ROTT

[nottophammer]

Today jackpot#'s only 55 spins

[RouletteGhost]

Knock knock

Whose there

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[nottophammer]

Heres the riddle laid out. The expected trott of 5,5,5 at the top. Actual count at bottom, usual average 7,5,3. And good old countback.


From countback,with 1st 10, 9/10, countback shows LOTT would expect 23 to show at spin 37. 21st has come on time, now you have 4 spins to go for 37th spin, so if you decided to watch, what are you looking for? its average of 3 spins to hit, the ? is, whats its max to hit, of the 366 games, next 5 spins accounts for 93.71% of spins and 6 spins = 95.90%, its max is 16

heres the value of spins, 8 times 6 spins, 1 time 16 spins.



If this was on the FOBT having waited 3 spins i could bet for next 7 spins, getting me to 10 spins that has happened 1 time. Do you ignore the times it took 15,16 spins, saying its a rarity?

No doubt i'm showing the % wrong, butyou can see the spins taken to hit.

Knock knock

Whose there, answer,     no fcuker

[nottophammer]

Now all that fancy thinking shite out the way.

In the building document of 400 games, last night just flat betting, but you see only aired for 109 minuets, so only 55 spins.

But in the doc unlike Mort where we use remaining 9, here i use remaining 12. last night for no thinking +23, flat bet spins 46 to 55

[Priyanka]

Notto - One question for you.

Why wait for non hitting 9 spins and waste your precious time. I have done some tests on picking numbers 7, 14, 16, 18, 21, 23, 27, 32, 36, even last night's 55 spins aired and start betting from spin 1 itself. Flat bet and take off the number that hits going 8 numbers, 7 numbers upto 4 numbers. What do you think?

[nottophammer]

Notto - One question for you.

Why wait for non hitting 9 spins and waste your precious time. I have done some tests on picking numbers 7, 14, 16, 18, 21, 23, 27, 32, 36, even last night's 55 spins aired and start betting from spin 1 itself. Flat bet and take off the number that hits going 8 numbers, 7 numbers upto 4 numbers. What do you think?

Big respect to you, like Winkel and a couple more who post.
Well from experiance the 9 numbers you suggest are a random 9#'s, you'll comeback if that statement is wrong So what i have found is, that betting the random 9 which are not like the remaining 9 from the starting 37, has missed for 34 spins, where as the remaining 9 from the starting 37 have missed for only, 16 spins, jackpot 247.


Here on FOBT 23 spins


So why does the randomly selected 9 miss for 34 spins against only 23 on FOBT, rng.

[nottophammer]

As some brains are looking in and probably the boffins for the bookies and casino's ( programmers) should we carry on giving them free info to use against us.
the 229 is the actual games played when spins get that far, ie; longer airtime.
the 29 is the 1st of the remaining 9 meaning 28 have come.
      16 is its max
      3.9 avg to hit
total spins 1141
the sum 1141*9=10269 flat bet
               292*36=10512 return    =+234

[Priyanka]

you suggest are a random 9#'s

Depends on how you look at. But these are numbers that are spaced 3 spaces to each other from the wheel.

[nottophammer]

12,14,16,18,21,23,32,34,36
Seems bit of an old Mr J method, as go past one of the 9, another is coming along, but that  idea tanked, so 3 spaces apart ?

So do you want me to look at those spins, using this placement?

Do you remember in KTF, i had RG give his 10 #'s, then when jackpot had 10 gone, i compared those aginst the playing 37, both ways lost.

Now the wheel is what you play against, the carpet/mat is to lay your bet. Now as we have seen the cycle of 37 spins,produces 24,0x's pretty consistently, so if the 1st 10 spins of cycle 37 have no repeat,leaves 27 to come, whats to say your randomly selected #'s are those that could miss in the remaing 27 spins.

Is there a right way? just clutch 9 out the air, or wait for the remaining 9. Just that data at the moment shows waiting for the 9 is winning

[nottophammer]

[Priyanka]

Just that data at the moment shows waiting for the 9 is winning

Thanks for the explanation Mr. hammer. Understood.

[nottophammer]

your are most welcome , thanks again for the tester

[nottophammer]

This is showing what i tried yesterday, playing for a repeat in 10 spins, on bookies FOBT's. Using £100 Bank roll, using lowest unit of .20p as max bet would be at 3*.20p=.60p per #.
On this sheet is two methods.
1. Is to just watch the trot develop and using countback, decide if a bet is favourable ?
2. In red is betting upto 7#'s with 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3.
2.1  It could be played in blocks of 10 spins, stop if a repeat happens and wait out the rest of the spins, as 9/10 is more comman than 7/10,8/10, 10/10. This assumption is from ef-bet, jackpot247 and live wheel spins posted in real roulette spins. But here i played in red for a repeat, if win,just started with the repeat number, remember i'm not in the blocks of 10 spins.


As you see i'm minus 92 which is £18.40 down on starting bankroll, it's for .20p unit. At spin 32, -216 (-43.2)
Now if we forget the stupid idea of 1 repeat in 10 spins and was to have just watch the trot, even with the disastrous start, at spin 28 would be a whole £1 or .20p in profit, so watching the trot is better than betting for repeats only.
As the game is balanced at spin 28, 19 non-hit have come and as countback shows,this way is still with bankroll in a new high, (you might laugh but its still better than the repeat method).
So as balanced just watch.
Now you can see  i would have decided to bet for a repeat of the 20 1x's, why ?, the 15 non-hit that average to come in spin 11-40, usually come as 7,5,3, and you see its 3,7, we're at 10,+0, so 5 more non-hit could come, and as you see theres the 1st one, -20units, so what does WTF have you do, plus the unit,win.
But as you see betting for this 1 repeat in 10 spins is a disaster, at spin 32,-216

To be continued

[nottophammer]

So we know just watching countback helped in betting the non-hit and then for a repeat,ending with profit, unlike the 1 repeat in 10 spins.


But do you see the 4 blocks are not exactly following what ef-bet and other data show, here its 10/10, 9/10, 9/10, 10/10,  50/50 where as it usually 70/30

[nottophammer]

Little bit for Riddle of the Trot, countback spot on, whats avg for 60 spins,30.5, so close.


You'll see a yellow cell now, any one see why ?
But 60 spins done, nearly half Bankroll gone (500*.20)

So even blocks of 10 spins are not great for a repeat, but the red shows its a disaster for a repeat also in its 10 spins.