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[The General]

What the f--- do i want that for. Just a bit of paper to track does the job.
Up to the red line +535


I folded the bets off, don't want you seeing the bets, or i'd send the method to you, but i won't waste my time, 36*1,5,25

All I can say is the above, is absurd.  It's as pointless as testing just one spin.  There are mistakes left and right, but unfortunately you're utterly oblivious to the futility and mistakes that you're making while trying to test your little system.    I feel like I'm watching cavemen.  Unfortunately everything  suggested is going right over your heads, including Turner's.   

I could check back in 10 years and you'd be no closer to finding statistical relevance than you are right now.

[RouletteGhost]

In regards to the above comment

What exactly is wrong with the test sheet?

Showing the method and what happens when it’s played with real spins? How is that absurd

I’m missing what exactly is absurd or wrong

When you play until profit and that’s it what’s a million spins matter if that’s what you’re getting at

[The General]

In regards to the above comment

What exactly is wrong with the test sheet?

Showing the method and what happens when it’s played with real spins? How is that absurd

I’m missing what exactly is absurd or wrong

When you play until profit and that’s it what’s a million spins matter if that’s what you’re getting at

Ghost,

What's the first thing that jumps right out at you when look at the testing?

[Steve]

Choose a random system and test 100 spins a few times. Probably you'll win more than you lose if progression is used.

Does it mean the system "works"?

Next try it with flat betting. You'll probably lose. Does it mean the system is best used with progression?

Now consider sometimes in 100 spins with flat bets, you'll win. What's the merit in short tests?

Anyone with reasonable experience understands what im getting at.

[RouletteGhost]

I think you just don’t care to understand what notto is doing

He has become a target for you. Like winkel was. But notto is more resilient than winkel

He took a set of spins. Then showed how his method worked with said spins

no reason to attack

Start an AP thread or move along

[Steve]

Remember dont attack the messenger. Dont even consider the messenger. Look at whats being said and why. Verify it yourself. Then maybe many people can stop the ridiculous circles, properly test, understand, then start working on methods that increase accuracy of predictions.

[The General]

People like Steve and I point out glaring problems but you guys still remained trapped.

I was genuinely trying to help you guys escape the cage.

Good Luck!

[Steve]

Then showed how his method worked with said spins

You missed the point completely.

I'll show you my method of random bets, and the spins where i totally won. And thats worth what??

[Steve]

Remember not to take it personal. We really are trying to help. Have you ever tried to talk sense into someone and they just have no clue, and instead become defensive and feel attacked? Then you wonder how they're just not seeing it? Thats what this is.

[Nimo]

People like Steve and I point out glaring problems but you guys still remained trapped.

I was genuinely trying to help you guys escape the cage.

Good Luck!

You say that you play bias wheels.  Here is what Steve said on this forum:

Overall, bias is a waste of time unless you are surrounded by many casinos with old technology and very lazy staff. Even then there are far more viable options.
Overall, bias is a waste of time unless you are surrounded by many casinos with old technology and very lazy staff. Even then there are far more viable options.

Who is trapped? 

[Steve]

Compared to what i do, yes it is a waste of time. Doesnt mean its not viable. But you would need a network of scouts and players to make it viable. And besides, caleb already said he's a vb player too.

[RouletteGhost]

Oh no

Wrong

Very wrong

I get it

I just don’t align with ya. I don’t do the million spin test thing

If he can show two years worth of charts testing 50 spins winning each one that’s all I need

Give the man a little a credit. Stop being douches.

[RouletteGhost]

Not to mention....the man works hard

He is nice enough to test his sheets for the forum

Whether you like how he plays or not....


This is good for your forum this is what it’s for. Stop being foolish.

[Nimo]

I posted it once, I'll post it again.  It's appropriate.

So Steve and Caleb decide to take someone to a casino to show them
"How its done".  Lets call this guy Bob.  They show up at the casino and Steve says we have to be covert while doing this so the casino doesn't catch on, put on these fake glasses and moustaches.  Bob says " won't the casino facial recognition software recognise us and assign numbers to our faces so they can track us with their state of the art 4K cameras and recording devices that are hooked up to servers that can keep track of exactly where we bet and what are chip counts are?" Caleb replies "that's absurd! (Thinking in his head, I'm sure glad I got me that word a day vocabulary calendar ) we will also put on these plastic white trash bags on as dinner jackets so they won't know its us. 

They arrive at the table and both Steve and Caleb start tracking the spins explaining that we watch the wheel and the diamonds show us where the ball will land, we are smarter than the Casino, they haven't figured this out yet.  Bob asks" what about the laser triangulation software the casino uses to track every single spin on every single table, articulating for any bias, defective diamond, drop zone, ball decay etc etc. Steve and Caleb yell that's bullshit, we are smarter than any casino, plus we are in disguise so they don't know we are going to take tens of dollars from them.  Bob, having read forums notices patterns that Winkel, Notto, Turbo, and others posted so he starts to play and wins.  Steve and Caleb both scream no!  We have to figure out the wheel
as they remove their shoes to count on their toes.  Bob says, but these patterns are happening in a real wheel just same as RNG.  Caleb says nonsense that's absurd!  Then he starts betting on numbers in the same area.  See
Caleb says, I know what I'm doing, its AP at work. Bob says but you are betting in the same areas that the pattern forms.  Caleb says no, its variance that causes that for those on the forum, for us its skill, besides I'm the expert at roulette on the forum.  I challenged all without any incentive and all refused.  Caleb then reaches into a bag and puts on his tiara he bought himself for being the roulette forum ruler.  Steve screams at Cakeb, no! We are supposed to be covert!  Bob laughs at the clowns waiting for hours to see the imaginary patterns they think make them win, grabs his winnings and goes to cash them in.  Steve and Caleb still arguing finally realize he is gone and say to themselves, shit, that was our ride and bankroll, how will we get home.

[Steve]

I just don’t align with ya

You dont align with us, or verifiable fact?