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Idea for new strategy based on sleepers/uniques

Started by falkor2k15, Jan 23, 07:09 AM 2017

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falkor2k15

I've decided to track for 3 repeats as optimum then move to remaining positions to also try to reach 3 repeats:

Format is: Positions @ 3 repeats, Spin #, Appearance #s for remaining Positions/Sections

HighL4rb3 oe3 d2 c2 q2 ds2OddE RedB5d2 c2 q2 ds2Col7d3 q2 ds2Doz9q3 ds3Quads Lines11
RedB5lh3 oe3 d2 c2 q2 ds2OddE6lh3 d3 c3 q2 ds2HighL Doz7c3 q2 ds3Col8q2 ds3Quads Lines10
OddE5lh3 rb3 d2 c3 q2 ds2RedB6lh3 d3 c3 q3 ds2HighL Doz Col7q3 ds2Quads8ds3Lines11
HighL5rb3 oe3 d2 c3 q2 ds2OddE6rb3 d3 c3 q3 ds2RedB7d3 c3 q3 ds2Doz Col Quads8ds3Lines11
OddE4lh3 rb2 d3 c2 q2 ds2HighL Doz5rb3 c3 q2 ds3RedB6c3 q2 ds3Col7q3 ds3Quads8ds3Lines14
HighL5rb3 oe3 d3 c2 q2 ds2OddE RedB7d3 c3 q3 ds2Doz Quads8c3 ds3Col Lines9
HighL5rb3 oe3 d3 c2 q2 ds2Doz7rb3 oe3 c3 q3 ds2OddE RedB Col8q3 ds2Quads12ds3Lines14
HighL Doz Lines4
HighL OddE RedB Quads5d3 c2 ds3Col9d3 ds3Doz10ds3Lines15
OddE5lh3 rb3 d2 c3 q2 ds2HighL6rb3 d3 c3 q2 ds2RedB Col7d3 q2 ds2Doz9q3 ds3Quads10ds3Lines12
OddE6lh3 rb3 d2 c2 q2 ds2HighL RedB Col8d3 q3 ds2Doz Quads10ds3Lines15
OddE5lh3 rb2 d2 c3 q2 ds1HighL6rb3 d2 c3 q2 ds2RedB Doz Col8q2 ds2Quads Lines11
OddE5lh3 rb3 d2 c2 q3 ds2HighL RedB6d3 c3 q3 ds3Col7d3 q3 ds3Doz8q3 ds3Lines9
OddE4lh2 rb3 d2 c3 q1 ds1RedB5lh3 d3 c3 q2 ds2Doz6lh3 c3 q2 ds2HighL Col7q2 ds2Quads Lines12
HighL OddE5rb3 d3 c2 q3 ds2RedB7d3 c3 q3 ds2Col8d3 q3 ds2Doz9q3 ds2Quads11ds3Lines13
RedB5lh3 oe2 d2 c2 q2 ds2HighL7oe3 d3 c2 q3 ds3OddE8d3 c3 q3 ds3Doz Col9q3 ds3Quads11ds3Lines17
HighL OddE Col5rb3 d2 q3 ds2Quads6rb3 d3 ds2RedB7d3 ds3Doz Lines8
RedB4lh3 oe2 d2 c2 q2 ds1HighL5oe3 d3 c2 q3 ds2OddE6d3 c3 q3 ds2Doz7c3 q3 ds2Col8q3 ds2Quads Lines12
HighL OddE RedB5d2 c3 q2 ds2Col6d3 q2 ds2Doz8q3 ds2Quads9ds3Lines11
HighL RedB Doz5oe3 c3 q2 ds3OddE Col6q2 ds3Lines7
Doz4lh3 rb2 oe3 c3 q3 ds3HighL OddE Col5rb3 q3 ds3RedB6q3 ds3Quads Lines9
HighL Col5rb3 oe3 d3 q3 ds2OddE RedB Doz7q3 ds3Quads Lines10
OddE4lh3 rb2 d2 c2 q2 ds1HighL RedB7d3 c3 q2 ds3Doz Lines8
OddE RedB5lh3 d3 c3 q2 ds2HighL Doz6c3 q3 ds2Col Quads8ds3Lines9
HighL OddE4rb3 d3 c2 q3 ds2RedB5d3 c3 q3 ds2Col6d3 q3 ds2Doz10q3 ds3Quads11ds3Lines13
OddE5lh3 rb3 d3 c2 q2 ds3RedB6lh3 d3 c2 q2 ds3HighL Doz7c3 q3 ds3Quads8c3 ds3Lines9
HighL Doz5rb3 oe3 c2 q3 ds2OddE Quads6rb3 c2 ds3RedB7c3 ds3Col9ds3Lines13
OddE4lh2 rb2 d3 c2 q2 ds2HighL RedB6d3 c3 q2 ds2Col8d3 q3 ds2Doz Quads9ds2Lines13
OddE5lh3 rb3 d3 c3 q2 ds2RedB Col6lh3 d3 q2 ds2HighL7d3 q2 ds2Doz9q3 ds2Quads11ds3Lines15
Col4lh3 rb2 oe2 d3 q3 ds3HighL Quads5rb3 oe3 d3 ds3OddE6rb3 d3 ds3RedB Doz7ds3Lines16
HighL5rb3 oe3 d3 c3 q3 ds2RedB6oe3 d3 c3 q3 ds2OddE Doz Quads7c3 ds3Col8ds3Lines11
HighL RedB5oe3 d3 c3 q3 ds3Doz Quads Lines6
RedB5lh3 oe3 d2 c3 q2 ds1HighL OddE Col6d3 q3 ds2Doz Quads7ds3Lines11
RedB Col4lh3 oe3 d2 q2 ds1HighL OddE5d3 q3 ds2Doz9q3 ds2Quads11ds3Lines13
HighL RedB4oe2 d3 c2 q2 ds2Doz5oe3 c3 q3 ds2OddE6c3 q3 ds2Col Quads7ds3Lines9
HighL Quads5rb3 oe3 d3 c2 ds3Doz Lines6
OddE Col5lh2 rb3 d2 q2 ds1RedB7lh3 d2 q2 ds2HighL8d3 q2 ds2Doz11q3 ds2Quads13ds3Lines19
RedB Col7lh3 oe3 d3 q2 ds3HighL OddE Doz8q3 ds3Quads12ds3Lines14
RedB4lh2 oe3 d2 c2 q2 ds1OddE5lh3 d2 c3 q2 ds2Col6lh3 d3 q2 ds2HighL Doz7q3 ds3Quads Lines9
OddE RedB6lh3 d3 c3 q2 ds2Col7lh3 d3 q2 ds2HighL Doz8q3 ds3Quads9ds3Lines16
RedB4lh2 oe3 d2 c2 q2 ds1OddE5lh3 d3 c2 q2 ds2HighL Doz7c3 q3 ds2Col Quads8ds3Lines15
OddE4lh3 rb3 d2 c2 q2 ds2HighL6rb3 d2 c3 q2 ds2RedB7d3 c3 q2 ds2Doz9c3 q3 ds3Col10q3 ds3Quads Lines11
OddE5lh3 rb3 d3 c3 q2 ds2HighL RedB6d3 c3 q3 ds2Doz7c3 q3 ds2Col8q3 ds3Quads9ds3Lines16
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

