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[boyd30]

where did you see original post ...thx

In this thread. An earlier post.

[boyd30]

The problem with this, and the whole premise that repeaters and hot numbers are better than betting randomly or on "cold" numbers, is that there is no reason why numbers which have hit once, twice, or X times will hit again while you're betting on them. Turbo doesn't seem to understand why it's not silly to bet on the numbers which haven't appeared, he says "why on earth would you?".

umm... because those numbers have the same chance of hitting as any others?

The faulty logic is that numbers which have hit will be more likely to hit again. That would be true if the outcomes were not random, but they are random. If you collect some spins and sort them hottest to coldest there is no tendency for those at the top of the list to hit more often than any further down the list. Numbers at the top can turn cold and numbers at the bottom can become hot, and there's no consistent pattern to it. This shouldn't be any big surprise given that outcomes are independent.

I wrote a program some years ago which tested many values of X, Y, and Z for the system: "bet on the numbers which have hit X times in the last Y spins, for z spins. X, Y and Z can take many values ranging from 1 to whatever you like. X can take the value zero too, meaning that there have been no hits in the last Y spins. Each value of X, Y, and Z represents a different system. It took a couple of days to get the results because there were thousands of systems, but in the end no system performed better than any other. Again, just what you would expect from the maths.

Bayes has a good point here.

[maestro]

Bayes has a good point here.

he always does...

[boyd30]

The correct way to look at it is to do proper testing.
See the maximum drawdown and the current bankroll balance - once you've tested
enough spins.
If your max drawdown is 2k and your current bankroll is 20k - then you're fine.
If your current bankroll over many tested spins is still less then the biggest drawdown - don't continue on with that line of thinking.
As I said - my way doesn't require digging out of holes. There are drawdowns and yes it recovers every single time. As long as a numbers repeat - it can't lose.

It sounds so easy. Is it?

[nottophammer]

If your max drawdown is 2k and your current bankroll is 20k - then you're fine.

The above is Turbo,
Boyd30 if you was to open a player accont at MPR, you'd have a 1000 units. Would 1,5,25 last a 1000 units?

So the ? is how many #'s you going to have in play.

I got to 10'000 units and lost the lot as wifey interupted the game, but i got back to 10'000 in a day using 1,5,25 but i only had 4 hot #'s.
I went on to get upto 25'000+ units and blew the lot as i used 5,25,50,100

I think, well could see as i could not increase to 125 unit as max was 100, i was trapped, all though the 4 hot kept hitting, the prog needed to go up, as couldn't,  the BR was taking a hammering.
I lost the lot, but i carried on to see if it would turn around, answer NO.

Now the ? about MPR, i have since tried the 1,5,25 and everytime lost, so your telling me i just happen to keep running into the RFH, Hmm

[nottophammer]

this is where i'm now


This is using just 4 hot #'s, as you see i have got back to 10'000+ with reset the BR, i need to get to around 13'000 units, then i think i'll have a win rate of 1.0

So i'll keep at it, but like the player name says MPR fucks you by crashing, i am not alone in this argument

[boyd30]

Notto, I'm just re-reading this thread trying to understand better what Turbo says. Of course he doesn't reveal the details so it's a guessing game. I can only test in RX so I can't say for others. I test manually so it takes time. So far all failed.

[boyd30]

Maybe play repeaters that hit within 8 spins? (just thinking out loud).

[nottophammer]

57 spins using 5,10,15,25

[nottophammer]

Boyd
The time machine 38 spins, i'm lucky don't have that extra number, but i'd say the game was perfect to LOTT.

Now he says the #'s that showed twice- those 5 #'s would be a nice profit, but theres 25 to choose from, so how many are being bet from the 1st repeat.
I,perhaps i should, do not read everything posted, after a few replies i just start trying different ways, like you, perhaps i should look at the film, but nah,
i'll just use the 4 hottest.
Worked on Friday in the bookies and thats RNG.

Its like GUT i eventually got to read GUT but not all of it, i skipped thru some replies as you can see they are a load of shite. But Huck huckster, think thats their name posted good info, got a lot from them replies, like Den he gives good tips.

[nottophammer]

Ok
just left R-Sim posted in ROTT

now lets see if i can avoid the crash on MPR

[boyd30]

I still think, with a good and clear wayis
Magic 8
I do not know if I played well.
I was waiting for this 8th repeater showed up and played only this one number, than hit 9th time, always end session. I used a positive progression 1/3/9
Just when hit next session was higher step.
My tests were not long because in this method you have to wait, I'm testing almost everything, unfortunately in BV rng,  if there is waiting for it,  I got all the time disconnections

But the results were really good, as someone has time, I recommend testing
This  is  only  for  rng.

I have tested a bit of this 8 Magic.I played it flatbetting in 35 spins and got some good result. But then I had a couple of bad result. The negative
thing is the waiting time.

[nottophammer]

Used to aggressive prog was at 100 unit in no time, had to take units down, BR up and down like a whores knickers.
As Den says you can get back, so abandoned the game.

And guess what 4 spins only other player leaves and crashes

[nottophammer]

not so aggressive, seems better

[Roulettebeater]

where's tuner to lock up this thread?