@ turbo

[Let Me Win]

I am a system player too and it is fun to test things.

But I'm only interested in money management for EC betting where I'm only placing myself at a 1.35% disadvantage.

Bet selection is completely irrelevant and a random choice of either red or black each spin is satisfactory.

Is there a code for making RX select a random choice each spin? If not then it's fine to use a code that forces it to always bet using a cycle of red red black black red red black black regardless of the results.

This should be the default position for starting any system discussion.

[Bigbroben]

But I'm only interested in money management for EC betting where I'm only placing myself at a 1.35% disadvantage.

What have you tried so far?

[Firefox]

Flat betting min amount on EC single zero is clearly the way to go if you are going to be placing bets without AP methods.

I sometimes do it when hanging around looking at wheels or collecting data. Im fully aware I pay 13p on a £10  bet for the privelege. But it is very low cost compared to other wagers or stuff like slots.

There is something called the Johnson series  for normal lab progression.

The line starts off (00000001) I'm not advocating it as a winning method but it's good in that it keeps the bets low, thus limiting your loss.

[Let Me Win]

I've been doing this sh!t for years. I've read probably over 100 books and ebooks.

I've played with countless stuff on RX and with Excel and I've read hours and hours of forums.

I've also played thousands of hours online and at real casinos around the world.

So I do have some experience.

I'm thinking I would like to develop an automated RX or Excel sheet for a method that combines the Star pre-progression with the Mongoose and Trioplay money management plans.

[Bigbroben]

Just did a quick reading on the three MM you just mentionned.  They all are relatively complex.  How would you mix them all together?

[Let Me Win]

Could you start a new topic please and we can discuss it there hopefully peacefully without any unnecessary disruption?

[Bigbroben]

I guess it can be done!
It was curiosity for my side, no bashing!

I was working a few months back on a hybrid of Tiers-et-tout and Reverse Labouchère.  It turns out in the end to go to house edge, but at least the strategy gave a smoother loss with still a compounding effect.

[Steve]

Progression only controls rate of win/loss, nothing else.

If you have a system that does better or lasts longer than others, it is because you vary amount wagered, and/or the tested spins happened to suit the system.

[Firefox]

I've been doing this sh!t for years. I've read probably over 100 books and ebooks.

I've played with countless stuff on RX and with Excel and I've read hours and hours of forums.

I've also played thousands of hours online and at real casinos around the world.

So I do have some experience.

So in all that experience over all those years, have you kept records and calculated your total profit or loss as a percentage of your total action?

[Firefox]

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[Let Me Win]

No, roulette is a hobby I guess and it has probably cost me loads but on the nights I've won I've paid for some very exciting hookers and have some great memories.

Mainly on my tours of casinos in Asia.

[nottophammer]

This is random.org; averages.




These spins are from G oof  F orum by an old poster on roulette forum, trellw26.



You see average to hit, up to the 19th non-hit 2 spin, up to the 25th non-hit 3 spins. Surely you can get a profit?

Now Turbo wins with #21 but not #35



So from the 1st win #34, you see R1’s keep coming, but you have to keep betting the 1 hit. But why keep betting all 1hit? Here dropped all 1 hit; as what reason would you drop some of the 1hit. So by just betting R1’s @ unit of 5, eventually a win happens, but still no profit.
Again drop all R1 and bet all R2’s, and we see #21 hits again, giving profit.
So we need a yardstick on gaps and repeats, over to you Mako and Big Bro Ben.

[nottophammer]

Here from G oof F orum 76 spin by member Jacob Blaze.
Another good set.





So going forward; how many actual #’s get hot? Do we use cycles or X number of spins like here 76.
Here we see we’re betting on 5; 1hit’s. If you make a decision to use only 4 numbers per group, on the 1hit’s we drop the furthest back, so drop #7. But as the General would say we’re curve fitting, but you can see these spins the #7 is going to hit on spin 19. But like Turbo said drop some, but some may come back.
Now with the #7 back, you can see spin 30; #7 lands again, but will we have dropped it again as decision is too bet only 4 numbers from each group.
The 16#’s not on sheet, that #7 is still going strong.

[The General]

Notto,

I'm guessing that It takes you more time to create those charts than it does for you to play your 76 spins.

Why don't you spend more time playing so that you can post a more statistically relevant test? 

Perhaps consider posting some logic and math behind your ideas.   Proof of concept carries more weight than meaningless charts and graphs.

Best of Luck,

-The General

[nottophammer]

Just for your information; i do play, and it's on mickey mouse RNG in UK bookies. But the best of it dickhead is it plays just like your posted star burst spins. Bet you wished you never posted them now.