ego


Here we go F ...
If you read the first document you will see that he belive he fully understand Eriscott method - but hes assumptions is wrong as i solve the puzzel and can cover all possiblitys with wagering options from beginning to end using Eriscott method with 99% probability.

After you read this two document i can show you the solution if you want me to do so.

Cheers
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falkor2k15

Thanks for sharing these docs ego!

I can see that those PPB examples would resemble EC Triplets in Roulette reminiscent of Priyanka's Dozen Triplets, by betting only on the last element, law of the third style. Is EIRESCOTT really using the Birthday Paradox or just trying to bet PHP? What's interesting is that he only tries - based on the last element - to match a previous triplet providing there's only one possible triplet that can repeat. If there's a clash then he doesn't bet. Sounds like what we were doing with VdW that time. Also, like VdW, he looks at the LLW or LLLLW combinations - i.e. apples and pears post-processing. He seems to think that LLW is more common than LLL? Apart from that I see he uses a basic progression. Is there anything else of significance that I missed? Which part of his strategy uses the Birthday Paradox? Is it that more birthday matches is bad for us in roulette or good for us? We trying to get more bday matches or avoid them?
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

falkor2k15

My understanding of the birthday paradox is that we are trying to get 2 pigeons in one hole using PHP, so the pigeonhole represents the birthday and then we have lot's of people trying to match up to specific pigeonholes.

PPB > PP... here we bet B because PHP says there's more chance for a repeat - but there's only 1 person trying to complete the match. To get more than 1 person affecting the same repeat I think we need parallel games? For example:
H...
Dozen 3...

