@ turbo

[nottophammer]

TGFT

[Turner]

TGFT

I prefer the F-word over God

Nothing more to say here! 

So I will say.....Thank f*** for that!

[ZERO]

The answer to this whole debate is actually very simple:

TURBO WHY DON`T YOU JUST BEAT MPR AND PUT AN END TO IT ALL?

So what if Steve is then able to figure out your playing style, it will only be him and I am sure he will be gentleman enough to admit defeat and be discreet about your playing style.

Just thinking of the new members joining this forum in a years time as they won`t have fun catching up on a 1000 page thread...   

[cht]

The answer to this whole debate is actually very simple:

TURBO WHY DON`T YOU JUST BEAT MPR AND PUT AN END TO IT ALL?

So what if Steve is then able to figure out your playing style, it will only be him and I am sure he will be gentleman enough to admit defeat and be discreet about your playing style.

Just thinking of the new members joining this forum in a years time as they won`t have fun catching up on a 1000 page thread...   

NO NEVER DO THAT !!!

Steve can go fark himself for all whoever cares.

NEVER EVER FALL INTO THIS SCUMBAG TRICKSTERS TRAP !!!

[Steve]

1. He already tried, and lost. With 2 accounts.

2. Now he makes every excuse and effort to avoid mpr.

3. You are on moderation. Calling me a scumbag trickster for creating a free realistic simulator/game for members here does not make me a scumbag trickster. If i wanted to steal repeaters systems, i would save video of sessions like rs does, where turbo incredibly prefers for the privacy of his system. Cant figure it out?..

4. Ive already offered anyone who can beat rng $100k, which is more than any legitimate offer I've seen. But turbo says he only wants to win small amounts with his hg, and seems to prefer testing on proven unrealistic games for fun money. Besides, turbos system is far from the hg. Anyone paying attention would know that now.

[daveylibra]

This is getting interesting!

There must be a way for someone to prove he has a winning system without revealing everything.

Quote - 4. Ive already offered anyone who can beat rng $100k, which is more than any legitimate offer I've seen. But turbo says he only wants to win small amounts with his hg, and seems to prefer testing on proven unrealistic games for fun money.

I cannot believe someone only wants to win small amounts. How about the charities, hospitals schools etc etc.

So what is the $100k challenge? Come on Turbo, take him up on the challenge! After all the denials he has posted about the possibility of your system, wouldn't it give you satisfaction?

[Roulettebeater]

The main issue with all this turbosmus is that the concept is f***** up!
how can one win with a bad concept? noway ...thats not possible unless he works for a house!

[Turner]

You are on moderation. Calling me a scumbag trickster

what about "Dingo shagging drongo"

Can I say that?

[TurboGenius]

So what if Steve is then able to figure out your playing style, it will only be him and I am sure he will be gentleman enough to admit defeat and be discreet about your playing style.

Ummm. sure. lol

NO NEVER DO THAT !!!

No worries, I don't intend to unless there's a good reason to. And I can't think of much that would be worth giving that kind of info out.

1. He already tried, and lost. With 2 accounts.

Nope, I never used a HG on the one account and the other account was made (just as I told you again and again) to figure out how the cheating was going on, which I did. Then told you about it and how they were doing it  - and I assume it's fixed now. But hell, whatever.

4. Ive already offered anyone who can beat rng $100k

Is that the one I read about (or was it Wizard's challenge) where you have to beat like a million spins and then do it two more times and provide the full explanation so that it can be coded (coughs) or something along those lines ?
What exactly are you paying out 100k for ? I need specifics and it would be by my rules, not absurd millions of spins. We all know (who know math) exactly how many combinations there can be and how many spins specifically it would take to test a specific way of playing (it requires no "Spins" at all, it's just math - a wheel or RNG isn't needed to prove a thing - that's how I can rightly claim my results are true as it handles all of the possible outcomes. But anyway, I'm not against taking your 100k and giving it to charity.
(Damn, I have to find a woman named Charity now.... lol).

[TurboGenius]

I won't respond to your valid question for obvious reasons - this is as far as I will go on forums.

One of the smartest posters in this thread.
Someone who's been listening and actually gets it - gets how and why it works.
Cheers. Keep at it.

[Steve]

A million consecutive spins isn't practical in the real world

You are missing the point of large volume testing. More data = more assured. Such testing is both practical and necessary with automated software like Roulette Xtreme. It virtually eliminates the possibility of short term variance/luck. If you are stuck thinking "but i dont need a system to win over that many spins", you are stuck in classic fallacy again.

So what if Steve is then able to figure out your playing style

I already know his working principles. He has revealed more than enough for anyone to see, then test to know better.

it will only be him and I am sure he will be gentleman enough to admit defeat and be discreet about your playing style.

I would be. I'm an honest person.

[Steve]

I never used a HG on the one account

You tried to rank first and didnt use your best system? Nonsense. But you used it on RS where you sessions are video recorded.

The loophole you found allowed cheating the bankroll, not the win rate. And yes that is fixed.

What exactly are you paying out 100k for ?

To buy the system.

I need specifics and it would be by my rules, not absurd millions of spins

What are your rules?

And what's wrong with coding RX to test your system properly over a large amount of spins?

We all know (who know math) exactly how many combinations there can be and how many spins specifically it would take to test a specific way of playing (it requires no "Spins" at all, it's just math - a wheel or RNG isn't needed to prove a thing - that's how I can rightly claim my results are true as it handles all of the possible outcomes

You've proved many times you don't understand the math.

But anyway, I'm not against taking your 100k and giving it to charity.

Ok so let's talk terms. I propose you code your system into RX.

1. First you can test on a spin file I provide. If you beat that, lock your system in an encrypted file.

2. I move the funds to escrow and you can see they exist.

3. I provide another spin file, and you test with that too. If results are positive:

4. We unlock the system file and test both sets of spins. And if both show the same results, payment is released to you.

Sound fair?

A neutral member here can control the escrow and verify the results. Then you get paid US$100,000.

Sound good? Nice and fair? Ready to proceed?

What other terms would you like?

[Taotie]

I'll code it for 10G's with a legal written promise never to use it or share it.

You still get 90 grand Turbo, what d'ya reckon?

[TurboGenius]

To buy the system.

Ahh understood, sorry I was mistaken.
I thought it was a challenge as in - you would give such a prize to someone who could prove beating roulette, but it is a purchase in which case it makes no sense to continue.
I can make that amount using it myself and on the way to doing that.
Shame the real world works slower than "turbo" mode online and RX.
But with the decreased speed and allowing the bankroll to grow over time, it will get there and well beyond that. I'm patient.
My "real" play balance will never be a point of interest anyway - it won't be "enough spins" unless I could play millions of spins over the remainder of my life (lol). I don't need to do that - just math.
Thanks for clearing it up though, makes sense - just not interested.

[Steve]

Ok turbo, lets make ir just a challenge and i never get the system. But there still must be a way to verify the same system is applied for both sets of spins.

Although you already avoided the challenge with excuses about combinations and complexities that make coding in rx impossible.

How peculiar, though expected.