaning that just for one session.

[Bettingking]

Yes i know and understand im not saying risk the whole $5,000 as it would be broken down into separate bank rolls and as i have found i dont bet on usually more than 5-8 numbers at most. Will post my system when i have more time

[TurboGenius]

The correct way to look at it is to do proper testing.
See the maximum drawdown and the current bankroll balance - once you've tested
enough spins.
If your max drawdown is 2k and your current bankroll is 20k - then you're fine.
If your current bankroll over many tested spins is still less then the biggest drawdown - don't continue on with that line of thinking.
As I said - my way doesn't require digging out of holes. There are drawdowns and yes it recovers every single time. As long as a numbers repeat - it can't lose.