We should bet the common numbers between High and Dozen 3 as there are 2 people attempting the same repeat within that common area.

Edit: not a good example. I think we need parallel games of 2+ unrelated events that are affecting the same area of the board.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

maestro

Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

falkor2k15

Quote from: maestro on Jan 25, 06:22 AM 2017
can read here a bit more if want to...

link:s://betterexplained.com/articles/understanding-the-birthday-paradox/#Ok_fine_humans_are_awful_Show_me_the_math
Still doesn't help us translate to roulette terms. What represents the birthday and what represents the people?

Scott
Birthday = repeat
People = number of pigeonholes with 1 appearance?

My Understanding
Birthday = repeat
People = number of parallel uniques affecting same area of board that has yet to repeat.

It's quite hard to explain what represents the people... I can't seem to express it properly.

"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

falkor2k15

Back to repeaters system... starting conditions are same as with sleepers: mostly single, double or triple EC to repeat first (or give up it's sleepers first):

OddE1665019%
RedB1619819%
HighL1224114%
OddE RedB56927%
HighL OddE44165%
HighL RedB43905%
Col40835%
HighL OddE RedB28033%
HighL Doz23873%
RedB Col16812%
Doz14132%
OddE Col13642%
HighL Doz Quads10371%
HighL Col9691%
HighL Quads9181%
OddE RedB Col8921%
HighL OddE Doz8861%
HighL RedB Doz8001%
HighL OddE RedB Doz7941%
HighL OddE RedB Col7061%
HighL RedB Col6481%
HighL OddE Col5581%
HighL Doz Quads Lines5331%
RedB Doz5141%
OddE Doz4651%
HighL OddE RedB Doz Quads3680%
HighL OddE RedB Quads2720%
HighL Doz Col2340%
HighL OddE Doz Quads2320%
HighL RedB Doz Quads2320%
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col2120%
HighL Doz Lines1990%
HighL OddE RedB Doz Quads Lines1950%
HighL OddE Quads1560%
OddE RedB Doz1520%
HighL RedB Doz Col1500%
HighL RedB Quads1490%
Doz Col1070%
HighL OddE Doz Col1060%
HighL Doz Col Quads960%
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads830%
HighL Col Quads820%
HighL OddE Doz Lines780%
HighL RedB Doz Quads Lines670%
HighL OddE Doz Quads Lines670%
HighL RedB Doz Lines660%
RedB Doz Col660%
OddE Doz Col640%
HighL OddE RedB Col Quads560%
HighL Doz Col Quads Lines420%
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads Lines410%
HighL OddE RedB Doz Lines400%
HighL RedB Doz Col Quads390%
HighL OddE Doz Col Quads380%
HighL RedB Doz Col Lines190%
HighL RedB Doz Col Quads Lines170%
HighL RedB Col Quads160%
OddE RedB Doz Col140%
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Lines130%
HighL OddE Col Quads120%
HighL OddE Doz Col Quads Lines110%
HighL Doz Col Lines70%
HighL OddE Doz Col Lines50%
86841

The above was the first to get to 3 repeats (4 appearances), including simultaneous sections to get there at the same time.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

falkor2k15

Interesting stats here... these first events all took the longest to get to their second event:

Even 1SpinApperancesEvent 2Spin
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads6ds3Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads6ds3Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads9ds2Lines15
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds2Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz11c3 q3 ds3Col14
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads8ds3Lines15
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col7q2 ds2Quads Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Col9d3 q3 ds2Doz13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads6ds3Lines16
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col5q2 ds2Quads13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col7q2 ds2Quads13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds2Lines15
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col8q2 ds2Quads Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds2Lines15
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds2Lines14
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds2Lines14
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads8ds2Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads6ds2Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads6ds3Lines15
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds3Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds2Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds2Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds3Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds2Lines17
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col6q3 ds2Quads13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col6q2 ds2Quads13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads6ds3Lines14
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col8q3 ds2Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col5q3 ds3Quads13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds2Lines15
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col7q3 ds3Quads13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col8q3 ds3Quads13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds2Lines16
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads5ds3Lines14
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads7ds3Lines13
HighL OddE RedB Doz Col Quads5ds3Lines15

So the less simultaneous repeats in the first event means that the next event will come quicker.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

falkor2k15

"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

falkor2k15

Left = events that took the longest; Right = a small sample of the quickest events.

