@ turbo

[falkor2k15]

It is truly one astounding math coincidence (I use that word to please both sides lol).
It's impossible yet it's there. Also fun is that the planets orbit the sun - but the sun actually orbits a position quite far away from it's center. Science teaches us one thing - we don't know a damn thing when it comes down to it. Everything that was "fact" for centuries is being proven wrong, and every day we have to change what the facts are as we learn more.
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Kind of like roulette - where everyone will state what "experts" have said over and over - that it can't be beaten with math or a system. But hey, the experts are the experts I guess.

Would you have spoken like this before you found the HG? Or has the HG freed your spirit in such a way where you are not afraid to now speak so openly? My guess is that you've met some powerful people since discovering the HG that has changed your perspective?

[Madi]

Turbo,

How about that challenge?

AC?
NY?
Vegas?
Bahamas?

When, where?

Lets assume u both r playing in steves kitchen in a challange of 5 days play(8hr a day)

General win  $9000(3 times)
Turbo  win $3000

Does it prove that  turbos system doesnt work? He is also winning.

The challange would be turbo will lose  at house or more and u ll be at plus.

This 2 time 3 times doesnt make sense.( ofcourse 1 is smaller than 3 times)

Miyao

[MoneyT101]

So what's the difference, if any, between constantly betting the same 2 dozens or trying to follow a past number sequence that requires different dozens but still results in break even? That's the question I think we need to focus on. Maybe TG has a winning method, but he doesn't understand how it works.

What’s crazy is it all goes back to non random events.  Just a different aspect of it.

Non random leads to break even! Unless you can find a way to play within that game. 

Best explanation create a world with cycles.  Then within this world find a game based on what happens.

The answers were right in front of us!

[jekhb76]

Good morning.
Guys, for once listnen.
The numbers that Have fallen within your playing session are not past numbers!

No go out and play.

[Steve]

The numbers that Have fallen within your playing session are not past numbers!

So the numbers in your playing session are not in the past? That means your "numbers and playing session" are in the future. So you are trying to predict future hot numbers. I wonder how your bet selection works, without considering past spins. 

[jekhb76]

So the numbers in your playing session are not in the past? That means your "numbers and playing session" are in the future. So you are trying to predict future hot numbers. I wonder how your bet selection works, without considering past spins. 

No Steve, you don't read 
Again, the numbers that are falling in my playing session are not past spins, and No Steve, they are not in the future !!!!
They fall in the present!
Man, i can See why Turbo is bouncing is head against the Wall All the Time 
Past spins are spins that happend before i Walk into the casino ! Why is this so difficult to crasp for Most of you?

[falkor2k15]

What’s crazy is it all goes back to non random events.  Just a different aspect of it.

Non random leads to break even! Unless you can find a way to play within that game. 

Best explanation create a world with cycles.  Then within this world find a game based on what happens.

The answers were right in front of us!

As you said both types of games break even, so let's explore the differences....

Random

Session 1: bet 1+3... lose, bet 1+3... lose, bet 1+3... lose, bet 1+3... win!
Session 2: bet 1+3... lose, bet 1+3... win!
Session 3: bet 1+3... lose, bet 1+3... lose, bet 1+3... win!

Non-Random

Session 1: bet 2+3... win, bet 1+2... win
Session 2: bet 1+3... win, bet 2+3... lose
Session 3: bet 2+3... lose

--Random bets the same dozens all the time, and the stats change from numberset to numberset (unstable):
How many losses per session before a win on double dozen 1+3? It varies depending on the dataset.

--Non-Random bets different dozens to a fixed template and results in stable stats.
How many losses per session before 2 wins in a row on a double dozen? It wins 44% of the time - stable across all datasets.

So that's the difference! And we've got several non-random ways of playing TG's method - translated here to dozens - I give two examples:
1... bet 1
12... bet 1+2
123... no bet
1231... bet 1
12312... bet 1+2
123122... 2nd repeat - end session.

or

1... bet 2+3
12... bet 3
123... no bet
1231... bet 2+3
12312... bet 3
123122... 2nd repeat - end session.

Both are following a fixed template based on repeats and uniques - and will result in stable stats - but both will still break even.

