@ turbo

[Steve]

Bago has 3rd one week and 10th+ last week. Nothing whatsoever compared to what I did over MONTHS but you won't give me credit for that either.

If someone wants to code a bot for me, I could easily rank 1st on either parx fun mode or RS. The math is not complicated. It just takes time and subtle progression to do it with no resets.

Or I can show you on RX too, but RX doesnt allow betting limits like RS unless its coded into the system.

[TurboGenius]

If I had the HG I would be enjoying life ... Women, cars, trips, mansions, yachts.

I have terrible news scammer - none of those things bring someone happiness.
And from how you put it - your "riches" wouldn't last long, you would blow it all and
within a year be back on a forum selling something for 2k.
Find out what success and happiness is and you'll see it doesn't come from money.
Cheers.  (and I'm the one with mental issues...go figure)
And here I thought you were going to say :
If I had the HG I would be enjoying life ... charity, foundations for the needy, improving my community and changing as many lives for the better that I can....

Nope - the "scammer" thinks about himself ALWAYS.
Cars, Yachts and Mansions... no wonder you'll never succeed.

[TurboGenius]

You contradicted yourself again. The slots players at Parx blitz everyone. You said that was because they have a higher maximum bet.

THE PAYOUT (I'm yelling... no idea why, it won't matter....calm down...)
The payout on EVERY slot machine at Parx online is EXACTLY the same as the
payout on the SAME slot machine in their casino. For God's sake, look it up or ask them.

So yes - a slot machine with $1,000 minimum pulls is going to have players winning a million.
The math is no different than a quarter slot where the player can win 4,000 times LESS in balance in the casino.
The slot payouts are listed - look it up... tell me how it's a higher payout than the actual casino slot machine ? No, because it's exactly the same.
Big numbers compared to small numbers that compare equally confuse people ?
What if the min pull was $10,000 and the leader on the board had 30 million $ ? 
lol.
It's math - it's the same... I'm turning blue explaining the obvious.
I guess I'll go get some screen shots of the payouts for the slots games and you can compare them to the casino payout slot machines and then be astonished that
they are THE SAME.

[Steve]

The payout on EVERY slot machine at Parx online is EXACTLY the same as the payout on the SAME slot machine in their casino. For God's sake, look it up or ask them.

Inconsequential because in the real casino, you don't get thousands in free real money for free, just because you walked in the door.

The math is no different than a quarter slot where the player can win 4,000 times LESS in balance in the casino.

You still aren't understanding the relevance of the bonus money.

I'm not just talking about payouts. About bonus money and bet size. If the bets were just as large with roulette, assuming the house edge was around the same, anyone could just as easily match the slots players.

But back onto table limits.... Here's an example... starting with just $3000, this player won over $1M. In just 86 spins. This is what you can do with broad table limits. But they were a lot more aggressive than they needed to be.



Anyway Turbo this is wasting my time. If you can win millions with real money, do it, instead of wasting time with play money.

[TurboGenius]

Inconsequential because in the real casino, you don't get thousands in free real money for free, just because you walked in the door.

Correct. You take a bankroll.
If you win 100.00 over your bankroll you have 100.00 profit.
If Parx gives me a bankroll and I win 100.00 - I have 100.00 in profit.

But back onto table limits.... Here's an example... starting with just $3000, this player won over $1M. In just 86 spins. This is what you can do with broad table limits. But they were a lot more aggressive than they needed to be.

Yes !  look at the total playing chart of that player... should I post it ?
It's a saw blade downward from HELL lol.
This person can't keep doing that because they are doomed (even with all of the advantages you speak of)
So they have to play or else lose first place - and when they play they have to bet insane amounts (losing 3k countless times and then spiking up a win rarely...) or else they are screwed. It's a good example of how you can't win over time.

I on the other hand have 0 resets, never lost a single session and am in 2nd.
My chart is a continuous uphill climb with no drops.
I also never bet insane amounts - I use the exact same table limits as I have in real play.
Gosh.......how can it be.

[Steve]

Turbo, he has just 4 resets:



Your approach is mild progression. His is much more aggressive. Its still taking advantage of the table limits.

[TurboGenius]

Being we all have brains here - which one of these two players is doing it right,
and which one is heading for the inevitable doom of broke land.
One looks impossible to accomplish (amazing even)
and one looks like the absurd roller coaster of choas praying for another win before it's all lost and reset #5 happens lol. But hey, I'm bragging.. I'll stop.

[Steve]

Turbo the difference is aggressive vs mild progression.

Mild progression = slower and more stable
Aggressive = faster and more volatile

He nearly doubled your bankroll. It must mean he has the HG too. Better than yours, since he won more in less time. Is that correct logic?

Here's one with no resets, like you. Another HG:



$420,000+ from just $3000. Must be the HG. No other explanation.

Just win real money instead. Why waste all this time on play money?

