@ turbo

[TurboGenius]

was this Turbo's last attempt on MPR, if its so good on Parx then why not try again?

I have a valid reason why I won't play on the site's roulette game, it has nothing to do with the fairness of the game results - but there is an important reason why I won't play there now. Steve knows, or should - if not I can PM him why I no longer play there

5. Don't brush aside statements that he wrote that seem unimportant, they are not.

You are very good at noticing details. There have been posts where I've said something or pointed to something somewhere and practically no one noticed. I don't mean it to be a game or a tease - but someone truly interested would take note and explore in the direction I pointed them in, others won't. It's a sure way to not release all of the answers to everyone in the open I suppose. It seems effective.
My main goal is to drive home the fact (and I mean fact) that this game can be beaten, it's not impossible - regardless of how many people/experts/nay sayers say otherwise. It's just a matter of someone going in the right direction and working it out. Also, not giving up.
If I stopped or 'threw in the towel' every time someone told me it's impossible - I wouldn't be here now. Other ways work as well - bias wheels, signature and I'm sure computers as well on some level.. but the only way the average player can walk out a winner consistently without using these methods is to use something that works. Only a very few things work - but any system or method that does is based on numbers appearing greater than expected (hot) and the math being in the player's favor instead of the house. If they say it's impossible - fine... I surely can't convince anyone who doesn't even think it's possible and isn't even trying.

[Steve]

Usually when a claim is true, theres at least one good piece of information that's verifiably true. In your case tg, all I've seen is a series of contradictory clues, and inaccurate statements about roulette.

I mean literally i haven't seen a single valid, correct and relevant point. It has been the opposite.

I don't consider you a bad guy but everything ive seen indicates you're misleading people either knowingly or not. And i still keep coming back to the point about spending weeks with rigged fun play instead of real money. There's just too much wrong for it to be believable. I really hope I'm wrong.

[cht]

I don't consider you a bad guy but everything ive seen indicates you're misleading people either knowingly or not.

If that's what you belief, then the appropriate action to take is to lock this thread and TG banned.

I have to be banned on similar grounds.

[sentinel3]

Turbo's method is based on betting from the very first spin of a cycle -- that is its Achilles' heel.

This is no holy grail. There never was and neverwill be. What I have seen and understand about roulette is this.

Its a percentage game. There is no pattern variance cannot find. And decode. The biggest mistake thats ever been made by people designing systems. Is believing they can outlive a losing streak. They can find something that ALWAYS shows a positive profit at the end of each and every game.

This is why all fail longterm. The only thing that wins longterm is the knowing. That overall you can expect to win MORE than you LOSE. And any who have that understanding.

And a system that delivers that knowing. Can beat roulette. If I play 10 games for example. And know I will always win ar least 5 of them. It doesnt even matter anymore if the 5 wins show positive numbers matched against the five losers.

You factor in the necessary money management. To assure as long as you get those 5 wins out of 10 or better. You show a profit.

Thats the mystery of beating this game explained right there. Roulette is a PERCENTAGE GAME. Find that which gives you a minumum expected return. And variance house edge and table limits. Can never defeat you.

[Taotie]

the appropriate action to take is to lock this thread and TG banned.

I have to be banned on similar grounds.

Ban everybody!

We're all a bunch of wankers anyway, so ban everybody for breaking the no wankers allowed rule. 


What?

There's no, no wankers allowed rule?.. well there should be.

[TurboGenius]

Ban everybody!

We're all a bunch of wankers anyway, so ban everybody for breaking the no wankers allowed rule. 

That was funny lol

I don't consider you a bad guy but everything ive seen indicates you're misleading people either knowingly or not. And i still keep coming back to the point about spending weeks with rigged fun play instead of real money.

I have played with real money at Parx in PA and AC and have posted those results.
They are exactly in line with the online results, however I have no plans of doing it everyday - as I've said - once or twice per month is fine with me. They don't care about
the small amount that I walk out with.
The "misleading" claim is understandable - you can't agree with me unless either you figure it out on your own which I don't think you want to do because you don't believe it's possible - or if you see proof... but for you to see proof you would have to be shown exactly what it is and how it works in detail - which I obviously won't do.
So to you it's a choice I suppose. I can show you results but those results will either be "rigged" or "not enough spins" or any number of reasons you can insert that backs up what you believe - that's it's not possible. I can't do anything about that.
That only leaves me with showing results and explaining what I can - the readers can make their own choices as well. "Misleading" would typically mean that I had a motive - what would that even be ? I'm not selling systems, I'm not casino staff - I have no motive to tell people something I know isn't true - so why would I ?

[DoctorSudoku]

If that's what you belief, then the appropriate action to take is to lock this thread

That is actually  a very good idea.

[TurboGenius]

That is actually  a very good idea.

You can always avoid the thread and not read it, not comment in it.
But since you do read and comment in it - locking it would also silence you.
There's no purpose in doing such a thing unless there's a need to avoid the
truth or silence opinions on either side - so no, it's not a good idea.
But hey, I'm in the US - we have freedom of speech and the only time that is threatened is when people want to avoid the truth being told.

[DoctorSudoku]

But hey, I'm in the US - we have freedom of speech and the only time that is threatened is when people want to avoid the truth being told.

I am also in the US -- and I have used my freedom of speech to say what I have already said about your supposedly infallible method in this thread.

[TurboGenius]

your supposedly infallible method

And yet you don't have the details of how I play... so your assumptions about what I do turn out not to work - that's understandable. Once you have the actual way to play and test it yourself I suppose it's another story. Do you stand outside of theaters and tell people going in "I haven't seen this movie but trust me, it's terrible". No, of course not - thank God for forums where nonsense like that can go on.

[DoctorSudoku]

And yet you don't have the details of how I play... so your assumptions about what I do turn out not to work - that's understandable. Once you have the actual way to play and test it yourself I suppose it's another story. Do you stand outside of theaters and tell people going in "I haven't seen this movie but trust me, it's terrible". No, of course not - thank God for forums where nonsense like that can go on.

Yet your acolytes and minions who also do NOT have all the details of how you play claim that your method works.

[nottophammer]

He's been on forums longer than me, so if the answer lies in multiple replies all over different forums, i will not look.
But from some replies on here, from denzie and others, i have tried different approaches, but the 1,2,3,4,5 does well. Whether its right way,I and the rest of us will not know.
A hot number is it a 1 hit, has the 1 hit, hit above expectation if all 37 are expected to hit in 37 spins. If this 1 hit, became a 2 hit, now it would be a candidate to be hot.

Madi the green chart has 22, 1hits i believe before a repeat showed, so are the 22, hot #'s? 

[RouletteGhost]

One will come to learn one thing about forums

What’s not disclosed, but still championed, is typically bullshit

Sorry. But true.

[Madi]

Madi the green chart has 22, 1hits i believe before a repeat showed, so are the 22, hot #'s?

Definitely not in 37 spin. But if u consider in 1000 spin  yes those can be

[Steve]

Not believing you is because everything you've said is either contradictory or plain inaccurate. Again there doesn't appear to be any verifiable, accurate or true claim. Not one. Whether intentional or not.

Not believing you has nothing to do with thinking the hg doesn't exist. Because i believe it could exist. But it is not repackaged fallacy.

Playing for weeks on rigged play for fun, plus a few times a month in a real casino is hardly proof a system works. I won for around a year with a losing dozens system until i learned better.