@ turbo

[ozon]

Wiggy
And how the situation looks against online RNG casionos
Are the wins also big?

Long time ago I had a very good long progression, which was excellent against betvoyager rng, but discconections bother.
After switching the Net Ent software, progression was destroyed,  losing  session after losing sessions.

[wiggy]

Hello Ozon,

When I play for real, I choose either a B+M Casino or Live online Casino. For testing purposes, I use Roulette Extreme and I suppose the simulators count for testing purposes as well because they have no reason to cheat. I have not / would not play on any of the RNG platforms like Playtech, Net Ent etc... The only RNG I have ever played for real money was Betvoyager because of their randomness control, but I didn't really feel comfortable playing there either. 'The General / Real' mentioned something the other day where supposedly there are some Russians who can manipulate the RNG platforms. So if players can do it, what's to stop any dodgy Casino's doing it. You can take it all with a pinch of salt but I suppose the best thing is just not to play them if you don't trust them or notice skewed results from what you can achieve playing elsewhere.

I am not one for long drawn out progressions. I much prefer something like a divisor.

cheers

[ozon]

Your results, really amazingly good.
That's why I asked how online casinos react to such players.
Thanks for information.

The basis is probably not to win too much in  short period  of time.
Betvoyager is good to play but not very long sessions, then problems with disconnections begin.

[nottophammer]

Well bet every spin is standing up, starting on 1st number to hit twice, target to win is as close to 500 units.
Just played 169 spins without MPR crashing, won 464 units.
I mention without crashing because betting every spin, a crash would not let you relay all placements and if the crash hits, you could end up down on starting BR, convenient for win rate.

Not a dig Steve just a true observation

[Steve]

Notto you are not understanding the win rate is calculated by the server and cannot be cheated. If you are missing bets, it has no bearing on your long term win rate.

Missing bets is not a crash. It is lag from your isp connection, not the server. The server connection is extremely reliable. But your route to the server may be poor. Thats your location and isp. If you played at real online casinos with real spins, you'll likely find the same thing.

[Azim]

Notto you are not understanding the win rate is calculated by the server and cannot be cheated. If you are missing bets, it has no bearing on your long term win rate.

Missing bets is not a crash. It is lag from your isp connection, not the server. The server connection is extremely reliable. But your route to the server may be poor. Thats your location and isp. If you played at real online casinos with real spins, you'll likely find the same thing.

Steve, that's when people say the online casino's are rigged. Because they lose connection. No reason for you to do that.
Losing connection is an old trick in the books by the online casino's. When you are reconnected, one of the numbers you were playing was a winner. It's been proven time in and time out. This happens every where. The only way to avoid that scam(there is no need for you to do this) is to keep messenger or any other chat window open and when that happens online check you chat connection to see if it was your ISP or the casino's.
There is no reason for you to do this. You not losing money with the payout's.

[jekhb76]

Good morning friends.

I MAY HAVE FOUND THE SOLUTION TO TURBO'S METHOD (REPEATERS)!

I've played around 50 sessions last night and not lost one of them, this was on the roulette simulaties site. Only problem i can't show you my sessions from yesterday as i did not played rated  But as Time permits today i Will do it again and show you my results.
It involves every repeater played and with turbo's 1/5/25 progression. In those 50 sessions my biggest drawdown was 1300 or so and Always came out possitive with at least 35 units, but Most of the Time much More.
And All of the sessions were over before spin 100.
I'm very exited to show you All my playing style. Don't know if Turbo Will react to this, but we'll See. Have a great day folks, met you know a.s.a.p.

[jekhb76]

Just did a quick 10 session play (10/10) All won and all done before spin 40. rest will follow later, because i need to go to work.
stay tuned.

[jekhb76]

Hi, i Have a Break now at work so i wil try to explaining it in a simple abc. And Yes you can also play it with repeaters, but i prefer Straight up because of the payout.

