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[TurboGenius]

Ironically, seeing as this is a Kangaroo court, take a guess 

No kidding.
Now the argument for the defense was moved out to the hallway where everyone just might miss it (unless you go back 3-4 pages in this thread).
At least it wasn't deleted I guess.. It was it's own thread, not part of this one...

sigh.
No further questions your honor - this court is rigged.

[TurboGenius]

I merged it. You can share your gift of knowledge to the world, but not litter the forum.

Such as making a thread with a poll just to find out "WHO" believes me or who doesn't.
"Me" - one member. lol That's more relevant than my reply which I was told not to do in the same thread as the poll. Never mind.

[Steve]

Turbo, your response did not address your claims. It was not a defense with counter-arguments. It was just a "hey look at me" post from someone wanting attention. The poll's post was a summary of YOUR claims.  I wasn't aware you need to defend against yourself.

If the poll showed no followers, I'd show you the door like I did to CEH. It did serve a purpose. There are still some people left believing you. Good for you 

As with most lessons, people need to learn them for themselves. I'll watch it unfold over time. Even Charles Edward Hampshire still has some followers. Those are the particularly slow learners. But clearly the majority know better.

[TurboGenius]

If the poll showed no followers, I'd show you the door like I did to CEH. It did serve a purpose. There are still some people left believing you. Good for you

That's sad.
I won't be posting. It was a "trial" against me - 13,810 characters and then the jury (forum members - YOUR members) were instructed to vote on a one-sided poll where you posted all of your "supposed'' evidence, and where anyone who voted Yes would be insulted just as they have been since they backed up what I said.
Like I said in my post (that was moved improperly) that means a few people understand, which is my goal.
Good for me - unreal.
Enjoy. - people can reach me via email, I won't reply to the nonsense anymore.
There's 10 people here that you need to work with Steve, Change their minds
if you can against the evil "me", the supposed Guru. I'm ready for "He was backed into
a corner and couldn't answer anything asked - and left the forum like a coward" posts from you and General.
I guess it is what it is. Shame you treat people this way, and I'm not speaking about myself.

[TurboGenius]

Almost forgot to log in and screen shot my PMs -

May 5th, 2016 11:27pm ?
I guess in leaving you can just give me the credit that I always keep my word.
Cheers and keep winning everyone.

[Steve]

Passionruleta, you have no idea, but thats ok.

Turbo, ok bye

[cht]

I do not participate in that poll.

Now TG has left the forum, this brings a close to this thread.

A simple request if you wish to discuss roulette do it in another thread.

Thank you.

[falkor2k15]

Aight... Guys, I shall be taking over from turbo! No baiting... As I said you can rely on me to do my best to find find this HG and bring it out into the open... This is for what turbo did to you guys.... we will get our revenge! 

Standard number cycles only made 1320 profit compared to Quadruplet cycles, which made almost TRIPLE that amount in 100K spins:




I showed you how we could kill off CL9 (0.02% chance of occurrence) with a maximum unit size bet of 395 coupled with more betting opportunities:


Number cycles counterpart is CL25 requiring a maximum of 678 unit size bet to kill it off and with fewer betting opportunities, alas:
18   1   18   -18
19   2   16   -56
20   4   8   -136
21   10   14   -346
22   25   4   -896
23   69   1   -2483
24   207   1   -7451
25   678   7   -24401

= FIRST EVER PROOF THAT WE ARE APPROACHING THE HG AND MAY EVEN END UP FLAT-BETTING AND WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is only the intro.... big tingz to come as these test runs go through a process of maturity.

[Steve]

Falkor, i find your explanations as clear as mud. It may as well be in alien. Not many people have time to make sense of what you're saying.

Please make explanations clear and simple. I would like to have a closer look to see if there's something to it. For now it looks like you're using set spins that match your hypothesis.

[Steve]

Guys, I shall be taking over from turbo!

If that means you have nothing but contradictions and bad logic, please don't. It's better you create a separate topic for your own theories. Like i told turbo at the start, i have an open mind and listen to reason, but it has to actually make sense.

[falkor2k15]

It's explained and illustrated here:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20490.0

How far are you able to follow? Which part doesn't make sense and I can go into more detail? I would like to edit out the bottom chart in the opening post because it's no longer relevant.

I'm using the first 100K spins from a set of 1 million to compare both types of cycles: traditional number cycles vs. a much more sophisticated repeats framework. Have discussed these concepts a lot over the past few days. I want this project to be entirely open-source, but since I'm not baiting like Turbo I doubt it will generate much interest.

Feel free to respond here or in the main topic.

[Joe]

I guess in leaving you can just give me the credit that I always keep my word.
Cheers and keep winning everyone.

Turbo, sorry to see you leave (sincerely). I've enjoyed reading your posts and like your creative use of analogies, even though I don't find all of them convincing. Please drop in to let us know when you've completed your book. Hey I might even buy a copy (although I assume you won't be spilling the beans entirely). All the best.

[ArmitageShanks]

I think it’s disgusting how Turbo has been hounded out of here. If he was trying to sell a system or had been telling people this is how you should play when it clearly could lead you to trouble than fair enough.
People (and some self-proclaimed professionals) may not agree with the basics but no you don’t know exactly how he plays and he has always advised to test and test again before playing for money.
What Turbo has written may lead some to better systems and then again may not. Turbo has shown that on Parx and RS he can win. No its not as easy to win week in week out and if Bago was honest he’d agree but is it proof you have a HG? Not for me. Do I believe he has one? If pushed I’d say yes. Does that make me a follower  no. I’ve followed some of his advice as I have other posters such as Mrj and Notto and many more to try and create winning playable systems.
As Turbo has said don’t take anything off a forum as gospel and test fully before using for real.
I for one think it’s a big loss not having Turbo post on here anymore whether you agreed with him or not.
Hoping for an England Belgium final, how many Spurs players would that be 

[denzie]

Its turbos words, not mine. Despite the poll being clear, there are still some really uneducated and gullible people.

And hard headed and annoying and sound like a parrot and act like a little kid and are full of.....

Oh wait thats all you Steve 

[denzie]

Steve, the only one who wants attention is you.

Bingoooooo!!!