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[nottophammer]

This is Morts numbers today. Now playing repeats i can win +490 the R2; spin 32; and dont drop a single R1.

You talk of dropping #'s please explain which R1's to drop.

Now you talk of balance; well we see balance here, in spins 11-40; 15 non-hit and 15 repeats

Lets look forward to spin 60, 30 non-hit so what are the other 30, you know its balance.

This happens again and again,

[Ricky]

I'm not sure that I understand your post.
Anything based on repeaters will work, as long as there isn't "balance".
On the even money bets you could see balance - 60 reds and 60 blacks for example.
Nothing would really work on these very well.
On the straight up bets there is almost never balance or equality.
A number could show 10 times in 80 spins, another number might not show at all.
You have to focus on how to win on the repeater.
If there were balance within the numbers appearing (it wouldn't be random) - then
just like the even money bets, it would be incredibly hard to win - but that's not the case.
While in a session there might be a lack of repeaters of course - but this changes.
You won't have 37 numbers in 37 spins without a repeat,
The farther you go into the future, the more imbalanced it gets -
With the proper progression you can't lose. Wins recovers bets lost prior.
I've said this for a long time but the naysayers won't understand it.
Here's a simple 4 step progression - controlled, no higher bets than 4 steps and
controlled number of bets being placed on the table that anyone could do.
The math supports this as well - but I have to watch or else I'm being misleading (lol).
Let me know if that helps.
Below I just ran off spins (rng) showing clearly how repeaters don't work).
(yes, being sarcastic)


And here were the hot and cold numbers (and average appearing numbers)


And here is my results, as you can see - not perfect at all (never claimed to be).
In purple at the numbers I won on at the highest step in my progression.
So as you can see, I missed opportunities on #s 2,9,15,17,18,36
and I had large bets on a few of the under performers #s 5,19,29 even though
they still won for me and made profit.

I've said over and over - you don't have
to be perfect, you only need to structure your bets in such a way that you're
betting on a few of the hottest numbers and the progression has to be
aggressive and not a mild one.
You can make this chart over and over for as long as you like with the same
winning results.

Hi TG
Thanks for posting your explanation of the imbalance of the wheel for straight up numbers. I am finding some success with this attack and am looking to perfect the identification of an imbalanced wheel vs a balanced wheel so that I can find the trigger to start betting at the ideal time. The below screenshot is the StdDev details of all numbers over a 148 spin cycle. I do not use stats over the whole session because the dominant numbers are always changing so you want to concentrate on the ones that are repeating in the near term.
My idea is to create some rules around which numbers to start betting with a specific progression and number of bets. Based on your charts you would bet on all numbers with StdDev > 0. But what I am finding is the numbers showing this vary depending if they are coming out more evenly close to the mean number over the cycle. So what would be your estimation of when is the ideal time to start betting these numbers? And what limits do you put? Say your betting more than 1 number (or do you?) will you bet them for a max 36 units (ie 2 numbers for 18 spins) before increasing progression? Also will you re-evaluate the balance after these spins to determine if you should continue betting these numbers or do you change your numbers when increasing progression?

[ignatus]

betting on a few of the hottest numbers and the progression has to be
aggressive and not a mild one.
You can make this chart over and over for as long as you like with the same
winning results.

Thanks TG, for a simple explanation, and finally revealing your 'hotnumbers-method' i think it's similar to Mr.j's old 'catch the 8-train' atleast that's how i played it; i was +800u in about 100 spins (5u bets) now, playing on MPR,..RX crashed so i can't show the charts,:S but i can explain how *i* played it; ....

(catch-the-8-train method); track numbers until you got a number repeating 2-3 times, now you start betting, OK, 1u bets  Now, you bet all repeters, hitting 2 times, (agressive progression i used--> simple martingale) IF numbers bet was to be more than 5-6 numbers DOUBLE once. now, every new number bet (more than 5-6 numberS) bet with 2u, ....so You get first Hit NOW you let those numbers bet *remain* and DOUBLE again, as you get a second hit, reset to 1u. And bet only the single hottest , and bet anew every number hit +3-4 times (restart procedure) you don't *need to double twice* IF the hit comes before 5-6 numbers bet, BUT i always keep the numbers , (double once) and wait for a *second hit* of those hottest of the hot. OK...that's how i played it, anyway...and thanks again TG for a reminder of this simple and effective method. I think many find it useful.

