@ turbo

[nottophammer]

where's tuner to lock up this thread?

keeping you monitored, must take all his time up

[Roulettebeater]

monitored

you are funny guy, i dunno if i told you before that i like your excel files so much ... keep them up

[ayk]

First of all I hope my thought will be clearly understandable, as english is not my native language 

Hi, my next question is related to geiger theory. My thoughts involving ROTT to the counter. For those who saw the sience video, for every ^x cycle, u know the geiger is ticking more and more constantly. So lets assume the first cycle is related to our full package of 37 numbers, In theory 66% of my numbers in avg should hit after 37 spins. For the sake of easiness I say 24 # hit and that completes my first digit. NOW, for my next cycle (second digit of geiger), I again apply ROTT, but only on hit numbers of my previouse cycle. I continue this over and over. That means for every "digit" the sum of hit # shrinks. Mathematically something like 37/38 * ROTT^x.

As an example lets say Im looking for all numbers which hit once. That would mean for an european table 37*(2/3)^1 (roughly 24 hits).
For numbers which hit 3 times 37*(2/3)^3 (11 hits)
And for the sake of hunting numbers which hit 8 times  37*(2/3)^8 (1,44 so 1 number!)

What this means is I assume after 8 cycles, only ONE! number of my starting 37 numbers will repeat 8 times (in theory).

I dont know if my theory makes sense, but I like the idea.

Cheers

[jekhb76]

First of all I hope my thought will be clearly understandable, as english is not my native language 

Hi, my next question is related to geiger theory. My thoughts involving ROTT to the counter. For those who saw the sience video, for every ^x cycle, u know the geiger is ticking more and more constantly. So lets assume the first cycle is related to our full package of 37 numbers, In theory 66% of my numbers in avg should hit after 37 spins. For the sake of easiness I say 24 # hit and that completes my first digit. NOW, for my next cycle (second digit of geiger), I again apply ROTT, but only on hit numbers of my previouse cycle. I continue this over and over. That means for every "digit" the sum of hit # shrinks. Mathematically something like 37/38 * ROTT^x.

As an example lets say Im looking for all numbers which hit once. That would mean for an european table 37*(2/3)^1 (roughly 24 hits).
For numbers which hit 3 times 37*(2/3)^3 (11 hits)
And for the sake of hunting numbers which hit 8 times  37*(2/3)^8 (1,44 so 1 number!)

What this means is I assume after 8 cycles, only ONE! number of my starting 37 numbers will repeat 8 times (in theory).

I dont know if my theory makes sense, but I like the idea.

Cheers

Sounds interesting. Please Keep goin' on your tests, Who knows what you May find, or how this can be addapted in a real play. Thanks for thinking with us. Have a great day.

[nottophammer]

Was Turbo taking the piss with the giger counter film

[wiggy]

Can't speak for Turbo, but I would say no!  I am pretty certain he wasn't.  In fact, you only need to look at all your stats to see that there are a lot of things in roulette that seem to tally up fairly accurately on a regular basis.

[nottophammer]

Wiggy i've never watched it, having watched the film do you see anyway it would help to find the repeats on the graph

[Madi]

No i didnt got anything in that vedio just saying it is predictable. The way they r predicting will not help in gambling.

[wiggy]

I remember studying that chart Notto along with the numbers provided on the other site and I thought they were a few mistakes because I couldn't understand how one or two numbers were not bet. Regarding the video, I think everyone is going to come to different conclusions and what it means to them depending on their own experiences and what's the flavour of the month in their research.  I think the gaps can play a very important part regarding bet selection on a few different levels.
This chart here comprises of up to 2 cycles on the left. (spins 1-74) and just the second cycle (spins 38-74) on the right. The orange indicates a gap of less than 10 spins and then the red indicates a further gap of less than 10 spins. Someone could play 4 of these orange numbers for 9 spins = 36 chips before upping the ante kind of like the way we all think Turbo does it. I find it interesting how a lot of the hits cluster around a few numbers. It's like little clusters warming up and they often do it pretty much according to the known stats. Looking at it all like this is far more interesting for me than just wondering what's the 'magic' progression.

cheers

[nottophammer]

Someone could play 4 of these orange numbers for 9 spins = 36 chips before upping the ante kind of like the way we all think Turbo does it.

Wiggy this is using the 4 hottest, i gave consideration to BR, i worked the prog to keep BR as close to start of 3000, as the BR grew could start the prog with a higher unit

[Steve]

I'll clear as few points.

1. Turbo told me he was creating a MPR test account, and serious account to rank well. His "serious" MPR account ranked reasonably well for a little while, but like every other account, he eventually tanked. Soon after he declared he wasn't going to play there anymore. He then focused on Parx and RS where he had better results. Turbo explains his negative results on MPR were because he wasn't using his best system, including in his serious account in which he attempted to rank high.

2. Turbo's reasoning for later not playing on MPR is that I record bets and might discover his system. MPR logs only basic data such that is not easily used to reverse engineer a system. But he plays at RS where the full session showing everything he does is recorded and can be replayed by the admin as a video.

It's not hard to figure it out.

[TurboGenius]

I'll clear as few points.

I'm done wasting my time with you.
Enjoy your nonsense.

Remember folks -
"If you win consistently, it's rigged.
If you lose - then you played a fair game and lost like you should.
Roulette computers work magic and Wobbling wheels will make you rich too."

Why do I bother wasting my time on these places. I have better things to do.
Maybe a forum will appear one day where people can learn from one another - instead of how they are now, where it's "him against me, me against him". What nonsense.
Someone shoot me a email when such a place appears, thanks.

[Steve]

Enjoy your nonsense.

What nonsense? Aren't these both your accounts from MPR? Both with win rate below 1. Ranked 64 and 673.



Do you really expect everyone to believe you played over 2600 spins to deliberately lose? If you were winning, you wouldn't have moved to Parx.

If you win consistently, it's rigged.

But you don't win consistently. See above. The only place you appear to be winning is Parx, which is mathematically guaranteed to give players an edge. And RS, where lots of people seem to have the HG.

Roulette computers work magic and Wobbling wheels will make you rich too

Well they are the only approach I know that can get a 150% edge. Does your bet selection do this with flat bets?

Maybe a forum will appear one day where people can learn from one another

Ok so we should shut up and accept your word that Parx is not rigged, and ignore the very clear proof it is rigged?

instead of how they are now, where it's "him against me, me against him". What nonsense.

Any good forum has a balance of information, and what you call "naysayers", who know better and can weed bullshit - and substantiate it with verifiable fact. You call it "nonsense".

[Steve]

Also you expect people to believe you wont play MPR (where you're losing) because... I might steal your system.
But you gladly play at RS where the admin can see VIDEO RECORDINGS of your sessions.

And you expect people to believe you waste weeks with FUN money instead of playing for real.

Would YOU believe it, if anyone else made such claims?

On top of all that, your claims about how your system works are all backwards and contradictory.

I'm not an asshole Turbo, I'm just being realistic and honest. If your system really worked and everything indicated this was likely, rather than the opposite, I would say it and congratulate you. But unfortunately every indication is that your system does not work, and you are misleading people.

[TurboGenius]

But unfortunately every indication is that your system does not work, and you are misleading people.

Not to worry, I'm done posting.
As I just said at the other forum, my casino results will speak volumes and then
excuses can be made as to how I somehow won.
The game has been beaten - I intend to display that with results and then enjoy the accomplishment.
There's no need to continue posting on the topic - others are working hard on it
I see and they'll do just fine as a few have paid attention to what I've posted.
The nonsense will also continue from others and I have no reason to be a part of it any further.
Cheers.