Well one thing we should Keep in mind is that we need to keep it as simple as possible.
As you All know, and Turbo has stated this many Times before; as Long as there are repeaters, you can't loose. And 1s Will be come 2s and 3s Will become 4s etc etc etc. Forgetting about the 1s, we will never play them, because as Long as they remain 1s they are cold numbers and you All know that you can Have as much as 27 + unique numbers in a row before a hit. I know that it won't happen often, but the Times that it will happen it will destroy your bankroll and i don't wanna get myself ever in such a possition.
Now another important thing is to never raise any bets only when a number hits, this is possible, but also not Always. I Will explaining that in a moment.
Also forget about a 9 or 18 spin Window, this isn't important. That's important is to make sure that we only betting numbers that Have shown More then they should Have.
So everytime a number Comes in in a 37 spin cycle, we look if it allready did that once in that cycle. When it did, we start our betting proces by playing 1 unit on that number.
So let's say you Have the next sequence:
3,24,8,6,21,3 3 is our number, so far clear Right? Now everytime a new number repeaters we look if it has repeaters within his 37 cycle and then bet that number also with 1 unit! So not raising All by one, we remain everything with 1 unit. So it's possible to have 3,4,5 or More numbers in play with only 1 unit on them. Next when one of our nunbers hits, we look if we at a new High, if we do, we remove All bets and start fresh by tracking new numbers within a 37 spin cycle. When we are not a new High when one of our numbers has hit, we look if that number did return for the second Time in the last 37 spins. If it did, we then raise that number to 5 chips (only that number - rest Staying the same) and continue the progress and Keep on Spinning. This Will be repeaters with every number that hit. When a new number needs to be bet, we only put 1 chip on it. Next up, when a number hits again within 37 spins and we have 5 units on it and not at a new High, we then Move our number to it's final stage and raise it to 25 chips. The rest of the numbers stays the same ofcourse. And we continue. When our 25 bet number does hit again and your not at a new High (is possible) we then remove that number from our board, this to keep our bets at a normal level. But when it was hit again within the last 37 spins we put it Back up but only with 1 unit again. Everytime a number hits we look at our 37 spin cycle, not a returning number we remove that number. A returning number Will be raised according to the 1/5/25 progression. I know that we will need a big bankroll for this. Min 2000 units maybe More, but it has not yet busted in More then 60 sessions played. This because of the removal sequence we are aplying. Don't be scared to play a session where there are. Few 25 betting numbers in play, Just keep playing according to my (turbo's) rules and you Will Always win, or like Turbo said; as Long as there are repeaters and as Long you Keep in mind that 1s Will become 2s and 2s Will Always Will become 3s you Will never loose again.
Have fun by testing. If you Have any questions. Feel free to aks - Eddy

[Anthony Cusamano]

Hi Eddy

Great post, thanks for sharing.

I tried something similar to this before and like you had a good run of winning sessions. The problem I had was when numbers with 25chips on them don't hit again. I had sessions where you can get quite a few of them together that don't hit again and it brings down your bankroll.

I think there has to be a limit on the number of spins we play the numbers for to avoid when numbers go cold and limit those drawdowns.

[jekhb76]

Hi Eddy

Great post, thanks for sharing.

I tried something similar to this before and like you had a good run of winning sessions. The problem I had was when numbers with 25chips on them don't hit again. I had sessions where you can get quite a few of them together that don't hit again and it brings down your bankroll.

You're welcome,
Well then you don't aply my cacelation system. when played well you can't get that many 25s on board it just can't. a few, but not many. it doesn't matter how many spins go by, you will end in profit. when they start to hit 2 or 3 in a short period of time after not showing a time, they hit big time. just need the right bankroll. hope this helps. leet me know if you need more help.

I think there has to be a limit on the number of spins we play the numbers for to avoid when numbers go cold and limit those drawdowns.

[Madi]

 Use ur 3000 unit to make another 3000 in every session. Not 30. Its a make ur br double scheme or 0.

[jekhb76]

Use ur 3000 unit to make another 3000 in every session. Not 30. Its a make ur br double scheme or 0.

You are kiddin' Right? Don't know how Long you mostly stay at a casino, but i mostly go home in a few hours, not inzending to sleep there 
And further more, why risk so many units at one session? I don't get it. The change that you must your bankroll is much higher when playing that way, because to do so you need to raise your chips like Crazy.

[fossell]

So to condense things if I may, for your readers:

You're playing 1/5/25 units on 'all' 2/3/4's respectively, within 37/38 spins.
You always reset on a new high balance.

Your removal process isn't quite clear. What do you do with 2s and 3s and 4s if they start to drop out of your 'last' 37 spins without having hit and provided a new high balance?

Betting 'every' 2/3/4 will eventually land you with a 'lot' of bets on the table.

Every 37 spin count has approx 10 x 2s â€" 1-3 x 3s â€" 0-2 x 4s.
If you're covering them all and still not at a new high balance you will be 'relying' on 4's (25units) to bring you back to profit.

If you're also betting 'multiple' top level (25 units) for essentially 4's to become 5's from spin 37-74, thats also going to get costly. You are essentially relying on clusters of hi-level stakes to hit and bring you back to profit.
And as often as that does happen, when it doesn't your BR will have quite a dent.

The basic are there though. And a removal process makes sense.

[Madi]

U can get 1 chip higher and finish. Up to u. I m referring to wht TG does. Win loss ratio 1:1 . In real casino get 1000 unit make it double or more and finish the session.