[Andre Chass]

Find out what success and happiness is and you'll see it doesn't come from money.

And here I thought you were going to say :
If I had the HG I would be enjoying life ... charity, foundations for the needy, improving my community and changing as many lives for the better that I can....

So if you can do that, do that! Use your HG to make money and help others people. But no! You prefer play with with play money.
You prefer stay here fooling the people and feeding your ego.
You are a sociopath that needs attention. You stay here playing your sadistic game misleading the people. You don't reveal your system because you don't have nothing to show. You don't own the HG.
Someday the people here will realized that they are been deceived.

If you was focused on helping others you will play with real money and win a lot of money or even millions.

Im not a scammer. There's a thread In this forum to sell strategies, systems, etc, and I thought about selling one of my strategies but I gave up doing it. At least I was honest. Proofreader is selling his strategies too. What's wrong about that?

You are degrading this forum. If I were Steve you would be banned from here.

[Steve]

Example of Hector exploiting the broad and unrealistic table limits:



But even he isnt doing it the optimal way. His approach is quite clumsy, but still no resets and large profit.

You can apply this approach with any roulette, but to a much higher degree with RS.
But again let's stop all this talk and just go win your millions, in real money.

[TurboGenius]

You are degrading this forum. If I were Steve you would be banned from here.

Yeah, well... you're not.... you're a scammer system seller with no sales.

Just win real money instead. Why waste all this time on play money?

Am I supposed to say for the 10th hundredth time that I am playing with real money - in AC, at Parx in PA and now online at GN..... ?
How many times does someone have to repeat the same thing so you can pretend each and every time that I never said it ?
I'm misleading Amazing. Is this part of the game ?

Between the scammer saying "hey, why don't you play for real money ?" and the admin saying "hey, why don't you play for real money".. you both sound absurd to everyone reading this since I already clearly stated over and over that's exactly what I'm doing.
Oh why do I do this to myself.. lol.
I'm going to bed, in the morning there's probably going to be 10 more pages about how I'm lying and don't play for real money, how math is different when it's exactly the same and how I'm misleading when in reality - all the "haters" lie around me. Unreal.
Oh wait - Make Andre the scammer admin for a day so he can ban me lol
He's earned his shot at the big time ! He can ban everyone who agrees with me too !
It will be like a clearance sale where anyone who disagrees is GONE !!!!!!!!
Comical. I hope I don't have freaky dreams about this place tonight lol.
G'night

[Steve]

Am I supposed to say for the 10th hundredth time that I am playing with real money - in AC, at Parx in PA and now online at GN..... ?

I could play there, win a little, and claim I'm winning. But its a little different to winning hundreds of thousands... dont you agree?

Between the scammer saying "hey, why don't you play for real money ?" and the admin saying "hey, why don't you play for real money".. you both sound absurd

What's more absurd is you consider small wins and nearly a million dollars the same thing.

I'm going to bed, in the morning there's probably going to be 10 more pages about how I'm lying and don't play for real money

Remember, small wins vs nearly $1m. Big difference.

how math is different

Broader and unrealistic betting limits, and thousands in free money every day you walk into the casino for nothing is not different to reality?

all the "haters"

Who are you Justin Beiber? There aren't "haters". Just people who see through your logic and stories.

I hope I don't have freaky dreams about this place tonight lol.

Sweet dreams, pumkin pie.

[cht]

So, using RTM, we should play a cold number after it hits?

In the context of this specific model yes.

It is not always necessary the case where it depends on the structure of the random distribution and the opposite strategy may be more suitable.

For general info, there is mean reversion and divergence from the mean, opposite of each other with different risk profiles and application.

[cht]

U r right but its not a fallacy. Ten red in a row now i can expect that next ten spin there wont be ten red(extreme) means there can b a black at least and u can launch a marti theoritically.

74 th spin. 1 number hits 4 times and stoped there at 4s. I can see another number moving toward 4s now stationed with a 3 hit in current cycle. The average says 74 th spin u must get a number on 5s.i can expect that the 4 hitter will not perform(xtreme) like before and ligically another has to replace it and go to 5s.

We can use RTM in our favour not in fallacious way

First of all a ten red in a row is a fat tail event.

This fat tail event can be in the same direction of variance or against it.

The more important matter is the quality of variance in the current structure of distribution.

The application of RTM with lower risk profile is when the variance is not at it's upper limit, say 1 to 2 deviation.

This fat tail 10 reds in a row can then be exploited to apply this RTM strategy in this instance.

When the variance is say 3 and beyond deviation followed by a 10 red fat tail event, then RTM strategy will have too high risk profile. The opposite strategy of divergence from the mean will be the more suitable strategy.

The most basic understanding is a 10 red outcome is not variance itself but a fat tail event.

[Steve]

All that doesnt matter, because the odds of red or black are the same on the next spins. Fundamental and basic stuff. Just test properly and see.