Event ASpinAppearancesEvent BSpinDistanceEvent ASpinAppearancesEvent BSpinDistance
HighL OddE Doz Col Quads6ds3Lines2115HighL4rb3 oe3 d2 c2 q2 ds2OddE RedB51
HighL OddE RedB Doz Quads5ds3Lines1813RedB5lh3 oe3 d2 c2 q2 ds2OddE61
RedB Quads7ds3Lines2013OddE5lh3 rb3 d2 c3 q2 ds2RedB61
OddE RedB Col8ds3Lines2012OddE4lh3 rb2 d3 c2 q2 ds2HighL Doz51
OddE RedB Col7ds3Lines1912OddE5lh3 rb3 d2 c3 q2 ds2HighL61
HighL RedB Doz Quads6ds3Lines1812OddE5lh3 rb2 d2 c3 q2 ds1HighL61
HighL OddE RedB Doz Quads6ds3Lines1812OddE5lh3 rb3 d2 c2 q3 ds2HighL RedB61
Doz Quads7ds3Lines1912OddE4lh2 rb3 d2 c3 q1 ds1RedB51
OddE RedB Col Quads7ds3Lines1912RedB4lh3 oe2 d2 c2 q2 ds1HighL51
OddE RedB Col5ds3Lines1712HighL OddE RedB5d2 c3 q2 ds2Col61
Col8ds3Lines2012HighL RedB Doz5oe3 c3 q2 ds3OddE Col61
OddE Doz Col Quads6ds3Lines1812Doz4lh3 rb2 oe3 c3 q3 ds3HighL OddE Col51
Quads7ds3Lines1912OddE RedB5lh3 d3 c3 q2 ds2HighL Doz61
OddE RedB Doz Quads7ds3Lines1912HighL OddE4rb3 d3 c2 q3 ds2RedB51
OddE10ds3Lines2212OddE5lh3 rb3 d3 c2 q2 ds3RedB61
HighL OddE Doz Quads7ds3Lines1912OddE5lh3 rb3 d3 c3 q2 ds2RedB Col61
Col8ds3Lines2012Col4lh3 rb2 oe2 d3 q3 ds3HighL Quads51
Doz Col Quads7ds3Lines1912HighL5rb3 oe3 d3 c3 q3 ds2RedB61
Doz Col Quads7ds3Lines1912HighL RedB5oe3 d3 c3 q3 ds3Doz Quads Lines61
RedB Doz Col Quads7ds3Lines1912RedB Col4lh3 oe3 d2 q2 ds1HighL OddE51
Quads7ds3Lines1912HighL RedB4oe2 d3 c2 q2 ds2Doz51
OddE Quads7ds3Lines1912RedB Col7lh3 oe3 d3 q2 ds3HighL OddE Doz81
OddE RedB Doz Quads7ds3Lines1912RedB4lh2 oe3 d2 c2 q2 ds1OddE51
Quads7ds3Lines1912OddE RedB6lh3 d3 c3 q2 ds2Col71
Doz Quads8ds3Lines2012RedB4lh2 oe3 d2 c2 q2 ds1OddE51
Col10ds3Lines2212OddE5lh3 rb3 d3 c3 q2 ds2HighL RedB61
Col9ds3Lines2112HighL OddE5rb3 d2 c2 q3 ds2Quads61
OddE Doz Col Quads9ds3Lines2011HighL5rb3 oe3 d2 c3 q3 ds2OddE RedB61
OddE RedB Quads6ds3Lines1711HighL OddE RedB5d3 c3 q3 ds2Doz61
HighL Doz Col Quads7ds3Lines1811RedB6lh3 oe3 d3 c3 q3 ds3HighL OddE71
HighL Doz Col Quads7ds3Lines1811HighL OddE RedB Quads5d3 c2 ds3Doz61
HighL Doz Col Quads6ds3Lines1711OddE6lh3 rb3 d3 c2 q3 ds2HighL RedB Doz71
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

praline

Quote from: ego on Jan 25, 04:34 AM 2017
After you read this two document i can show you the solution if you want me to do so.

I want you to do so!
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

goldrosen

Quote from: praline on Jan 25, 10:54 AM 2017
I want you to do so!
 
Might need our clever master ego to explain on this more! Thanks in advance Guru!
 
Quote from: ego on May 31, 06:10 PM 2014
I get so good results with this method, so i been thinking to play with real money.

How to cover 24 unique outcomes with only 15 placed bets.

Lets take clustering patterns into lines of three.
Principal of 1/3.

This is 8 unique combinations/patterns.
I can cover all possibilities for each patter will not have a show once.