[nottophammer]

My idea is to create some rules around which numbers to start betting with a specific progression and number of bets. Based on your charts you would bet on all numbers with StdDev > 0. But what I am finding is the numbers showing this vary depending if they are coming out more evenly close to the mean number over the cycle. So what would be your estimation of when is the ideal time to start betting these numbers? And what limits do you put? Say your betting more than 1 number (or do you?) will you bet them for a max 36 units (ie 2 numbers for 18 spins) before increasing progression? Also will you re-evaluate the balance after these spins to determine if you should continue betting these numbers or do you change your numbers when increasing progression?

Read this paragraph, it's the best reply i've seen, some will know what i mean.

If you can't see it, read again and again

[Andre Chass]

So I bet hot numbers using aggressive progression and I'll win thousand of dollars... That's the hg... haha

[The General]

Turbo-You won't have 37 numbers in 37 spins without a repeat,

Actually I've seen it happen on an RNG simulation.  Regardless, what you're missing is the fact that the method will still lose overtime, regardless of whether 37 number fall in 37 spins or not.

-Turbo-The math supports this as well.

No, actually the math doesn't support your system, (and you've never posted any math. LOL!).      On the contrary.  The math says that your system won't work because a number that has just hit is no more likely than a cold number to hit again during the next series of spins.  The math says that the long term expectation for a repeater to hit is only .027 for the single zero wheel, and .026 for the double zero wheel.  Unfortunately the payoff is short at 35 to 1.   This means that in the long run you will lose, all because there's just one or two tooo many numbers on the wheel.

Why is it that system players like yourself can't look beyond the short term?  After all, the long term is what matters!

If you need help with the math, then check out the wizardofodds.com or I can help teach it to you.

[nottophammer]

So I bet hot numbers using aggressive progression and I'll win thousand of dollars... That's the hg... haha

you'll need to think about it a bit more Andre 16 minutes not long enough haha

[The General]

So I bet hot numbers using aggressive progression and I'll win thousand of dollars... That's the hg... haha

Actually that's called chasing your losses while betting on hot numbers.

The Achilles heel is of course a hot number that suddenly goes cold for 300 or 400 spins, meanwhile you're betting more an more while praying that you get a hit. 

[Andre Chass]

Actually I've seen it happen on an RNG simulation.  Regardless, what you're missing is the fact that the method will still lose overtime, regardless of whether 37 number fall in 37 spins or not.

No, actually the math doesn't support your system, (and you've never posted any math. LOL!).      On the contrary.  The math says that your system won't work because a number that has just hit is no more likely than a cold number to hit again during the next series of spins.  The math says that the long term expectation for a repeater to hit is only .027 for the single zero wheel, and .026 for the double zero wheel.  Unfortunately the payoff is short at 35 to 1.   This means that in the long run you will lose, all because there's just one or two tooo many numbers on the wheel.

Why is it that system players like yourself can't look beyond the short term?  After all, the long term is what matters!

If you need help with the math, then check out the wizardofodds.com or I can help teach it to you.

I don't neet to think about  it more than 16 min... The general have said what I think about hot numbers...

I've been through that... And it's a waste of time

[nottophammer]

The math says that your system won't work because a number that has just hit is no more likely than a cold number to hit again during the next series of spins.

But General at the start of the game there’s 37 cold #’s, the 37 cold numbers are not all going to hit once only, out of the 37 spins, General-ly theres 24 cold #’s hit, the other 13 spins have to become something, I’ll let you work that out

Andre you stick to Bac you've cracked that

[Andre Chass]

Andre you stick to Bac you've cracked that

As I said before... If you want losing your mind, your money, your social life, your family, your job... Stay stuck at roulette table. If you want make serious money go to baccarat

[The General]

But General at the start of the game there’s 37 cold #’s, the 37 cold numbers are not all going to hit once only, out of the 37 spins, General-ly theres 24 cold #’s hit, the other 13 spins have to become something, I’ll let you work that out

Andre you stick to Bac you've cracked that

Notto,

You're having a  problem related to the wording and time.  If you wait for a number to hit before you begin betting on it, then the number might not hit again at all, leaving you betting on a number that remains cold.    Likewise if you wait for a number to hit twice before you begin betting on it you could begin betting on it, only to have the number never hit while playing it and chasing your losses with the progression.

General-ly theres 24 cold #’s hit, the other 13 spins have to become something, I’ll let you work that out

So?  You still have no way of knowing which numbers will continue hitting and which ones won't.

[nottophammer]

General or is it Dafthead
2 different days work it out



KFC everyone, i'm pissing me pants

[The General]

KFC everyone, i'm pissing me pants

Why because at spin 56 your LOSING over 1500 units?

[Andre Chass]

Actually that's called chasing your losses while betting on hot numbers.

The Achilles heel is of course a hot number that suddenly goes cold for 300 or 400 spins, meanwhile you're betting more an more while praying that you get a hit. 

That's what the hot numbers strategy is all about