@ turbo

[vladir]

Steve I dont know about wrong or right. But im still waiting for you to tell me how to take 50k plus off online casinos without getting shown the door.

If you can do that. I will give you a chunk of the winnings.

If you have a wining method, it's easy. Dont withdraw winings directly, instead play them on slots (the jackpot ones) and aim for a big win. When you win big, withdraw.

[denzie]

Well i pushed it to far...thats the only difference between fun and real money...I just try bit to much instead of cashing in

[denzie]

TG can i ask you...how far you push it ? After the big one hits...few spins more and cash in for the day?

[Roulettebeater]

If you have a wining method, it's easy. Dont withdraw winings directly, instead play them on slots (the jackpot ones) and aim for a big win. When you win big, withdraw.

You funny guy!
on slots? so that you lose them !

If you win try the tip from steven

[Steve]

Walking out with $50k winnings is not a problem. You'll probably have to get a check, record your name etc. But no problem. You'll only gte problems if you are doing it all the time, then your style of play and how you won will be looked at. In any case, it is not hard to avoid detection, but ultimately it limits your winnings. Eg with roulette computers you could theoretically win $1m in a day starting with $10,000. But then they will look at everything you did to win. And you would have needed a lot of spins to get to $1m. That will reveal what you are doing. Instead, more realistically, you'll need to bet just a few spins so it looks like short term luck, and win perhaps only $5000 in  session (in a typical smaller casino). If done properly, on larger limit tables, $30k in a session is ok if done right - and it still looks like luck. Anyway there's a lot more to avoiding detection but its not something to discuss here.

Turbo, are you able to at least show us your session bankroll charts that all lead up to your current bankroll?

I was testing the other day starting from $3000 bankroll and got to $300,000 just with random bets and deadly progression. It wouldnt be hard to get to #1 on the leaderboard of that  game - it just takes time and a lot of resets so nobody knows how much you also lost. Someone only needs to code a RX system with crazy progression, and use a combination of bets around a single number to get extend table betting limits. Then you need only that number, or numbers around it, to hit a few times. With the strong progression, it might take around 5 minutes to do. Anyway a well coded RX system will show this. Again it isnt possible on MPR because we track the lifetime win rate.

[Roulettebeater]

Walking out with $50k winnings is not a problem. You'll probably have to get a check, record your name etc. But no problem. You'll only gte problems if you are doing it all the time, then your style of play and how you won will be looked at. In any case, it is not hard to avoid detection, but ultimately it limits your winnings. Eg with roulette computers you could theoretically win $1m in a day starting with $10,000. But then they will look at everything you did to win. And you would have needed a lot of spins to get to $1m. That will reveal what you are doing. Instead, more realistically, you'll need to bet just a few spins so it looks like short term luck, and win perhaps only $5000 in  session (in a typical smaller casino). If done properly, on larger limit tables, $30k in a session is ok if done right - and it still looks like luck. Anyway there's a lot more to avoiding detection but its not something to discuss here.

Turbo, are you able to at least show us your session bankroll charts that all lead up to your current bankroll?

I was testing the other day starting from $3000 bankroll and got to $300,000 just with random bets and deadly progression. It wouldnt be hard to get to #1 on the leaderboard of that  game - it just takes time and a lot of resets so nobody knows how much you also lost. Someone only needs to code a RX system with crazy progression, and use a combination of bets around a single number to get extend table betting limits. Then you need only that number, or numbers around it, to hit a few times. With the strong progression, it might take around 5 minutes to do. Anyway a well coded RX system will show this. Again it isnt possible on MPR because we track the lifetime win rate.

Are you saying that turbo has lady luck always with him ?
I dunno yet how Turbo plays, but geeks rule the world these days and he might be one 

[maestro]

I was testing the other day starting from $3000 bankroll and got to $300,000 just with random bets and deadly progression

16000 on numbers....flat

[Steve]

Are you saying that turbo has lady luck always with him ?

Parx is rigged, and I explained the math to prove it before.

I suspect with this new simulator it is short term sessions with very strong progression. I did it myself in a short time to $300k starting with $3k. Anyone can do this and reset sessions until they get a good run, then do a number of small sessions to manipulate the states to look like long term winnings. See what I wrote. Thats why I asked for the long term trend chart. And its why MPR works different using the lifetime win rate.

