@ turbo

[MoneyT101]

Right, so they are past spins, but within the current session or frame. In other words, those are the numbers you choose to help determine relationships when playing the next bet. Repeats or Uniques is just a label - neither are better than the other hence results in break even, but we use them to keep within the limits of stable stats.

Falkor,

Its hard to help you because you post to much detail in the forum.   So this is the best i can give you....

The overall cycles tracking breaks even so you have to play the game within.

the game within will Win/Lose/breakeven

when you're done with you're session  your bankroll rises

edit: oh wait i forgot.. there is a hedge bet involved

[falkor2k15]

Each new repeat level takes longer and longer to reach compared to the early repeats. If the 1st or 2nd repeat comes early then the 3rd repeat could take even longer to come - and there's no guarantee the leader will continue to dominate. You could stop on 1 repeat or increase to 2 or more repeats, but the problem is that if the leading hot numbers reduce in dominance then you can reach the table limits if you are still betting to try to catch the next repeat. That's with a progression, and flat-betting is just losing sessions over and over and breaking even. Even if you keep reaching the house limits you still break even in the long run. There's no way of reacting to hot and cold and escaping break even. I don't think Non-Random works like that.

[falkor2k15]

I don't think there is a sub-game - or it breaks even too. I think playing your own game is trying to come up with a template that doesn't predict anything or react to any triggers. It's about creating a break even game with fixed stats and then looking back at reducing apples and pears. Using positions, parallel streams and the like simply allows us to create different kinds of break even games/templates that we can use for post-processing.

[MoneyT101]

Each new repeat level takes longer and longer to reach compared to the early repeats. If the 1st or 2nd repeat comes early then the 3rd repeat could take even longer to come - and there's no guarantee the leader will continue to dominate. You could stop on 1 repeat or increase to 2 or more repeats, but the problem is that if the leading hot numbers reduce in dominance then you can reach the table limits if you are still betting to try to catch the next repeat. That's with a progression, and flat-betting is just losing sessions over and over and breaking even. Even if you keep reaching the house limits you still break even in the long run. There's no way of reacting to hot and cold and escaping break even. I don't think Non-Random works like that.

I don't think there is a sub-game - or it breaks even too. I think playing your own game is trying to come up with a template that doesn't predict anything or react to any triggers. It's about creating a break even game with fixed stats and then looking back at reducing apples and pears. Using positions, parallel streams and the like simply allows us to create different kinds of break even games/templates that we can use for post-processing.

There is clearly a way if i found it... 

i'll make a new thread and post something in a few days using vdw, ill use just low and high EC bet.
I wont use a parallel game. I'll do 5 sessions of 100 spins

[falkor2k15]

Well, Priyanka and Red referred to "a game within a game", but to me it seems like the reducing of apples and pears is their sub-game - really an extension of the main game. Priyanka described some other templates as games within games, but they are just single games/templates IMO:

Playing just R and B will always result in that 50% scenario. If we need to get ahead of that scenario, we need to figure of ways of staying ahead and play multiple games within a game. An example of playing multiple games here could be

1. Instead of 9 spins, take 27 spins. You could play 3 alternating games. Play 1st, 4th.....25th spins as one game, 2nd, 5th...26th spin as one game and so on.
2. One game is a straight RB game. Other could be a series and singles game on RB (single is one outcome and series is another outcome, these two we can look for AP). Play these games alternatively.

But this is just one game or a series of games!

What is a game? There a several definitions, but all agree that games have rules and goals.

Most common roulette game
After reading many posts, i conclude that the standard game definition is most common: goal is to "predict" the next number spun, or the next number characteristic spun. I think it to be common knowledge (by now) that this is a losing game proposition

Other games

1. 3 dimensional tic-tac-toe (we have 4 3x3 planes)
2. 2 dimensional tic-tac-toe, we play on a 3x3 field per field we cover 4 numbers
3. ...

Priyanka also described a game as simply observing results and finding an entry point. None of this is a game within a game - but there has been discussion about alternating a series of games.

[nottophammer]

Hi MoneyT101
Not long been up so this reply is as far as I’ve got, can skip General and Steve’s replies as they just repeat themselves, I wonder what their secret agenda is? Now have to skip Falkor as well, you say - The odds in 37 spins average are .... 24 numbers(12 repeats) and 13 numbers missing, being devil’s advocate here, is this a true fact? 

[Steve]

Notto, so now you know the secret. When are you winning your millions? Or even just winning more than you lose in mpr. Anything to show us youre more than talk.

[nottophammer]

I'm waiting for Money to reply, get somewhere with his response, someone who sees beyond 1/37

[Steve]

Notto you obviously didn't understand what i said about multiple spins.

youve got no clue but its your money

[nottophammer]

That's it Steve i do know what happens in 40 spins

[nottophammer]

off to give some blood be back soon to read more of your old baloney

[Steve]

Only baloney if your understanding is poor.

[Roulettebeater]

Constructive Discussion with notto ?

No, thank you !

[Roulettebeater]

Steve, bet $1 on your national team, they gonna win today!

[falkor2k15]

A session in Roulette is just a collection of independent bets. When we label a repeat (could be another man's unique) we are creating our own relationships between numbers, but this does not give us any accuracy of prediction. It just provides an interval on when we might change to a different kind of independent static bet. All in all will break even. I have created the most elaborate games you could imagine - even one that MoneyT suggested* - but there wasn't even a slight tilt to win or lose in the long run.



And these games were hedged/alternated!