@ turbo

[falkor2k15]

Joe, you certainly started out that way about arguments for hold/cold not standing up, but the way you ended your post gave me the impression (right or wrong) that you hadn't quite grasped it. I knew a long time ago that hot and cold doesn't work, but I couldn't go as far as to say I truly understood it then.

I'm willing to look at data which supports such a view, and I like to think I have an open mind, but I don't see anything in what you've posted which confirms such a "loophole". The problem with looking for extreme events is that if you look hard enough then you'll find them. No matter how rare it is there is always another even rarer event just over the horizon. The bell curve is asymptotic which means that there really are no limits. This doesn't mean that you'll routinely see 37 uniques in 37 spins, it just means that there is no point at which the probability changes given what's already happened. From that perspective random doesn't have limits.

There's nothing theoretical or speculative here. You take any 1 million spins and look back at them - always a win in, say, 5 spins. There's your empirical evidence and starting point for the journey I am taking that I hope will lead to a new understanding of Roulette. Maybe have a read back about what I said: the rare events are limited by the non-random framework you choose. You cannot go looking for events if you don't have the appropriate framework for tracking them etc. So this is a whole new way of playing - like tapping into free energy:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20490.0

[Tinsoldiers]

There's enough information in the summary for anyone to make a reasonable yes or no vote.

It is your post and your voting. But the above statement is your assumption. Assumptions can be dangerous.

I quite like the wording of "No" which said "for whatever reason" rather than "No, based on the summary information in the post below" and the wording of "YES" with an emphasis on "NEVER LOSES" despite Turbo telling he does have losing attacks. All this voting sounds quite one sided to me, but you can never please everyone can you? I did vote "No" though as I have a problem in believing things that i cant "touch and feel"

Thinking broadly can also be dangerous.  Even flat earthers are asking us to think broader.

[falkor2k15]

If Turbo came out and said this whole thing has been a hoax and then all his followers came out and said they were in on it too.... would you then consider the flat earth might be true?

[Tinsoldiers]

If Turbo came out and said this whole thing has been a hoax and then all his followers came out and said they were in on it too.... would you then consider the flat earth might be true?

Nice try. NO. It is like you I show you that i can screw a woman and you believing that i can screw a tiger too.

[Steve]

It is your post and your voting. But the above statement is your assumption

Summarizing turbos claims is not an assumption.

with an emphasis on "NEVER LOSES"

He said himself multiple times, he never loses. I didn't make it up. Its what HE said.

Thinking broadly can also be dangerous

Having an open mind and more information is a bad thing? Since when?

It is like you I show you that i can screw a woman and you believing that i can screw a tiger too.

You actually could, but it probably wouldn't like it. And it could be dangerous.

[TurboGenius]

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for creating the most absurd post/thread in roulette forum history with your poll.

My reply post to your insane thread is upcoming lol.
I'll try to keep it short.

[Tinsoldiers]

Summarizing turbos claims is not an assumption.

Summarising claims is not the assumption I was talking. Believing that the summary is sufficient to disprove something is wrong assumption. All the summary proves is there are contradicting information read out of context. It is like saying someone is a liar and hence he is the murderer.  No one has seen step by step instruction of what turbo does and unless that is available all claims either for or against what he says his system does is complete non sense.

It might be hard to relate to, but both of you keeps pointing back to answers you have given multiple times and no one seems to know,both of you keep responding to questions with completely unrelated answers and both of you claim to be open minded.  All is not what it looks like. 

[cht]

Tinsoldiers

I believe you know the owner person of this forum by now.

I have my reasons to call him "whatever" in my earlier post.

I got moderated as a result.

Keep going with this person.

As an older person, I gave up long ago.

[cht]

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for creating the most absurd post/thread in roulette forum history with your poll.

My reply post to your insane thread is upcoming lol.
I'll try to keep it short.

No point, it will be deleted.

[Steve]

Believing that the summary is sufficient to disprove something is wrong assumption.

No you are missing it. The poll is asking people to give their opinion based on turbos claims. Its simple.

All the summary proves is there are contradicting information read out of context.

Really? Which part? Was it the claim "I never lose", or "I quit playing MPR after losing because I wanted to keep my system private, so instead I'll play somewhere that records videos of my sessions"?

You are arguing without considering facts, probably for the sake of trying to win an argument.

No one has seen step by step instruction of what turbo does and unless that is available all claims either for or against what he says his system does is complete non sense.

Are you sure about that? And besides, he has given ample information publicly, for anyone to test the working principles he has described. It's not my problem if you dont understand it.

As an older person, I gave up long ago.

It could be the information didnt suit you.

[cht]

It could be the information didnt suit you.

It does not matter.

I am not referring to roulette.

If the reader reads your writings and still don't get it, they deserve whatever for themselves

Pls do not reply.

[Steve]

If the reader reads your writings and still don't get it, they deserve whatever for themselves

If you mean they fail to research and test basic statistics, and at least try to understand what I, and every educated statistician, mathematician and professional in the entire world is saying..... then absolutely. I agree. 

[Winner]

Have not been here for a while 205 pages of absolute nothing  congrats  Steve great forum.

[Steve]

Have not been here for a while 205 pages of absolute nothing  congrats  Steve great forum.

The members ARE the forum. Yes, some members are quite uneducated. So threads like this go in circles. Great or even just reasonable minds think alike. The entire professional community shares my views. Despite my best efforts to explain reality, with clear substantiating information, inexperienced gamblers lose billions to casinos, and hold beliefs akin to believing in fairies.

Its demoralizing, that some people are really that clueless. On the upside, at least the majority of people know better.

[Steve]

What i keep thinking is if you go to any forum, with educated and intelligent people, like a math or casino personnel forum, they would laugh people like turbo off the forum.

Its not just here, but any gambling forum, where logic, reason and understanding is missing by, not all, and not quite most, but an alarmingly large portion of members. It's actually quite sad to see.