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[jekhb76]

Well, now, IF 'hotnumbers' were to have a 'special' good hitrate, then i would be a winner, but now??? Betting 7 of the hottest of the hotnumbers. playing as adviced from TG, "with an agressive progression" i lost my whole BR....now who is the fool here? me? yes? i must try everything many times, and fail many times, obviously, before i learn?? So, good people, don't play 'hotnumbers' , steve was right all along. "hotnumbers" do not have a "special good hitrate" Thank you

Repeaters (hotnumbers) one way to play and win with this game.
It's a real good bet to follow the hottest ones. Do you win All the Time? No, but the numbers that do hit Will Make up for my losses. You only need to know how to select them.

[ignatus]

Why on earth 7 hotnumbers??
You don't need to.
Do you still Have the numbers that go with this session? Can i replay it.

yes, i know, maybe too many , maybe not? (i was playing on the MPR) Point IS i was betting these 7 "HOT" for a LONG time, and they didn't hit--point proven. "HOT"-numbers do not have a 'special good hitrate'.....reason why you play with less numbers, ofcourse that will increase chance of hit.---(That is another story, and has nothing to do with "hot" numbers)..Try flatbet 24 numbers in RX, then you flatbet 2-3 numbers, OFCOURSE it's a difference, ..anyway :/

[jekhb76]

yes, i know, maybe too many , maybe not? (i was playing on the MPR) Point IS i was betting these 7 "HOT" for a LONG time, and they didn't hit--point proven. "HOT"-numbers do not have a 'special good hitrate'.....reason why you play with less numbers, ofcourse that will increase chance of hit.---(That is another story, and has nothing to do with "hot" numbers)..Try flatbet 24 numbers in RX, then you flatbet 2-3 numbers, OFCOURSE it's a difference, ..anyway :/

At some Point, the cold numbers Will try to catch up with the hotnumbers, they Always Will try that, and some Will succes. Not play the sessions to Long, you don't need to reset to continue playing the same numbers! I know that after a few hundred spins the game Will be More balanced out, that's the reason i Will only play when the game is not in balance.

[nottophammer]

I'm fed up of posting this, surely you know now what the averages show.



So General daft head (Worzel Gummidge) these short set of spins from Mortagon. KTF +66 its made the 50/+50 read the topic.
Repeats, using R1's spin 28; -19, spin 33; +85 using 9, R1's, reset.

Paragraph from Ricky, Read it

My idea is to create some rules around which numbers to start betting with a specific progression and number of bets. Based on your charts you would bet on all numbers with StdDev > 0. But what I am finding is the numbers showing this vary depending if they are coming out more evenly close to the mean number over the cycle. So what would be your estimation of when is the ideal time to start betting these numbers? And what limits do you put? Say your betting more than 1 number (or do you?) will you bet them for a max 36 units (ie 2 numbers for 18 spins) before increasing progression? Also will you re-evaluate the balance after these spins to determine if you should continue betting these numbers or do you change your numbers when increasing progression?

Giving it away 

[nottophammer]

I'm done, but will i be able to resist replying to meaningless replies to non-hit or repeats.

Thanks for your time, use the average 15 to come in spins 11-40, be it for non-hit or repeat, good luck

[Nimo]

as i said hotnumbers fall asleep

What I have noticed is hot numbers in general, hit in 10 hit cycles

[ZERO]

I'm fed up of posting this, surely you know now what the averages show.

We get it, thanks for the effort Notto! 

[cht]

Sure - hot numbers go cold (or stay hot)
Cold numbers go hot (or stay cold)
Average numbers go hot or cold (or stay average)
It's not relevant to what I'm doing. As I clearly showed, I didn't win on all of the hottest
numbers and I ended up playing some cold ones too. I still won and BIGLY.

Nope,.. I never do that. (and praying isn't needed, the wins happen)

Sorry PassionRuleta, I had typed up a long reply and when I hit post it said
something along the lines of "you are not allowed to post in this forum" (along those
lines). I'm sure it's a glitch of some sort ((never even saved a draft so the entire reply was lost)).... I'll retype it tomorrow I suppose.)

I've been reading TG and Vaddis shit - I think I got it. This is what I think how both of them bet. Played flatbet conservatively without chasing huge winners to avoid losses drawdown else the graph can be more exponentially dramatic if use eg. 1-3-5.

[Scarface]

Now let's see i was lucky this time,....but what i noticed, is after about 7-8 repeats these 'hotnumbers' usually fall alseep(?) am i wrong? i think *re-tracking* is needed after some numbers have hit 7-8 times----'Hotnumbers' won't be 'hot' forever, *new numbers* will become become the hottest....that's what i believe anyway,

Can I make a suggestion on something I've had some success with?  Try getting on the "new hot numbers."  What I mean by this is the most recent repeaters, and limit them to only 3.