[TurboGenius]

Turbo, if your results aren't luck, passing #1 would just be a matter of time. Not difficult as you say.
Anyone here could match your results so far. Your activity shows as lower than the lucky winner. That suggests you win big quickly too. Then had a series of smaller games. You could reset the winnings easily.

I've NEVER reset my balance once. I'm at 116 winning "sessions" (which is thousands of spins) in a row with a balance of $354,688.00 in second place still (until I take over first).

Parx is rigged, and I explained the math to prove it before.
I suspect with this new simulator it is short term sessions with very strong progression. I did it myself in a short time to $300k starting with $3k. Anyone can do this and reset sessions until they get a good run, then do a number of small sessions to manipulate the states to look like long term winnings.

Anyone can win at Parx, Anyone can win on this Simulator, Anyone can win on rng with RX -
It's amazing though - NO ONE is there other than me. It's amazing to keep reading (considering how much work it actually takes) that anyone can do it. People are trying but they aren't making it - lots of resets, lots of negative balances, etc. But here we are.
I have Zero resets. If I did I would drop off the leaderboard and have to work my way up again - which clearly I haven't done.
"It's easy to do, just do A, B, C and anyone can win".
Why doesn't "anyone" pass me ? You can claim everything is rigged all day, then it's rigged for "everyone", not just me. Yet somehow by some miracle only I can figure out to win.
Shrugs and sighs.
Sure someone could bet the max of 3k on a spin and keep resetting - their balance will show that (I hope). I see people 400k in the hole and still working on winning, good for them - as long as they learn along the way what doesn't work and they make changes to how they bet. There's no need for resetting or anything to be "fixed" when the math is in the player's favor. It's really that simple.

[nottophammer]

TG what have you set bet limit on single number, at roulette simulator. Thanks

[Tinsoldiers]

(until I take over first).

Why would you want to do that?

[TurboGenius]

TG what have you set bet limit on single number, at roulette simulator. Thanks

I take into consideration the table limits of whatever game I'm playing.
At Parx for example, on the Roulette Royale - there's practically no limits.
They do limit the max bet being one that doesn't allow a HUGE win (millions),
but for all sake and purposes this limit is never needed. However the min bet is
$100.00...... it's incredibly hard with the 100 min to "win" because even with a 3k daily log in bonus, you're looking at 30 spins betting that if you only played a single number. On the Euro wheel, the max on any number is 100.00 and the min is 10.00 - again, with these limits in place it's very hard to achieve a win long term (despite the claims of it being rigged, etc).
At the Simulator site - you are maxed out with a 3k bankroll, regardless of how much you have as a balance. (shame). The min and max are 1.00 to 250.00 on a number. Much more playable but the amount for a bankroll you get (3k) also limits how you can bet.
My point is - you have to know the lower and upper limits for the locations that you plan to bet on. Then you need to set out a plan that stays within those limits - each site/game is different (unlike in the casino where the limits can change depending on time of day or day of week, but they are still predictable).
So once you know the range that you can bet for the locations that you are betting, (assuming you are using a system that works) - you can set up your progression accordingly.
If you believe "Anything that isn't flat bet is a loser" - then you're wrong.
Even without the house edge, you could theoretically even have a math edge and still lose because the worst case scenario can happen.
Sorry if this isn't specific but it's still important for people to read.
Know your table limits (game or real) - know what your method/system can do and then plan accordingly.

[TurboGenius]

Why would you want to do that?

I'm motivated to win. Losing is never an option. If it takes me a while to get there I'm ok with that. I just don't like to lose, no one does - play mode, real, you name it.

[Steve]

Again turbo can you please post the chart for the whole bankroll trend?

Also yes its rigged for everyone on parx. That's why there are lots of millionaires there.

[TurboGenius]

That's why there are lots of millionaires there.

No, as I explained before - when you have a $100.00 min chip value on roulette - there are going to be huge winners. You'll see a min win of $3,500.00 for crying out loud lol.
The slot machines that those "millionaires" are winning on (look them up) are $300.00 min per pull. There's going to be HUGE payouts (note on both of these situations, almost everyone will lose and they do.....)
Verdict - basing "rigged" on the money people have won is wrong. If the min bet was $1.00 for example, or the slots were $0.25 per pull - you would never see anyone with giant balances. It's just math.
an apple that cost 1.00 to someone who has no money is a lot.
an apple that cost $100.00 to a millionaire is just a apple. There's no difference.
It's only how the observer sees it that makes your opinion seem valid.