1. BBB
2. BPB
3. BPP
4. BBP
5. PPP
6. PBP
7. PBB
8. PPB

To be continued - i have to think how to explain this extreme method.
There is also version where you can reduce the bets even more.

- - -

Ok let me start with how i come up with the idea.
I just wanted to reduce bets.

Lets say you have four formations.

XXX
XOX
XXO
OXX

Then if i get

XXX

Then i do nothing and just wait for the next outcome

XXX
O

Now if the formation will repeat, then i will get following formation OO if not then i get a new formation

XXX
OXO

Then i have placed one bet only and wait for next outcome

XXX
OXO
X

Well now i have to wait again for one more outcome because the formation can be any of the previous two, they can start with XX or OX¨

XXX
OXO
XO

Now i will bet for a repeat of the previos formation as we have a match, that is XOX and only one bet

XXX
OXO
XOO

I miss again and have 3 uique formation with 9 trails and i have only placed two bets
Now i wait for one new outcome before next decision

XXX
OXO
XOO
X

Now i have to play XO as i have two shows of it

XXX
OXO
XOO
XX

I miss and that was the third bet, now if next bet dont win with XXX formation, then i will have 4 unique formation with 12 trails and i make a total of 4 bets

XXX
OXO
XOO
XXO

This is how i started the experiment.
Place 4 bets and cover 12 unique trails or4 unique patterns.

To be continued ...

- - -


This is about that a dice with 8 sides will repeat at least once and not show each side once with no repeat.
A dice with 6 sides has 98.5% to show each side with no repeat and is more rare with 8 sides.
And it also capture zig zag ...

Now on topic.
You could see how you could betting against 4 formation to show once each with 4 bets, as i describe above.

Now if you would do the same thing with banker and player then you have add one more bet for each sequence.
Lets say you have BBB then you would start each bet with P as you would avoid to get 4 unique patterns that begin with banker.

BBB
BPB LL
BBP LL
BPP LLL

That is a total of seven bets.
Now you dont want 4 unique patterns that begin with player, so next bet you only have to bet once to avoid that.
Then you repeat the formula all over again.

BBB
BPB LL
BBP LL
BPP LLL
PPP L
PBP LL
PPB LL
PBB LLL

15 bets cover 24 unique trails to show or prevent 8 sides to show once each, alternate.

- - -

No matter what any one say so do i get very good results.
This is from todays random org file.

6 loses once during 300 trails or 3,5 shoe ...

2 1 2
1 1 2 W
1 1 2 LW
2 1 1 W
2 2 1 LL
1 1 1 W
1 2 2 LL
2 2 2 W
1 2 1 W
1 2 2 LW
2 2 2 W
1 2 1 W
2 1 1 W
2 1 1 LW
1 1 2 W
1 1 1 LW
1 2 2 LL
1 1 1 LW
1 2 2 LL
1 1 2 LL
2 1 1 W
1 2 1 W
2 2 2 W
1 1 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 1 2 W
2 2 1 W
1 2 2 W
1 1 1 LL
2 2 2 W
2 2 1 LW
1 2 2 W
2 2 1 W
1 1 2 W
1 1 2 LW
2 2 2 W
1 2 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 2 2 W
1 2 1 LW
2 2 2 W
1 1 2 W
2 1 2 W
1 2 1 W
1 2 2 LW
2 2 2 W
2 2 2 LW
1 1 2 W
1 2 1 LL
2 2 2 W
1 1 2 W
1 2 2 LL
2 2 1 W
2 2 1 LW
2 2 2 LW
2 1 1 LL
2 1 2 LW
2 1 2 LW
2 1 1 LW
1 2 1 W
2 1 2 W
1 1 1 W
1 2 2 LL
1 2 2 LW
1 2 1 LW
2 1 2 W
1 2 1 W
2 1 1 W
1 2 2 W
1 2 2 LW
1 1 2 LL
2 2 1 W
1 1 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 1 1 W
1 1 2 LW
2 1 1 W
2 2 2 LL
2 2 1 LL
2 1 1 LLW
2 2 2 LL
2 2 1 LL
1 1 1 W
1 1 1 LW
1 1 2 LW
1 2 2 LL
2 1 1 W
2 2 2 LL
2 2 1 LL
1 2 1 W
2 1 2 W
2 1 2 LW
2 2 2 LL
1 2 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 2 1 W
2 2 2 W
2 1 2 LL
1 1 1 W
1 1 1 LW
-----------------
 
Advance and deeper into equilibrium

As you can see we play against 4 banker patterns or 4 player patterns depending on what the first pattern is.
We bet against that all 8 will have a show each and its around 1% chance that will happen or 99% that we will catch at least one repeat.