First, look at the most recent 3 repeaters and play them.  Stay on these numbers as long as they keep hitting...do not change them.

If you do not get a hit in 12 spins, change your bet selection to the most recent 3 repeaters again and play the same way.

A +1/-1 progression works pretty good for this if you chose to use a progression.  At some point you will have one or two numbers that stand out and gets a great hitrate over a couple sessions.  Check it out 

[cht]

Sure - hot numbers go cold (or stay hot)
Cold numbers go hot (or stay cold)
Average numbers go hot or cold (or stay average)
It's not relevant to what I'm doing. As I clearly showed, I didn't win on all of the hottest
numbers and I ended up playing some cold ones too. I still won and BIGLY.

That's how the numbers mix if you are looking for a clue. I didn't play continuously instead waited for favourable conditions.

[Scarface]

Actually that's called chasing your losses while betting on hot numbers.

The Achilles heel is of course a hot number that suddenly goes cold for 300 or 400 spins, meanwhile you're betting more an more while praying that you get a hit. 

Sure, a hot number can become cold for several hundred spins.  That's why I play just a small amount of hotties for a certain number of spins.  If you don't get a hit, switch to the most recent hotties.  By switching you will avoid the type of loss you are talking about. 

We don't know why numbers become hot.  Could be nothing but basic probability, and variance.  Could be bias, or wheel defect.  Could be dealer signature.  Who knows. 

I don't really care about why.  Look at any sample of short term spins...say 100 to 200 spins.  You will see a anywhere from 1-3 numbers stand out and take the lead.  This is why I suggest playing a small sample of hotties.  And yes, hotties do change so you have to change with it when the hits stop.

The goal here is to reduce variance.  Variance is usually what beats the player.  If your bet selection can reduce variance, then the house edge is insignificant.  For example, if I knew that I can get 1 hit in 5 spins playing a dozen numbers, then I have a winning system! If you were looking at the math alone, you would call it a loser. 

Reducing variance is the key to a winning system. 

[The General]

The goal here is to reduce variance.  Variance is usually what beats the player.  If your bet selection can reduce variance, then the house edge is insignificant.  For example, if I knew that I can get 1 hit in 5 spins playing a dozen numbers, then I have a winning system! If you were looking at the math alone, you would call it a loser. 

Reducing variance is the key to a winning system.

NO.  If you don't have the edge over the casino, then the last thing you want to do is to do a way with variance.  Variance aka LUCK is your chance to win!  (or to lose.) If you do away with it, then you're left losing at the house edge.  For example, bet every number on the roulette wheel and you've removed all variance, and you'll, of course, lose at exactly the house edge.

[The General]

At some Point, the cold numbers Will try to catch up with the hotnumbers, they Always Will try that, and some Will succes. Not play the sessions to Long, you don't need to reset to continue playing the same numbers! I know that after a few hundred spins the game Will be More balanced out, that's the reason i Will only play when the game is not in balance.

Oh really?  On the live wheel,  the more spins you have, the less balanced the data will appear.   

[Scarface]

NO.  If you don't have the edge over the casino, then the last thing you want to do is to do a way with variance.  Variance aka LUCK is your chance to win!  (or to lose.) If you do away with it, then you're left losing at the house edge.  For example, bet every number on the roulette wheel and you've removed all variance, and you'll, of course, lose at exactly the house edge.

Of course I mean reduce negative variance.  If positive variance is on my side, I ride it out as long as I can!  If my numbers keep hitting, I keep playing.

If numbers stop hitting, I switch to the most recent hotties, or repeaters.  Switching will never produce the losses you talked about earlier.  Look at any set of set of samples and you will see.

Who's to say I don't have an edge?  I may not know why a certain group of numbers are hot.  Sure it could be just probability.  Or something else, along the lines to temporary bias via dealer signature or wheel defect.  I don't really care why...as long as it works. 

You're obviously good at math.  But think outside the box.  I think more about sessions, not individual hits.  Not looking for 1 hit to put me back in the positive.  If you can reduce variance, you can beat this game.  Think about the simple example I gave:  if you can get 1 hit on average for every 5 spins betting a dozen...this could be easily won with not much of a progression.  The math equation says no, but using simple logic says yes

[Scarface]

A buddy of mine went to the casino with me a little while back.  Never played roulette in his life.  His strategy was simple, and effective.  He played the minimum $1 bet on a couple numbers.  I don't think he played anymore than 5 numbers at most.  As long as they were hitting, he kept playing.  If after a little while with no hits, he'd switch 1 or 2 out with most recent hotties.

First time player, keeping it simple.  Just flat betting a the most recent hotties at only $1 a number...no more than 5 numbers at most.  Won over 300 in couple hours.

Don't play a lot of numbers.  Don't get crazy with progressions.  Keep it simple