According to Priyanka we just have to record a win-loss registry and then try to reduce losses by eliminating "apples and pears". And I think this concept is based on horizontal and vertical as per reddwarf/rrbb's chart:


So, let's say TG wanted to play only repeats and ignore uniques... he would go with the first type of game (follow the leader). After establishing a new betting plan based on reduction of apples and pears, he could choose to bet uniques when the stats indicate them to be favoured over a repeat - or he just misses out the bet till the post-production template calls for a bet on the repeats, etc. That's probably how TG wins playing multiple repeats. So it's not the hot numbers that would be winning per se. It's supposedly about playing inside a non-random framework and perhaps dodging the variance within a stable session, or so the theory goes.

[Steve]

No Steve, you don't read 
Again, the numbers that are falling in my playing session are not past spins, and No Steve, they are not in the future !!!!
They fall in the present!

I must be so thick. The numbers "in your playing session" are not past spins or even future spins.

How many numbers win on a spin?

Are we talking about roulette?

[Steve]

Past spins are spins that happend before i Walk into the casino ! Why is this so difficult to crasp for Most of you?

So past spins that happened before you came to the casino are PAST SPINS.

And spins that happened after you arrived, but before you start play, are NOT "past spins"?

I'm not sure the wheel gives a shit when you arrived.

[Madi]

Jek is kidding. For him

Distant past is cosidered as past.

Recent past is not past. But we can undestand that wht he is trying to say

[falkor2k15]

No Steve, you don't read 
Again, the numbers that are falling in my playing session are not past spins, and No Steve, they are not in the future !!!!
They fall in the present!
Man, i can See why Turbo is bouncing is head against the Wall All the Time 
Past spins are spins that happend before i Walk into the casino ! Why is this so difficult to crasp for Most of you?

You are confused like I used to be! It goes like this...

You can only bet 1 spin at a time. All spins that haven't shown are in the future. Once a result comes into existence it becomes a past spin - win or lose. However, you can bet for something to happen in the next 2 spins or more:
*I predict more hits of dozen 3 over the course of 2 spins.
*I would like to bet 2 different things will happen over the next 2 spins and stitch them together by only playing the 2nd spin if I win the first.
*I think something will happen in 2 spins, so I miss out the next spin and play the one after that.

That is basically the only control you have over the game, and then all spins become historical past spins.

[Steve]

Recent past is not past

Past is past, no matter how far back it is. It is not a debatable thing. It's black and white.

[The General]

Lets assume u both r playing in steves kitchen in a challange of 5 days play(8hr a day)

General win  $9000(3 times)
Turbo  win $3000

Does it prove that  turbos system doesnt work? He is also winning.

The challange would be turbo will lose  at house or more and u ll be at plus.

This 2 time 3 times doesnt make sense.( ofcourse 1 is smaller than 3 times)

Miyao

I doubt that Turbo could win dirt in the challenge.
Not to mention he wouldn't show up for it in a million years.  Neither would anyone else that believes in the system.   

[MoneyT101]

Both are following a fixed template based on repeats and uniques - and will result in stable stats - but both will still break even.

The fixed Template is so you can know the limits.  But you still need to figure how to play within that template to gain and advantage!  I figured out how to not break even anymore and gain an edge.

That's probably how TG wins playing multiple repeats. So it's not the hot numbers that would be winning per se. It's supposedly about playing inside a non-random framework and perhaps dodging the variance within a stable session, or so the theory goes.

TG plays hot numbers based on the distance between hits!

The reason why Steve and anyone else doesn’t get it is because you keep separating the spin!

Once you take the first spin.  Every other spin after that is dependent to this result!  Yes DEPENDENT!!!

10,23,17

TG came in on the third spin which is 17

That is spin 1!!!
From spin 1 which is 17 to the next 37 spins is a session!


EVERY NUMBER THAT COMES OUT WITHIN THIS IS DEPENDENT TO EACH OTHER WITHIN THIS REALM OF 37 SPINS

This might be hard to comprehend and to learn for you spin by spin experts.

Again I know each spin is independent, but I’m not playing spin by spin and TG isn’t either

Fact - everyone claiming that they beat the game is not playing spin by spin you will lose!!!!!!

[The General]

TG plays hot numbers based on the distance between hits!

The reason why Steve and anyone else doesn’t get it is because you keep separating the spin!

Once you take the first spin.  Every other spin after that is dependent to this result!  Yes DEPENDENT!!!

Ermm nope. The same number of pockets exist at every spin, so each spin is independent.