But this method also use the law of series with a underlying march.
When we play for opposite to prevent all 4 to show with banker or player patterns.

PPP
PBP
PBB
PPB

And

BBB
BPB
BPP
BBP

Does two is also a 50/50 distribution.
And we have for example 1000 singles and 500 series of two and 250 series of three and 125 series of four.

So both repeats and the law of series contribute to the high strike ratio.

Follow the betting flow

2 1 2
1 1 1 W... i see banker pattern and play it will be player pattern and i won
1 1 2 LW... i have player pattern and play it will become banker patterns and lose, then i have 111 and will bet for a repeat 11 and won.
2 1 1 W... i have a player pattern and will play it will become a banker pattern and i win
2 2 2 LL... i have a banker patterns and will play for a player pattern, i lose and will bet for a repeat 21 and lose again.
2 1 2 LL... i have two banker patterns and will bet for a player pattern to show, i lose and play that one of the two previous banker pattern will have a repeat and i lose.
1 1 2 W... i have three banker patterns and will bet for a player pattern and i win.
1 2 1 LL
2 2 2 W
2 2 1 LW
1 2 2 W
1 2 1 LW
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Ultimate Explanations
 
Both eriscott and the Author for the Birstday Paradox got it wrong and i have the solution.
You need to read both documents to understand the five bet solution to cover all compinations no matter what 6 uniq combinations you got with the random flow.

Here is one example where the assumption from both is wrong.
For example lets take this string of formations

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP

Now the assumption is that if you get PP next you can not match with PPB or PPP as both alredy has hit.
But this is wrong.

If you look at the sequense again you also see that all P combinations has hit.
So even if we would get PB we could not match with PBB or PBP as both alredy hit.

Here is the sequense again.

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP

Now you bet Before you have a result and you bet P once with one single bet and you cover all previos four patterns to have a chance to repeat once, no matter if you get PP or PB.

PPB PPP PBP  PBB BPP BBP P

Easy and it takes a total of five bets to cover all possibilitys from this position.
Assume you got a B result, then you can see above that we have BPP and BBP.
This means that if you get BP next you would bet P and if you got BB you would bet P next.

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BP
PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BB

But lest say you have a new situtaion similiar towards the PPB and PPP example where you can not bet both.
For example BPP and BPB where both begin with BP and you not match your next bet to cover the two possibilitys.

And again the solution is similiar as the first one.
You only have to wait for one B to show and bet P next to cath the begining of the formation BP.
One single bet.

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BPB BP
PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BPB BP

This work as a cancelation march where you then force for a non repating formation to show.
So we cover both situation with one single bet each.

Now to the final stage where you have seven formation and only one missing pattern to complete the hole cycle to alternate with no present repeats.

For example with following sequense:

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BBB
PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BPB

Then you have to bet up to Three times to cover all possibilitys.
Total five bets with the othe two bets.

And again we are using the cancelation term.
As all four formations with P patterns has a show, then the only way to cover all possibilitys to Catch one repat among the them is to bet P once.
If a loss you force the beginning of the last B pattern to show, which is missing or will repeat.

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BBB P
PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BPB B

Now assume we don't get a repeat of the previos P patterns and we get a B result.
Then we again face a situation where we have to patterns that begin with the same formation and end with two differen results, BPP BPB.
So our next bet after B show is for P once to cover the BP formation and cover both patterns BPP BPB to repeat once.

Now to the last final cancelation bet and we have lost four bets with no present repeat.

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BBB BB

Here you simply bet for BBB to repat once and if not then you have 8 uniq patterns show with no present repeat.

This might not improve the original or change any thing, but i just want to show have you cover all possibilitys to repeat once with placing a total of five bets.
As the autors of both Writings argue you can not cover a situation where two similiar patterns has a show, which is wrong.

Cheers
Ego

PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BBB BBB
PPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP BBB BBP


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I think ego might be onto something... this makes more sense reading from here...
QuotePPB PPP PBP PBB BPP BBP

Now you bet Before you have a result and you bet P once with one single bet and you cover all previos four patterns to have a chance to repeat once, no matter if you get PP or PB.

PPB PPP PBP  PBB BPP BBP P

Easy and it takes a total of five bets to cover all possibilitys from this position.
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Quote from: goldrosen on Jan 25, 12:32 PM 2017
 
Might need our clever master ego to explain on this more! Thanks in advance Guru!
 
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