@ turbo

[Steve]

Thanks but I was asking turbo. And if you mean testing with Excel RNG, it's very bad RNG. It will constantly have runs of repeating numbers because of the algorithm it uses (research it). You need proper RNG to test.

And besides, turbo has said many times his system works because the spins are "random", despite the meaning of "random" being completely unpredictable (impossible to change the odds).

So without realizing it he said spins are random, it's impossible to change the odds, and that's why my system works. THE PROBLEM IS YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY BEAT ROULETTE WITHOUT CHANGING THE ODDS. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. IT'S THE SAME AS EARNING $100 IN A JOB, THEN HAVING $5 TAKEN AWAY FOR EVERY $100 EARNED, THEN EXPECTING TO BE LEFT WITH $100.

Really its like saying black is white, white is not black, black is nothing like black or white.

It is just completely backwards mixed with garbage and poor understanding.

I hate to bring bad news but rather than just call me a "naysayer", perhaps understand why I'm naysaying.

Again like I said, this is a lot like trying to logically prove Earth is flat. All the information just points the other way.

[TurboGenius]

I'll do my best to answer your specific questions Steve -
but.. I have to make sure my wording is how I want it so bear with me.
I know to you it's easy yes or no questions, but for me it's not.
I'll do the best I can without exposing details, fair enough.
I'll work on the reply and post tomorrow as time permits.
As far as nay-saying - I think the problem is that you see 1 spin as the game, like I've told "Sir Anyone" lots of times (and here too).
You know the payout for any location and you know the odds of any location appearing - since they don't match (house edge) for an individual spin - then that's all you need. If that were it, there would be no need to search for any other way to play and win. But like I posted in the 60's thread at the other forum (and the video has since been taken down.. shame) - You can absolutely have a completely random event that can't be predicted - yet you can collect data and suddenly, by looking at it a different way, the completely independent and random events are predictable - you can damn near set a watch to how accurate it becomes. It's STILL random, each reading is still completely independent from the last - each individual event cannot be predicted - and yet yes.. There is a way to chart it where it's as close to 100% accurate as you can get. It's not a miracle or mumbo jumbo - it's just that someone thought "What happens if I stop thinking of each individual event as being random and unpredictable and look at the big picture"
Anyway, I'll reply as I said to your points.

[Steve]

I understand your thinking but it's like saying the more spins you see, the more even the about of reds/blacks will be - and that this is predictable.

Sure its predictable, but you are still not changing the odds at all.

It's like saying you predict the ball will eventually fall. But that doesn't at all help knowing where the ball will land.

anyway I'll wait for your other answers.

[nottophammer]

Morts #'s for today show no one downloaded. i'll wait 5 mins from post time of this reply and then download, then we'll see if wait for 20 spins and bet all repeats wins

[nottophammer]

Job done. By betting all the repeats +14

[nottophammer]

Off track here, but look at the check point

Look in testing zone 100 days of mort.
I see and you lot should as well, see the spins come 11-20; 7 non-hit, then 21-30; 5 more non-hit, then 31-40; 3 more non-hit, the avg for 40 spins showing in mort 100, avg 15,42
So today +1, 16 non-hit came, meaning 14 repeats.

Or in those 14 repeats HOTTIES

[fossell]

But like I posted in the 60's thread at the other forum (and the video has since been taken down.. shame)

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=NUvf6F-Whlc

;-)

[Madi]

Good to see this again after a year.

[TurboGenius]

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=NUvf6F-Whlc

Thanks Fossell ! I tried to look for a different upload somewhere when the link went dead but wasn't finding one. Thank you

[Steve]

God I love those old films. I love this one especially. Good advice. Could save your life. No nuke is a match for duck and cover:

The kid with a bike looks like he busted his teeth on the curb.

Also a good one:

More logical advice is get behind something very thick and dense, then when the aftershock passes, get the hell out of there to avoid radio fallout in the wind.

[vladir]

Spin of cycles of 37 spins over and over.
Near 24 numbers will appear once.
You can do this over and over and the total amount of numbers that appear will end up being 24-28.

I remember when I tested this kind of approaches, and I can say that, unfortunatly I have seen it go to 33. Very rare event, but it can happen.

[denzie]

Its time someone says it.... GO FURTHER THAN 37/38 SPINS !!!!!

Ask yourself these  questions...

Do i see repeaters everytime i play/test?

Do i see some sessions where they come late ?

Do i see sessions where they come on time ?

Do i see sessions where they come fast?

Your answer should be YES to all.

Now how to bet ?
Flat?
Negative progression?
+1 ?

Your answer will be different from one person to another. Mine is NO to all.

Now what if.....we get a fast coming session? I mean the hotties are hitting so good that with a agressive positive progression our br shoots up and up and up and up and up .......

Now what if...we see that often? (Or often enough)

How would you devide your br?
(Lets say 1000 units)
How much would you bring for 1 session ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
(10 ? 50? 100? 200 ? 300 ? 500? 1000? )

[Madi]

What if  u see a late coming and signicant br drawdown.! Would u take a loss or have something to pull it up?

[denzie]

What if  u see a late coming and signicant br drawdown.! Would u take a loss or have something to pull it up?

My dd would be small. Nothing to worry about.

[cht]

Thanks but I was asking turbo. And if you mean testing with Excel RNG, it's very bad RNG. It will constantly have runs of repeating numbers because of the algorithm it uses (research it). You need proper RNG to test.

And besides, turbo has said many times his system works because the spins are "random", despite the meaning of "random" being completely unpredictable (impossible to change the odds).

So without realizing it he said spins are random, it's impossible to change the odds, and that's why my system works. THE PROBLEM IS YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY BEAT ROULETTE WITHOUT CHANGING THE ODDS. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. IT'S THE SAME AS EARNING $100 IN A JOB, THEN HAVING $5 TAKEN AWAY FOR EVERY $100 EARNED, THEN EXPECTING TO BE LEFT WITH $100.

Really its like saying black is white, white is not black, black is nothing like black or white.

It is just completely backwards mixed with garbage and poor understanding.

I hate to bring bad news but rather than just call me a "naysayer", perhaps understand why I'm naysaying.

Again like I said, this is a lot like trying to logically prove Earth is flat. All the information just points the other way.

It's a 1million games stats and not based on  excel rng. No worries, the test is very reliable done by the best roulette statistician.

Even you or Tom, Dick or Harry who do this test will still get the same numbers. Whether you use live spins, rng or excel rng you will still get close to the ballpark numbers.

Yes, the odds are changed. Anyone who sees the math model will easily recognise the odds are clearly changed.